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flyerrider
01-18-2016, 02:26 PM
So I'm a massive hypocrite apparently. I've had a dilemma for quite a while. I needed a vehicle that met a wide range of requirements. I needed something that had a minimum of 3 seats for trips that require we tow our trailer to, fits in our toy hauler, CVT (watching my wife try to drive a manual trans is like watching Stevie Wonder paint), easy to maintain/prep, dealer support, warranty, solid bolt on aftermarket suppliers (tired of making/building shit), and stone cold reliable. I thought long and hard on what to build or buy. What a RZR costs buys a lot these days in the one off vehicle world since the UTV market has crushed resale value on almost everything other than race cars. At first I was thinking of building or buying a badass Bronco. Well, how do I transport it? Obviously a flatbed trailer. If I'm towing a flatbed trailer, where do we sleep? Going from the convenience, comfort, and accouterments of a Toy Hauler to a tent is NOT going to fly with the family. Sell the hauler and buy a motorhome? a 10K towing capacity is going to put me in Diesel Class A territory. Way too much money. So a Bronco was out. Maybe a smaller 4 seat buggy. I'll need a bigger hauler, I'll need to step up to a diesel truck, and I REALLY don't want to deal with the prep and cost. We've had bad preps run over 20K on the two big 4 seaters I've been involved with. Dammit, the RZR is making too much sense. It fits all of these requirements. But they're almost 30K out the door and the used market is pretty shallow and almost as much as dealer prices. Then it hits me, my neighbor owns the largest Powersports dealership in Orange County. Now the damn RZR is making even more sense. So, I foolishly decide to call my neighbor to get me a price. He calls me back, gives me the price (many many thousands of dollars cheaper than what I was thinking), and I tell him to tag me on one. Here we go. So I start to recycle toys with the goal being to not touch the bank account with this purchase. Single Seater goes up for sale. My good friend buys it (super stoked on that since it will be staying in the "family"). Post my Biplane airframe for sale. Sold in 5 days. Post the RPM for the single seater. It sells in 10 minutes on FB. Sell a decent amount of other crap on CL. My gun safe starts to look like I deal drugs for a living. A bunch of "Evil" liberal hated guns and stacks of cash. Saturday comes around and we head over to the dealership. 30 minutes later I own a vehicle I can put on a trailer, drive out to the desert, play with, and it has a 54 month bumper to bumper warranty. Other than dirtbikes and quads, I've never had this convenience and I STILL can't believe I bought a stupid UTV.

So here she is in all her UTV glory. 2016 RZR4 XP1000 in Matte Titanium. No I didn't shell out the 5.2K for the turbo. I don't need or want anything that fast FOR THE WIFE. This is the cruiser vehicle. I will have my two seater to go fast in.

http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y428/flyerrider/RZR_zpsdpyuufnt.jpg (http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/flyerrider/media/RZR_zpsdpyuufnt.jpg.html)

The wife wouldn't let me leave it at the dealership so now my garage is packed and the prep on the single seater is at a standstill.

Other than making it safe, the goal is to leave this thing mostly stock. Plans are:

1) Cagewrx.com "Super Shorty" cage and roof. For $500 more than it would cost to make one myself it makes total sense. Chad Ragland makes a really nice product. Bolt together cages scare me and I hate the fact it is 38' tall.

2) Lower doors. Amazon to the rescue. $154 shipped for a UTVGiant lower door kit

3) Car seat mount. I want my son in his carseat still

4) 4 Point harnesses. No explanation needed

5) Spare tire and mount

6) Cooler mount

7) Seats. Not sure yet. The stock seats/seat mounts are pretty flimsy. I'd also like seat heaters

8) Windshield. Need to keep the family comfy

9) 15" wheels and BFG 30" KR2s. I'll do that once these tires are dead

10) Some sort of cheapy LED light bar

I still can't believe I bought this damn thing. I'm also fortunate in the fact that my wife hasn't done the "well why didn't you just do this instead of the two seater" thing...

