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monkeyinfantry
09-05-2013, 11:00 PM
Let the project, BEGIN! I went and picked up my SS1000 frame today :D

My buddy pumped
https://i.imgur.com/u9UccBv.jpg

Her new home for a while
https://i.imgur.com/CTq2Mqt.jpg

As you can see, I have a bit of garage organizing to do... funny how I was the one getting yelled at for cluttering the garage with my crap when I was young, and now its reverse!

More pics and updates shortly!

Duane
09-05-2013, 11:40 PM
Oh that is one strong ass frame! Looking forward to seeing this build!

Chikin
09-06-2013, 08:31 AM
Man that's got to be a great feeling to have that in your garage. I would love to have one of his buggies.

NoClue
09-06-2013, 09:21 AM
Waaay cool. Your garage looks like my garage. How many times will you bang your head on the bikes, lol.

CGOffroad
09-06-2013, 09:41 AM
Nice having a project in the garage! I am going to pick up a roller that I just ordered for a Class 3000 buggy in a couple weeks.

Stomper
09-06-2013, 09:43 AM
looks like fun. I have always loved his frames. what are you doing for engine and drive train

monkeyinfantry
09-06-2013, 11:42 AM
Waaay cool. Your garage looks like my garage. How many times will you bang your head on the bikes, lol.

Those mother fu-..... too many times. [smilie=icon_furiou:


looks like fun. I have always loved his frames. what are you doing for engine and drive train

It has a 2010(11?) Kawasaki Z1000, already mounted up with custom mounts by Protodie, and an RPM to finish it off. :)

Xbird
09-06-2013, 07:23 PM
Sweetness! That's a whole lot of metal loving getting ready to go on in there!


Those mother fu-..... too many times. [smilie=icon_furiou:




heh, i had my slalom and DH bikes hanging from the garage door track rails right between my two project cars for about 5 years. Know that feeling well! Finally put them in the basement after trying to work on the buggies right under them.

tbwcurtis
09-07-2013, 01:25 AM
Looks awesome. good luck with the build!

monkeyinfantry
09-07-2013, 02:51 AM
Finally put them in the basement after trying to work on the buggies right under them.

Ahh ha, step 1 :p

Stomper
09-07-2013, 01:20 PM
Sweetness! That's a whole lot of metal loving getting ready to go on in there!



heh, i had my slalom and DH bikes hanging from the garage door track rails right between my two project cars for about 5 years. Know that feeling well! Finally put them in the basement after trying to work on the buggies right under them.


If it already has it mounted........WHERE ARE THE PICTURES:p we love pictures.

Duane
09-07-2013, 06:18 PM
Yeah,I thought I saw some interesting stuff to the rear and was wondering the same thing!

monkeyinfantry
09-07-2013, 07:46 PM
.......WHERE ARE THE PICTURES:p we love pictures.

Wait for it....


Yeah,I thought I saw some interesting stuff to the rear and was wondering the same thing!

Some interesting stuff indeed!

Some of Jody's handy work
https://i.imgur.com/ELzhnNu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kQkEL0Q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AM1Aqsp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/F7XTQUK.jpg

Any questions? :D

Chikin
09-07-2013, 08:04 PM
Wait for it....




Any questions? :D

Yeah I have 2 questions................
Where is the video of the test drive (your not done yet??) ha ha

Oh and MOAR!!! (Pictures)
Here this should help.

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo237/Spora1337/moar.jpg

Man protodie sure has some good looking items.

monkeyinfantry
09-07-2013, 08:32 PM
Yeah I have 2 questions................
Where is the video of the test drive (your not done yet??) ha ha

Oh and MOAR!!! (Pictures)
Here this should help.

[IMG]

Man protodie sure has some good looking items.

Haha, Yes, Protodie does some beautiful work, I am very happy.

I will definitly have more picture, I'm ordering a-arms and wheel kits soon :D

monkeyinfantry
09-10-2013, 10:56 AM
My wallet has suddenly become lighter, updates soon! ( That means pictures! ;) )

daaboots
09-13-2013, 07:37 AM
Looks nice!

monkeyinfantry
09-17-2013, 09:52 AM
It's..... COMING!

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/MonkeyInfantry/PTL%20Build/shipped_zpsa1029036.jpg (http://s82.photobucket.com/user/MonkeyInfantry/media/PTL%20Build/shipped_zpsa1029036.jpg.html)
(from Jody)

Heavy metal [smilie=rockout3.gi:

I also have another package on it's way... No shipping info though :(

Soon we can all rejoice with glorious pictures! ;)

EDIT: Wont be receiving two packages, they no longer make ITP T7 Beadlocks, so I had to cancel my order.

