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Bugpac
09-19-2007, 08:05 PM
With suspension travel, and big motor compartments, a home built is not likely to fall in the dimensions of a pilot, I nominate overall max width at ride height 70", i think there was some rules before for running the rca dome and such with that spec, and protodie based his car around them rules....As for length I think the same set of rules stated 120" overall length, bumpers and all....

So your car at ride height would have to fit in a 70x120 square.....

Anyone else have some guidelines they think are more adequate?

K-fab
09-19-2007, 08:15 PM
Basically 6' x 10' - sounds pretty reasonable. *The 120" length is overall - includes bumpers, right? *As if the car were sitting on the starting line...

Proto - what did you base your cars on?

I want to say the old stadium lite rules were a max of 65" wide - but it seems my new cars are wider than than - I'll measure tomorrow. *65" is on the narrow side for what we're wanting to do. *70" sounds pretty darn good. *http://www.yellowdogracing.com/images/thumbsup.gif

Bugpac
09-19-2007, 08:17 PM
[smilie=alright.gif] *[smilie=biggrin.gif]

hero_saku39
09-19-2007, 08:20 PM
I have something to say!




























































70x120 is not square.

sorry, I fully expect this to be deleted.

ultraman
09-19-2007, 08:21 PM
Mine would fit 6x10 now, but if i add bumpers it will be over [smilie=alright.gif]

Bugpac
09-19-2007, 08:30 PM
6x10 RECTANGLE!! [smilie=biggrin.gif]

hero_saku39
09-19-2007, 08:34 PM
Mine would fit 6x10 now, but if i add bumpers it will be over [smilie=alright.gif]

You're gonna be in front anyway remember. *You wont need bumpers.

Bugpac
09-19-2007, 08:36 PM
Guess you will have to be creative... [smilie=biggrin.gif]

ProtoDie
09-19-2007, 08:54 PM
we based ours on off road Lite rules development, we worked out for the RCA dome and other races a few years back. It was on the pilot board, and alot of people were involved.
Kinda like now, only more are involved here right now *[smilie=bow.gif]

Here are the rules,,,,,,attached


Ok I just skimmed over it, and there are some things that *would need to be changed in these old rules,,,,, but that is what we are doing

ultraman
09-19-2007, 09:07 PM
I think we could work off those rules and make some minor changes, Like wrist restraints to be acceptable, and increase the oal to 120"

K-fab
09-19-2007, 09:13 PM
I just had to run back to my shop (my buddy that works there left his keys inside - got home, realized he had to come all the way back - doh!) and I was asked about the dimensions of my cars.

#2 is sitting on its tail pointing towards the ceiling (working on installing the belly pan Dzus tabs) and I took some quick measurements:
OAL - 96" *That's from the tip of the front bumper to rear end of the chassis
OAW 66" - this is the front end - it appears to be about 2" wider than the rear end - and this is at full droop. *I'm not sure what the OAL of the front end is at ride height - I'll check on the Turn-Key car tomorrow.
Wheelbase is 65"

nutnbolt2002
10-20-2007, 12:37 PM
Is there a finalized size of tubing, an overall length and overall width for the stadium lite series?

K-fab
10-20-2007, 03:12 PM
Everyone threw in info, but nobody could agree.

So, here it is - I'll make a stand for it! *[smilie=blowkiss.gif]

1.125 x .083 for the main cage minimum. *This is more than acceptable for a vehicle this size. - I proved that with the Deztaz and my Snowflake crash - bigger, heavier and it came though just fine.


1000 lbs max weight.
Max width 70"
Max wheel base 90"
Max OAL 120"

Max engine size - 1000cc. *I don't care what type, style hp. 1000cc *We'll arrange classes accordingly.

Wheels - open to what ever is wanted to be used. *ATV, DOT. *Rims - 10" through 15".


Hows that? * *[smilie=mhihi.gif]

nutnbolt2002
10-20-2007, 04:05 PM
Can a person go to 1" on diagonals and vertical compression tubes?

hero_saku39
10-20-2007, 05:46 PM
sounds good but I think you mean 1.250 x .083

ProtoDie
10-20-2007, 08:31 PM
I agree with those specs & second the motion,,,,
The sizes fit alot of buggies already being made, and are being raced. *
Leaves plenty of room for more to get to the *track
Lets take this decision & get to work on some race buggies. [smilie=icon_bolt.gif]

K-fab
10-20-2007, 09:46 PM
Can a person go to 1" on diagonals and vertical compression tubes?
Why soytenly! *Nuck, nuck, nuck. *.75x.049 (20mmx 1.25mm) chromoly, .063 (1.6mm) mild for triangulation will be allowed too.


sounds good but I think you mean 1.250 x .083
I was quite specific in saying 1-1/8" (30mm) tubing. *There are cars out there that would do just fine in tech that are inch-and-un-eight. *This sort of plays catch all with the Pilots too.