Rat4020
01-18-2016, 03:57 PM
BAHAHAHA [smilie=ecstatic.gi: The Fam that plays together stays together LOL
Good lookin new golf cart ( Just kiddin man) I mean Wife Wagon

herman pahls
01-18-2016, 04:31 PM
Impressive to "yard sale" that much stuff in a few days and cash out on a big purchase.
Totally un-American to pay cash these days.
Good to hear the Lancair did not go.
Side X sides are the reason that home built sand cars are almost a thing of the past, plus they are decent rock crawlers for places like Moab, Utah.
The only negative is they roll way too easy (the cost of plastic) in comparison to a sand car in the hands of the inexperienced.
Good decision for the family

Bullnerd
01-18-2016, 04:50 PM
Sweet minivan Bro!

flyerrider
01-18-2016, 04:57 PM
Yeah everything went pretty quick. I priced everything on the low side. I had tons of low ballers but I was quick to shut them down. I was nice to some and not nice to others. The standard response was to go find something cheaper. That usually ended the low ball offers. I did sell the buggy to my friend for cheaper than listed mostly because I want to keep it close and still be involved with it. Technically I haven't paid for the RZR yet. Financing it (with 5K down) saved me almost $1100 over a cash deal (my neighbor passed on the dealer finance profit to me). I have to wait 60 days to pay it off. Fortunately I have all but 2.2K to pay it off. I'll have that once I sell my stand up ski and some fish tank stuff. Plus, the maintenance for the fleet of toys just shrunk massively. That means more free time to play with my family.

The Lancair needs to stay unfortunately. While I'm pretty tired of all the maintenance and cost, it really is a fantastic convenience and we use it a lot for work. My partner would never sell out of it either. I'm pretty much married to it.

Bull and Rat: HAHA!!! I know I know. EVERYONE we've talked to was shocked I bought one. I still am too...

Wheels
01-18-2016, 05:48 PM
Sweet ride... Congrats! And your rationale makes complete sense to me. And not that it matters, but That is my favorite color combo on those.

So... Who's next? Bull?

Bullnerd
01-18-2016, 05:57 PM
Lol! I told fly I was going to sell the Briggs to buy SxS's,......and he yelled at me!

K-fab
01-18-2016, 06:36 PM
You will enjoy it.
I've enjoyed just under 5k miles in mine and 2.8k in Robyn's. Minimal issues and as long as the person behind the wheel doesn't drive like an idiot, they're darned durable.

Get on rzrforums.com - tons of info there.

Utvinc is a good parts source.
Look at PRP seats or pm fns about seats. Heaters are an easy addition

flyerrider
01-18-2016, 08:25 PM
I actually don't mind the seats. They are pretty comfortable and I like the color scheme. From what I can tell, the bases are what causes the majority of the flex. I have a 3/16 order going out for the two seater so I'll probably draw something up to replace the plastic bases. I'm not spending $120 per seat for aluminum seat brackets. Now that the stress of getting the two seater in the dirt has evaporated, I'm cutting the roof off in the next few weeks.

Xbird
01-18-2016, 08:26 PM
put a fire ext. on your list ...for both your rides ... cheap insurance ...
otherwise congrats, that thing better not run faster than yours!

flyerrider
01-18-2016, 08:32 PM
Ha! It was already on the list. I just listed major stuff. Not a chance in hell it will be faster than my two seater unless I get into rock crawling or mud bogging. The 4wd will be nice in silt though...

K-fab
01-19-2016, 08:58 AM
You'll be impressed with where the darned things can go in low four. They're little goats.
Well... your's is a bigger goat than mine, but still, it's a goat.

darwinpayne2000
01-19-2016, 11:44 AM
When I used to go to Little Sahara Sand Dunes here in Utah a few years ago, you would see all kinds of sandrailers and a few minibuggies racing up, down and around Sand Mountain. They would be followed up the hill by their buddies on modified Raptors that screamed like @$J# as they shot up the mountain.