Up north
09-17-2013, 11:01 PM
I'm jealous....

monkeyinfantry
09-19-2013, 05:10 PM
UPDATE!

Tires
https://i.imgur.com/yUNgK2V.jpg

Wheels x2
https://i.imgur.com/5uATJi2.jpg

Box full of A-Arms
https://i.imgur.com/gVdPBVf.jpg

Wheels kits
https://i.imgur.com/9ekMSrz.jpg

aaaand a bag full of heims
https://i.imgur.com/MYHmKsF.jpg

Right now I only have 3 wheels kits, last one is on it's way here from Jody. The real build will begin this weekend :D

ProtoDie
09-19-2013, 05:33 PM
looking good!
other rear wheel kit shipped yesterday so carry on with the build :D

monkeyinfantry
09-19-2013, 06:02 PM
Yep! I got the email and the tracking. Everything looks great! :)

monkeyinfantry
10-17-2013, 10:18 AM
Well it's been almost a month since my last update, so I decided to let you guys know whats going on. Been busy with college, very busy, so I get minimal time at work, which means minimal money. I've been collecting some cash for a while, so I should be purchasing steering soon. Still need to get my tires mounted on the wheels, probably going to take them to a motorsport dealership to get them mounted this weekend. Still need to buy bolts to connect the rear arms to the hubs.... College is a time eater [smilie=thumbs_down:

monkeyinfantry
01-27-2014, 10:06 AM
Little update: Purchased my next two steps (Not telling what they are ;)). Ordered them last week so they should be here sometime soon.

In the mean time I have to clean out my garage, its more full of crap than it was before. My grandfather purchased a storage container and somehow some of it ended up surrounding my buggy...

Oh yeah, and while I was busy going to school and work, I managed to do some selling and money consolidation and was able to afford something nice...
https://i.imgur.com/yjMBku6.jpg
She's a quick little sucker :cool:

B S
03-19-2014, 01:48 PM
looks like a fun project

Pstegs 101
04-12-2014, 11:43 AM
Update??

monkeyinfantry
04-12-2014, 02:15 PM
Yes yes, it is time for an update. It's been a while, school and work have got me really busy, but in three weeks its summer and I'll only be working, making the money for my toys :cool::D Heres some pics

Me and my boys have been taking some time for some trips, one worth mentioning being SnoDrift, My two friends have been going since the beginning, and this was my second year, its a riot!
https://i.imgur.com/hShozlp.jpg

Buggy wise, I havent got that far. Ill let the pics talk

This was an exciting day for me when it arrived
https://i.imgur.com/hZWCL2N.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lsMpgyU.jpg

They're... beautiful ;)
https://i.imgur.com/cw2SRcA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PPmDjHe.jpg

Both in, wrapped back up
https://i.imgur.com/g1rDlyS.jpg

From the front
https://i.imgur.com/FWUTEd7.jpg

Tires mounted on wheels, you're looking at a rear
https://i.imgur.com/gBfJ4HK.jpg

Rack is in
https://i.imgur.com/ZZnTdfO.jpg

and last but not least, not buggy related, wheels for my Fiesta
https://i.imgur.com/WeqouYS.jpg

And that's been about it lately, school ends in 3 weeks,First ill be making her a roller with a couple pieces of steel, then buying the material i need for the floor, mounting my seats, weld in the steering wheel, and it'll continue from there. Enjoy the pics and feel free to ask questions :)

Also worth noting, I'm looking to build a klx110 pit bike, so some of my buggy money might find its way into that :D

K: I just noticed my build is in XK1000, can you move me into the SS1000 please?

K-fab
04-12-2014, 02:22 PM
Done. Sorry about that.

monkeyinfantry
04-12-2014, 02:55 PM
No problemo, it happens

monkeyinfantry
05-01-2014, 04:36 PM
Going to order material to mount the seats soon. What type of aluminum should I use for the seat's brackets? I want to make something similar to Kirkey seat brackets. 6061? 1/8"?
Is A-36 Hot Rolled angle steel going to be structural enough for the actual mounts? 1/8x1-1/2?
I dont know anything about material types. :D

ProtoDie
05-01-2014, 06:15 PM
Going to order material to mount the seats soon. What type of aluminum should I use for the seat's brackets? I want to make something similar to Kirkey seat brackets. 6061? 1/8"?
Is A-36 Hot Rolled angle steel going to be structural enough for the actual mounts? 1/8x1-1/2?
I dont know anything about material types. :D


yes both should be good enough, but I would not be afraid to step up to 3/16 thick with both the aluminum and angle iron.
Especially the angle iron

monkeyinfantry
05-01-2014, 06:43 PM
Thanks Jody, you da man ;)

monkeyinfantry
08-02-2016, 05:54 PM
I'm back from the grave! The build is still alive and well, and a bit of progress has been made. I’ve been slowly, but surely, plugging away at the buggy, but real life and other projects have kept me from making more progress. Now to catch everyone up to speed.

