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    its a vw 012, its out of a 2000 passat
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    I sick at updates but, I just finished the new rear suspension, and got the expensive new clutch in, I'm ready to test this thing out
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    Let's see how you go bending them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyg View Post
    Let's see how you go bending them.
    Funny you should say that, I bent both of them and a front haha, i was very hard on it yesterday treating it like a rock bouncer. I am very impressed with this thing i just need to figure out how to not bend control arms. Im open to ideas




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    The rear is easier then the front........the arm is twisting because of the lower shock mount location......the best solution is to move the lower shock mount location to as close to the arm/hub joint as possible.......because of the drive shafts the only place for the mount is on the upper arm or better yet the mount could be part of the hub with the shock mount being directly above the a-arm mount........the front needs to have the lower arm built as a “truss” with an upper and lower member that will better withstand the bending forces....ideally the upper and lower should be “bent” as in my added picture so that both members carry the same or close to the same load. You could then incorporate the lower shock mount “inside” the arm instead of hanging below the arm.

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    Looking closer at your pictures of your hub you are not going to be able to mount the shock to the hub without changing your suspension geometry ......it will have to be mounted to the upper arm.....which is ok but the mount needs to encapsulate the bung that the upper hiem joint screws into because the bending forces will be largest there.
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    Yeah that's why i was thinking for the front. I really wanted to avoid moving the coil in the rear but it does appear that might be my only option

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    I got all 3 arms straightened out yesterday and got to looking at the front and the only way to truss them is to run the second tube under the arm, so I'll lose some clearance but oh well I guess. Any specific way I should go about doing the truss or important bracing, any pics of successful arms to get ideas from would be great. as for the rear I am going to move the coils to the upper arm at the Heim, this means I'll be adding a shock hoop for upper mounting, tire and intercooler clearances are very tight so hopefully I can get it. I'll try to ad pics when my phone starts getting service at work
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    What diameter and wall thickness is your tubing? DOM, 4130 or ?? tubing? Almost looks like you could benefit from a rubber bump stop up front to lessen the blow of bottoming out. On the rear, I liked your design with the 2 heims on bottom to help brace that are, not sure what the forces look like with the one heim and then a radius rod to support the upright. I to am building mine with a top mount shock on the rear to center the load, but will keep the 2 upper and lower heims on the arms to help control twist. I opted to go 1.250" .120 wall DOM tube with 3/4 heims all around. Overkill, but should prevent having to re-fab everything I hope.
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    1" .120 wall DOM. The double heim was a pain to adjust. Also they do have bumpstops on the shaft already

    For the front truss should i do 2 tubes or one down the center?

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