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    Does anyone still draw out their plans on paper anymore? I have 0 CAD experience. I have started drawing my first mini buggy project. I was wondering if I'm the only one on here who knows nothing about CAD?
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    What's a Paper and Pen?!!!!

    BendTech is a fairly affordable program. Takes some trial and error to get it figured out and they've updated it a lot since the first version that I have.

    I know a few people that have winged there builds and just figured it out as they went along. But pre designing the geometry on paper or on computer will save you a ton of Labor and money in the long run.
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    I think cardboard, string, a measuring tape and a sharpie are used a lot more than you'd think.

    It's nice making life sized templates sometimes.

    Same with garage floors and tape...
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    Having been employed to use CAD previously, i would say three things about it:
    1) If your good at CAD, it can save a lot of time and effort.
    2) I still use paper to sketch out all my preliminary drawings. I basically just use CAD to do the details and make sure everything will fit how its meant to.
    3)If you know nothing about CAD, you are likely to make mistakes and it will take forever.

    If you use a ruler and paper well you will be just as successful as a CAD model, and probably draw it up faster.
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    I'm old school. Back in the day, I took a technical drawing class and it was all paper, pencil, ruler and compass. Simple but effective.

    Today, I keep a notebook of graph paper near my workbench and I use it to sketch or draw out what I need. The gridlines make it easy to draw-to-scale. If I need a bigger sheet, I tear out the pages, tape them together, then draw out my project. It's not as fancy as a CAD program, but it works.
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    Many great things have been achieved long before cad was around. Good as it is it is not essential. And good old fashioned pen sketching is the best way to quickly nail down a look,or idea.
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    Many of the top tier trucks and buggies that are still ripping it up in the desert and winning races were drawn by hand and cut on a bandsaw. I like CAD because it's the easy way and it's nice to pick up a pallat of parts that snap together like Legos. The best way to figure out your suspension using cardboard aided design is to make a working model. Use card stock, brads, and pins. Cut out a scaled down mockup of your tire, wheel, and spindle setup. Use brads to act as you suspension pivots at the spindle and use cardboard mockups of your arms. Use pins to act as the your inner suspension pivots (usually your lower pin location doesn't change). Then just adjust your upper arm length and upper arm inner pivot location to adjust for camber gain. Cheap (like $5), easy, and who doesn't like arts and crafts?
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    Many have mocked up their frames with PVC pipe to see if they can really get in and out and where to put controls.
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    When I was in High School in advanced Drafting, The teacher said, "Im gonna pull you from the rest of the class and put you on this Computer so you can learn this New Program called AutoCad and draw up a Solar Car."
    I was like, "This is Bullshit, Because I was already sitting next a cute Chick and who the heck is gonna ever want to draw with a computer!!! People are always gonna want to use a Pen and Paper!"
    Boy was I Dumb!!! I really should have paid more attention to learning the AutoCad rather then the Chicks!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rgvkid View Post
    When I was in High School in advanced Drafting, The teacher said, "Im gonna pull you from the rest of the class and put you on this Computer so you can learn this New Program called AutoCad and draw up a Solar Car."
    I was like, "This is Bullshit, Because I was already sitting next a cute Chick and who the heck is gonna ever want to draw with a computer!!! People are always gonna want to use a Pen and Paper!"
    Boy was I Dumb!!! I really should have paid more attention to learning the AutoCad rather then the Chicks!!!
    After all what did your "Chicks" studies really gain you? Are you an expert now?
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