I know this isn’t my personal blog, but I’d like show what the holdup has been. Remember that nice, brand new 2014 Fiesta ST I posted, well....
https://i.imgur.com/wDO5D6k.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/I9jOE34.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TgkhMAT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/F2CFAwI.jpg

Someone decided to T-Bone me while I was coming straight through an intersection, which spun me 360* around and into a pole with my rear end. Totaled. No one was injured; I walked away with only a scrape on my arm.
Thankfully, my insurance company is the bomb and recouped me 100%, and I picked up...
https://i.imgur.com/gqTnKzi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hHT3zrp.jpg

Around that time, my Yamaha Blaster decided to take a huge dump. I pulled it apart figuring it would be a simple top end rebuild, boy was I wrong. Grenaded piston and bent connecting rod.
https://i.imgur.com/hHT3zrp.jpg

So this ensued...
https://i.imgur.com/8qIp9Vb.jpg

Brand new 3+ mm stroke crank, Vito’s 240 big bore kit, all new bearings, Americanstar extended A-arms with Banshee hubs and brakes, tusk extended axle, just to name few mods.
https://i.imgur.com/3hjvKP7.jpg

And the past 5 months I’ve had my garage packed full of construction material because we’re having our living room and upstairs bathroom redone. Hurdle one obstacle, run into another >.<

So that’s what I've been busy doing for the past 2 years, aside from the buggy. NOW, onto the buggy.

First thing, those Corbeau seats that I planned to use. I fab'd up some steel brackets for the frame, and some aluminum brackets that would bolt to the seat and the frame brackets. When I mocked the seats in with both the brackets, my head was wayyyy too close to the rollbar, an inch maybe. I decided there's no way we can sit this high, so I ditched the aluminum brackets and decided I'd bolt the seats directly to the steel brackets on the frame. So I modified the steel brackets to give the seat a bit of tilt back so you wouldn't be sitting straight legged. Mocked the driver’s seat with the steel brackets, and it seemed to fit well and cleared everything, so I moved onto making a second set of brackets. I made the second set of brackets and dropped the passenger seat in and.... oh crap... they rub together and are smooshed against the side rails of the chassis... :\ ... So after a lot of standing, looking, and head scratching, I came to the conclusion that these seats just were not going to fit in the buggy. Oh well, not too big of a loss. So I decided no more fooling around, ordered some Kirkey seats, and plopped those in, no issues.
https://i.imgur.com/DPDa8rG.jpg

I ended up using one of the seats to make a PC racing simulator.
https://i.imgur.com/NhvOrvV.jpg

Next was cutting out the big ol' skid plate for the floor. It took me about an hour and a half, and 4 cut off wheels. I had to go to the store after I blew through my first and only 2 discs. I'm not sure if I'll cut it in half, I like it in one piece but it is very very heavy as it is, which makes it difficult to install/remove without the help of another person or a milk crate to hold up one end while bolting the other side on first. The tabs are fully drilled and welded into place. Floor = finished.
https://i.imgur.com/chrQi6m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fdgVZOg.jpg
First couple of welds turned out somewhat rough, but I got it dialed in after two or three tabs
https://i.imgur.com/RtgJl8w.jpg

Next I knocked out the rear firewall. I used the old school cardboard aided design (CAD) method to draw a template and mock, had some initial issues with getting the firewall to into place, but once I did some fine trimming it slides right in with a bit of bending. All the tabs are drilled and tacked on.
https://i.imgur.com/uwBaeYc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tlgiNwo.jpg
Not the straightest cut, but it doesn't bother me much
https://i.imgur.com/BgEinDD.jpg

Front foot wells were next, using the same method as the firewall for mock up. I had trouble getting the plates to slide into the foot wells, there are quite a few bars at a few different angles. I created a cardboard design that slid into the cavity perfectly, but when I transferred it to the aluminum it didn't seem to want to move into place at all. So after royally trashing my first attempt, I decided that cutting the plates into two pieces would alleviate some of the fitment troubles. The larger bottom section is much easier to get in and line up for fitment when the top section isn't attached and preventing the plate from sliding upwards and into place. I was able to salvage the trashed first attempt with this method too, no wasted materials! Also, now that I have the tabs all in place, I could remake them as one piece if I really wanted to, but I don’t see an advantage. At this point, the tabs for the foot wells are just tacked and drilled.
https://i.imgur.com/IdDk3Ic.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uqjLEAK.jpg

