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    First *a hello from a new member. Just found this site and really injoy all the info. I'm thinking about building a mini sandrail and was wondering what the overall cost would be. I know this is an open ended question and the total cost will change depending on the level of fab done by the owner. Parts are parts so what is needed for a complete build? Assume that I'll fab my own frame and build a-arms, trailing arms. I know there are things that I don't know I need. I just need some help building a hard parts list and a source to purchase from.



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    You might want to read through these threads. *

    Seems like 5 to 6K is the low and your imagination and money tree size is the high.

    https://www.minibuggy.net/modules.php?na ... light=cost

    https://www.minibuggy.net/modules.php?na ... 66&start=0
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    Thanks for the response. I've read that thread and it doesn't give me a breakdown on the parts. This is what I think I need.
    frame (owner to builld ?)
    a-arms (owner to build)
    spindles (build or not) *stubs $30 ea.x2=60
    tie rods (build)
    tube adapters - $13ea.x 16=208
    heim joints (size ?) 5/8-$17ea.x16=272 *3/4-$25ea.x2=50
    misalignment spacers-$18ea.x18=324 *
    gas & brake pedal - $300
    steering rack (what kind?) $250
    steering wheel-$75
    quick release-$30
    chain -$175
    sprocket (# of teeth ?) $80
    front sprocket -$30
    fuel tank -$150
    seats (gotta have two!) $500
    center drive (no knowledge of this but gotta have one) $700
    micro stubbs -$190x2=380
    930 cv"s (?) $80x4=$320
    boot flanges -$20ea.x4=80
    rear trailing arms (owner to build)
    brake rotor -$120
    brake caliper -$180
    steering rod & u-joints -$25x2=50
    axles *-$100x2=200
    radiator (use off bike?)
    shocks (big $$$'s) king shocks $2400
    seat belts-$300
    lines/fittings-$300
    headerwork-(?)
    wiring/connectors-$75
    tabs-30x4=120 (used $4 as an average)
    wheels/tires-$1200
    let's not include the motor. total cost varies too much on this item.
    Let's try to put a price to these parts an see what it truley costs. * TOTAL=$8,629
    What else do I need????????????????/


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    you need to call smitty in the for sail section if you got green right now, he could hook you up with so much shit, you wouldnt need much more....
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    You can do like I did and buy ATV front hubs/rotors/spindels/calipers for the front of your buggy. Im going to be using Polaris Predator parts on the front of the Panther im going to build. I scored all the above parts for $120 shipped. That included lines as well.

    Mike
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    atv parts need special attention when using tho, as the kp inclination matches that of a 22" tire generally and they are most rear steer, wich sux, atv part are not the best way to go but do work, i bought atv parts originally, i couldnt see a way to make them work right...
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    Check out desertkarts.com. *He seems to have really good prices and is really helpful. *

    You could always just rotate quad the spindles to make them front steer. Just run the right spindle on the left side and the left spindle on the right side. * Quad spindles scare me though. *I am building close to 1000lb mini and seeing the tiny diameter of the spindle shafts (on everyone I have seen) brought back BAD memories of snapping a spindle while doing around 90mph. *I think I had to change my underware, pants, seat, AND lysol my entire truck after that incident!!!!! *I am running vw combo spindle shafts and CNC 651 series brakes (vw wide 5). *Anyways, I would say that $5-6k is a good place to start. *Definately start looking for stuff on Ebay. *I probably couldn't afford my project if Ebay didn't exist. *I just scored 4 Fox 10"x2.0 COs with springs (not going to use them but they are good for trade) for $642 shipped. *Thats more than a $1000 savings. *I also just got an 01 F4 engine with 4k miles for $300. *Also, DESIGN and DESIGN and REDESIGN before building a single part. *If you can, invest in a good CAD program. *This will save you a ton of money by not having to redo things. *Just ask bugpac on the price of design changes. They get really expensive as well as time consuming (no offense bug just using you as an example)

    Here's what I remember from mine:

    Rack (deserkarts): $150 if I remember correctly
    brake pedal assembly w/ masters (CNC): around $250
    gas pedal: $50
    Seats (PRP): $250 a piece
    Micro stubs and 930's: *Really F'in expensive!!!
    brakes (CNC front): $650
    Spindle shafts (kartek combo spindle): *$70
    tierods: *cost of chromo tubing and a good tap
    Center carrier w/ brakes (desertkarts): $695
    Shocks (Fox 2.0 10"CO w/ resi): $295pc
    Springs (8): $50pc
    Radiator: *just use a bike one from ebay
    Heims: PM me for a price and phone #, I just picked up mine today for less than half what Kartek or McKenzies charges and they're teflon lined Chromoly
    Heim size (what I use but are overkill): *3/4 on the arms, 7/8 on the spindle, 5/8 tirods
    Laser Cutting: *PM me
    Tubing: ?
    Bender Die: *Call Baja Concepts in Fallbrook (760)723-2117
    Steering shaft and u-joints: Desertkarts

    Where in SoCal are you? *Welcome to the site!!!!! *Anything else just ask!!
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    i looked at rotating but the angle on the steer arm is way off, that was on the kfx 700 ones anyway...
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    flyerrider, Thanks for the response. I'm up in Santa Clarita. I need to really watch prices to keep to cost down. The big thing is the learning curve.Trying to figure out what to buy -vs- building it. Also I don't want a project to drag out and become a burden. Like so many of us. Family,jobs,chores, and projects are fighting for my time. I like to refer to this time before a project as "recon".
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    I put a cost to everything I could think of and came up with 7K. Still need wheels and tires $800 (?) The cost for tubing seems to be around $6 ft.x 140(?)=$840

    New Total=$8,640

    Does this seem right?



    Joey
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