Obviously I believe that 1.250 (32mm) would be better, but 1.125" will suffice in a car under 1000 lbs. (454kg) - I'm trying Rorty! *[smilie=ashamed.gif]

The farther I get into the Gen IV car that I'm doing the engine transplant in the more I'm amazed at some of the particulars of the car. *Cross bracing is all .75 x .049 and can be a tad tricky to weld to with too much heat. *Huh? *Burn through? *WTF? * *[smilie=shocker.gif] *Wow, that's thin.

I know why the whole thing's been TIG welded now. *MIG tends to make nice little holes in the tubes. *[smilie=banghead.gif] *I need to step down on wire size so I can turn the heat down and not have to worry about burning through so easily. (but that doesn't mean I will - just need to practice more TIG!)

A lot of the car's main structure is 1.25 x .063. *

It's all chromoly and very well braced. *I'd not be afraid of a tumble in the thing.

DesertDrifter
10-20-2007, 10:00 PM
I really like the way this is going. We will be delving in this style mini real soon, we already have enough parts for one single seater, and plans are to keep the momentum up and do a fleet, we're going to [smilie=biggrin.gif] *start the baja stadium lite division!

hero_saku39
10-21-2007, 12:41 AM
My bad..........just thought you meant 1-1/4.

JDAWG
04-03-2008, 06:47 PM
Hey guys,I know I'm new here but I have a super lite that was raced in the Mickey Thompson series by Casey Mears and he overall length i 127". I realy want to race it if a series takes off so can we think about adding about even inches to the length requiement? Thanks JDAWG

Bugpac
04-03-2008, 06:49 PM
I think your car would be granfathered in... [smilie=biggrin.gif] *as long as its not a new build, it seems like the rules will be somewhat fleaxable...Casey mears eh, got any photos?

nutz4sand
04-03-2008, 07:04 PM
Is only two wheel drive allowed? Just something I have not seen mentioned.

Also did anyone figure out the maximum engine size yet? Bill

K-fab
04-03-2008, 07:22 PM
I don't really care how big, small, displacement - any of that.

First we have to get the cars together! *Then we'll work on rules.

Pretty much anything from here back would be grandfathered in.

Just get them together first...

Planned on working on the track today. *Of course it decided to rain. * [smilie=banghead.gif] I hope I get a chance to go out tomorrow.

JDAWG
04-03-2008, 07:33 PM
Thanks guys I'll post some pics soon.
k-fab where did you get your phazer motors? Ive called some salvage yards and no luck. Also do you have a parts list to make the set up work? Thanks jdawg

K-fab
04-03-2008, 08:06 PM
Contact Opsled on this site. *He's my engine supplier.

JDAWG
04-04-2008, 07:11 AM
Thanks K-fab

TutTech
01-12-2009, 09:34 PM
Has anyone wrote down the official rules?
I would like to know officialy can I build a car to these specs and race it?

You guys have been running at the track right? So did anything change?
I was just curious as I have wanted to do some of my style cars with the little beams
and longer arms etc. into stadium style cars and show they can hang... or will they?? :confused::D

No one has posted in here in awhile so I hope everything is still good?
I am setting up my car based off these rules

1.125 x .083 for the main cage minimum. *This is more than acceptable for a vehicle this size. - I proved that with the Deztaz and my Snowflake crash - bigger, heavier and it came though just fine.
1000 lbs max weight.
Max width 70"
Max wheel base 90"
Max OAL 120"
Max engine size - 1000cc. *I don't care what type, style hp. 1000cc *We'll arrange classes accordingly.
Wheels - open to what ever is wanted to be used. *ATV, DOT. *Rims - 10" through 15".



Thanks.
:)

gixxersixr
01-27-2009, 02:08 PM
Has there been anymore talk about this class I am building a minibuggy right now and seems like racing in the lite class would be fun and I can make it fit the rules pretty easy right now. Just curious....

Buggy Specs:Based off of Desertkart plans with some of my own ideas mixed in.
Engine: 03 ZX-9 approx. 150hp.

Thanks for your help...Justin