Next thing on my list was the steering. First I cut out the little tab that the heim that holds the steering shaft bolt to and bolted the heim on. Then I started on the steering stem, trying to use C clamps to hold the steering tube in place while I threw a tack weld on it, but I messed up and it shifted at some point during the process of tacking, so the steering stem ended up shifting slightly causing it to be off centered. And this is why we tack before fully welding! Ground the tacks off, and the second time around I got inspiration from another member and made a jig out of wood to hold the stem so I could use trigger clamps to hold it in place firmly. After getting the stem tacked in straight, I cut and tacked in the additional steel rod supports, then finished off by tacking the heim tab.
https://i.imgur.com/g3nQHLm.jpg
It looks a little off centered here because I was trying to scrunch back into the seat to try and get as much as I could into the photo
https://i.imgur.com/aQbQS1Y.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/efsmV9C.jpg

And last, but certainly not least, I purchased a new engine. I spent a lot of time in my garage simply staring at the Z1000 engine, trying to figure out if I wanted something more powerful. After 2 years of thinking, I pulled the trigger and bout a 2012 R1 engine, and gained roughly 50 horses. My decision was not purely based on power however.
Issues:
#1: The Z1000 has electrical/lighting issues and struggles to run its own headlight from the bike without completely draining the battery, obviously stator/charging issues. This will obviously not due, I need to run at least two headlights out of the front, and I’d like to run a light bar, which will for sure exceed the Z1000s capabilities, and I’m sure as hell not driving only during the day.
#2: The oil pan for the Z1000 is a weird shape, and completely blocked off the cavity meant to be used for the exhaust. This means I would have to cut and weld headers, which I’m not particularly comfortable doing at my skill level, headers are important.
Advantages:
#1: Roughly 50 more hp.
#2: Aftermarket parts galore (Power commander, turbo kits, etc.)
#3: Yamaha > Kawasaki, imo
#4: None of the inherent Z1000 issues
https://i.imgur.com/XamjCZx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gVaoy6M.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fOdpOAk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/h585aCN.jpg

Figured I'd hold onto the Z1000 for the time. I have a rear carrier, custom airbox, fuel pump, and wiring harness for it. I’m thinking of using it for a single seater after the SS1000. But, if anyone is interested in the setup, send me a PM and we can discuss.

I decided that I was going to use a different style shifter than what usually comes in the SS1000, so I bought a sequential shifter from latest rage meant for motorcycle powered buggies. I’m going to fab a little pedestal for it to sit up on, as it is a little short. The good news is that it accepts the same shifter knob as my Fiesta ST, which is the same as the Focus ST and Mustang! Since I’m using a different shifter I was going to not install the two vertical dash bars, and instead run one either down or slightly forward so I can create a wall so the passenger won’t be kicking the driver’s legs or hitting the throttle.
https://i.imgur.com/rwwhTh5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/krT1Tu1.jpg

Currently the chassis and engine are with Jody, I dropped them off Thursday. He’s going to mount the R1 in a new cradle, fab front mounts, look at repurposing the Z1000 fuel cell to work with the R1 fuel pump, and possibly creating a custom airbox (the R1 has a strange intake/boot system inside the stock airbox).

Right now I’m ordering the aluminum for the body panels in preparation for the return of the buggy. I also have the seatbelts, shifters, radiators, and oil cooler sitting on my shelves waiting for the buggy to return.

I also have my side and rear view mirrors, and I’m trying to decide on how I want to mount the side mirrors. I like the hoop style that trophy trucks and jeeps use:
https://i.imgur.com/r86OvEO.jpg
but I’m not sure how that will look on the PTD. I’m also considering making my own mirror mounts, but I haven’t seen many so I’m relatively uninfluenced.

Aaaaand I'm trying to sell my old mini buggy.

And that’s it, all caught up. Updates will continue when the buggy returns!

Dromas
08-03-2016, 02:55 PM
Looks good! Keep the updates coming.


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Bullnerd
08-03-2016, 04:19 PM
Welcome back Monkey.

Bummer on the fiesta, cool you weren't hurt.

Try not to crash the new one..I mean..uhh...