Today, it's nothing but Razers everywhere you look. All those guys that used to race up the mountain on their sandrailers and their quads are now squiring the kids and grandkids around the dunes in their UTV's. Oh, the humanity!! :) :)

Seriously, the UTV craze has hurt the buggy-building business, but it has also gotten more people out riding. Talk about trail closures has dropped considerably since greater numbers of people are out riding in the outdoors.

It's all good news, but . . . where are my buggy building buddies? :(

flyerrider
01-24-2016, 11:52 PM
God do I hate to admit it but this thing is pretty damn good out of the box. REALLY damn good once I upped the compression on the Walker Evans shocks by twisting the clickers. It is pretty impressive. It does everything well if not really well. The long wheelbase makes it really predictable, easy to drive, and stable. I love it, my wife loves it, and, most importantly, my son loves it. We put 99.9 miles on it this weekend without a hiccup. Everything from washes, hard pack, rocks, whoops, and a super gnarly hill that makes Jeepers cringe. 4 low and it went right up it. It blew me and my friends away how good it is. My wife logged around 25-30 miles in the drivers seat and with some coaching (at her request believe it or not), she had it flying after 5 miles or so. She still needs some help picking lines but that will come with more experience. I really do hate to admit how good this thing is. Obviously there are things the buggies do better and I certainly was missing the plushness in big rolling whoops but this golf cart can do so many things a buggy can't.

The ONE thing that absolutely sucks is the wind blast without any form of windshield or wind deflector. It was cold. Even with gloves, several layers, and my enduro jacket, it was almost unbearable past 50mph. In fact, that's the only reason my wife stopped driving it. She wanted to get in back to get some wind relief from the front seat. I'll be ordering the Cagewrx windshield when I order the cage and roof.

K-fab
01-25-2016, 08:30 AM
They're goats. Low 4x4 and they'll just go up anything as long as they have traction. I kept telling you that you'd be impressed! It was a long slow climb up an extremely rocky trail (all bowling ball size and bigger rocks) that made me switch from the RPM and two wheel drive to the XP1K drive train in the Mini-Raptor.

Windshield is great for cold, but sucks when it's warm. It causes a low pressure zone (especially if you have doors) and that in turn sucks the engine bay heat into the cabin. There are fixes, but they're more like band-aides. I've been doing all sorts of things to combat the heat.

Definitely consider a windshield that either opens or is two pieces so you can open the top half. The half windshields work quite well too, but still cause the low pressure zone.

Check this thread over on RZR Forums - Heat coming from behind the seat (http://www.rzrforums.net/rzr-xp-900/138596-heat-coming-behind-seats.html).

flyerrider
01-25-2016, 11:48 AM
Yeah the bear claws leave a bit to be desired going fast. They push really bad. I think it would turn better with the KM2s but I'm worried about loosing the climbing ability and soft terrain traction the bear claws have

I can 100% see why you switched to the XP drivetrain. I just want to see a 5 link on your raptor ;)

The front seats are pretty far from the firewall. It seams sealed up pretty well too. The Cagewrx windshield is removable so when the temps start to break 80 I'll just take it off.

Lance-W
01-25-2016, 12:45 PM
The windshield you're talking about is some kinda polycarbonate (Lexan,etc) ? The ones I've seen attract dust as a result of static REALLY badly to the point that any kinda sun glare and you can't see. Maybe someone has come up with something to eliminate that but if not be prepared to carry something with you that you can clean it without scratching it all up.

K-fab
01-25-2016, 01:07 PM
The windshield you're talking about is some kinda polycarbonate (Lexan,etc) ? The ones I've seen attract dust as a result of static REALLY badly to the point that any kinda sun glare and you can't see. Maybe someone has come up with something to eliminate that but if not be prepared to carry something with you that you can clean it without scratching it all up.It's horrible! The static is absolutely horrible and the dust makes the darned half windshields we run unusable into the sunlight.
Look into a real glass windshield - they work so much better.

flyerrider
01-25-2016, 01:08 PM
No it is DOT glass. I'm not a fan of lexan or PC windshields.

Lance-W
01-25-2016, 01:09 PM
No it is DOT glass. I'm not a fan of lexan or PC windshields.


Excellent :)