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    Tubby the Beefcake Blackbird - Sand & Woods Buggy Build.
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    *** Edit: First three pages are pretty boring... Nothing really happens until page 4, feel free to skip ahead =) ***

    I want a buggy but I want to be able to fit on the narrow quad trails we have at our local dunes and woods.
    It also needs the power to climb steep dune hills.
    I'd really like to have a differential so tight turns on trails are possible, plus the potential to add turning/cutting brakes.
    Reverse would be a very welcome addition as well...

    NEEDS for this project:

    • Seat 2 people (min).
    • 50 inches wide (max).
    • 8 inches travel (min) to absorb bumps and whoops.
    • Power to climb big dunes.
    • Good brakes.
    • Roll cage to protect riders.
    • Nice seats and seatbelts.


    WANTS for this project:

    • Differential
    • Reverse
    • Turning brakes


    Basically I want a narrow Side by Side Buggy/Rail/Cart.... I don't want much do I??

    I already own a wrecked 1997 Honda CBR1100xx Blackbird motorcycle with a good running engine.


    I'm thinking of turning the bike engine sideways and running a drive shaft to a narrowed car axle in the rear to handle the high HP.

    I could add reverse with one of these units:

    I don't own one of these yet. They are available here: http://www.roadstercycle.com/Reverse...otorcycles.htm


    The drivetrain would look like this:


    I also already own an early 1970's Gran Cushman Golfster model GC-400 that I want to turn into something more useful.


    I could fit the bike engine in turned sideways without the reverese with the body as is:

    Wheelbase lifted with larger (25 inch) tires is about 78 inches.

    To fit the reverse gearbox, I'd need to stretch the body about 12 inches.

    Wheelbase to include a reverse gearbox would be about 90 inches.

    If I go this route, the only thing that would remain of the Golf Cart would be the body. I don't really need the body but it gives it some form, plus it would be fun to pull up to a RZR or Wildcat in a "Golf Cart" and blow them away on the flats!

    Of course I wouldn't have the long travel suspension of a full on buggy, but I could fit on trails that they can't go on, that's the tradeoff..
    Last edited by MrBracket; 11-27-2013 at 10:23 AM.
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    re: Tubby the Beefcake Blackbird - Sand & Woods Buggy Build.
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    Sounds like you have a good plan and idea of what you want. I am considering buying the reverse like photoed just so I can back up. Would be a nice addition.

    Great motor choice as well. Hope I can add to your build questions.
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    With that much HP you will need a roll bar, in fact a full roll cage and safety seats with safety harnesses. Then too you'll need 14" or so of wheel travel to keep from beating yourself silly at the speeds you,ll be capable of. IMO you should design a completely new car(make it take the golf kart body work if you can) to be able to handle that engine. That would certainly be a sleeper, no one would know until you roosted on them!!!
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    if your decide to go forward with the build , I have a brand new reverse unit like you have shown sitting on my shelf.
    bought it for a project , then the project changed,,,,so there it sits.

    I may use it on a future project, but if you are interested, $1000 shipped to your door.

    (Oh, I would also add a roll cage to your build)
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    Thanks guys!

    The images at the bottom of my first post are obviously just some photo shop renderings. If you look at the list I have at the top of the post a roll cage is definitely in the plans!

    NEEDS for this project:

    • Seat 2 people (min).
    • 50 inches wide (max).
    • 8 inches travel (min) to absorb bumps and whoops.
    • Power to climb big dunes.
    • Good brakes.
    • Roll cage to protect riders.
    • Nice seats and seatbelts.

    ProtoDie, thanks for the offer. I will keep that in mind, haven't yet decided for sure that that's how I'll do it. I will hit you up if that's the solution I go with.

    I'm a little worried that adding that reverse gearbox lengthens my wheelbase by about 12 inches.. I'd have a buggy with a 90 inch wheelbase but only be 50 inches wide. Haven't convinced myself that that's ok...
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    Save time, money,and headaches. Buy this.
    2014 RZR 800 EPS Gloss Black/Orange Madness LE SxS : Features
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbajay View Post
    Save time, money,and headaches. Buy this.
    2014 RZR 800 EPS Gloss Black/Orange Madness LE SxS : Features
    Moron Thats not what its about.... Besides that model of pissaris is just another cleaning of the parts rooms by polaris IND so they can screw a bunch of peps into wastin there $$$ on out dated shit GGGGGer
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    The question is not if its gona roll. Its when ..

    That be some kind of church cruzzer or commuter bike thingy ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbajay View Post
    Save time, money,and headaches. Buy this.
    2014 RZR 800 EPS Gloss Black/Orange Madness LE SxS : Features

    True, it would definitely save some time, maybe even some money... Has 4wd and replacement parts at a dealer.

    But I didn't build it!!! I'm not really interested in something anyone could just go out and buy....
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    Admin please get rid of that pissaris loving guy!!
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    Here's a little bit about me... I'm kinda weird! I rarely like stock things, I never leave things alone...

    Here's a bike I built a few years ago:

    It's a 2005 Honda CRF450R with atv rims and tires. I built a custom swingarm, custom triple clamps, and custom hubs to fit the wide rims.

    Here's my wheelin rig:

    It's a 1994 Geo Tracker with Dana 44 axles, ARB locking diffs, 4 link front and rear, air bag suspension, and 37" Irok tires.
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