Buggies looking good!

plkracer
08-03-2016, 05:27 PM
Why did your insurance cover the cost? I would have had his head on a stake.

monkeyinfantry
09-11-2016, 08:36 AM
Got the buggy back
https://i.imgur.com/ozvxBbz.jpg

R1 in its new home
https://i.imgur.com/DlaIJGK.jpg

A nice box of shocks
https://i.imgur.com/2nrHBVx.jpg

New fuel cell made for the R1 fuel pump
https://i.imgur.com/5zFsPv1.jpg

I spent a few hours in the garage Friday night and got the first radiator mocked in place
https://i.imgur.com/LHgy6MS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w3TrArS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1pzmGFh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4wFhYMc.jpg

And on Saturday night I took a couple hours to mock the second radiator
https://i.imgur.com/f9CNd2d.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Zc59zRK.jpg

It was a much tighter fit than the first one, but it fit
https://i.imgur.com/0f4ibRD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lFtOYQC.jpg

Both mounted up
https://i.imgur.com/kLSBHCf.jpg

I didn't have much time left so I plopped on the airbox to see how much I need to trim for it to fit. It's pretty close, I should be able to trim it a bit and get it to fit.
https://i.imgur.com/N40GjG9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LQ90WEo.jpg

I also took a look at the oil cooler, I stood there and scratched my head for 30 minutes before I gave up. I literally have no clue how it is supposed to mount! How does this thing mount?

I'm going to mock up the seat belt tabs next, but I need more metal . What thickness do you guys suggest for harness tabs?

I was wound up with work and school so I forgot to order the aluminum for the body paneling. Ordered it last week, so it should be coming in sometime this week hopefully. I think I'm going to use dzus fasteners, does anyone know a good place to source them?

I sold my other buggy too, so I can order my RPM box now. After that I can order brakes and drive line parts.

And that's it for now :)

Beruba
09-12-2016, 03:18 AM
The oil cooler on the R1 is an heat exchanger the coolant from the radiator run through it to cool the oil.
you could replace it with a piece like this one and run trough a separate oil cooler.
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee279/bstetler_99/oilcooleradaptor.jpg

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/2-general-motorcycle-discussions/270485-2007-r1-motor-remote-oil-cooler-anybody.html

Beruba
09-12-2016, 03:24 AM
Look at my build post #154 this is what I use for oil cooler
http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/ss1000-two-seat-race-buggy/19985-protolite-ss-1000-a-16.html

monkeyinfantry
09-12-2016, 04:41 PM
The oil cooler on the R1 is an heat exchanger the coolant from the radiator run through it to cool the oil.
you could replace it with a piece like this one and run trough a separate oil cooler.

Hmmmm I see, I'll have to look into this more. Anymore info on that oil cooler? Thanks :)

monkeyinfantry
09-12-2016, 06:10 PM
So this is what I have learned so far: You need a takeoff/sandwich plate to replace the R1's stock cooler and push oil into a remote cooler. Seems using an R1 in race cars is pretty popular over in Europe.

I tried finding that adapter plate from the thread that was linked, but I couldn't find it on the company's website, maybe the dont make them anymore?

I found a few threads, these two were the most helpful:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=114151
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=127822

Linked me directly to parts that should work, I just need to go into the garage and maybe open a manual to confirm it.

This is what the setup should look like:
https://i.imgur.com/V5ufV8s.jpg

These are the parts:
Sandwich plate: https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/mocal-oil-sandwich-plate-1-2bsp-m-sp-1
https://i.imgur.com/u2bLmta.jpg
Cover plate: https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/cover-plate-m20-x-15-m-cp-m20x15
https://i.imgur.com/YYqV7D7.jpg
Union: http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/yamaha/YP-90401-20145-00.html
And the union should connect them together

Then I should be able to run connectors from the takeoff plate to my oil cooler. I'll be researching this much more before buying any parts.

Beruba
09-12-2016, 11:06 PM
Its a dual pass aluminum oil cooler just like this one.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/12-Anodized-Finned-Aluminum-Dual-Pass-Engine-Oil-Cooler-Transmission-Cooler-/331637619634?hash=item4d37247bb2:g:tFIAAOSwDNdV3Ih d&vxp=mtr

I also found this sandwich plate that might work for you.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/M20-x-1-5-Oil-Filter-Sandwich-Plate-Adapter-1-8-NPT-Oil-Cooler-Kit-Blue-/121920501668?hash=item1c630737a4:g:rU8AAOSwmmxW4jd p&vxp=mtr

Beruba
09-12-2016, 11:35 PM
This one might be better.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Universal-10-AN10-Cooler-Sandwich-Plate-Adapter-Oil-Filter-Relocation-Kit-Silver-/271660438862?hash=item3f4039554e:g:1wIAAOSwKrxUZWl E&vxp=mtr

Linden318
09-23-2016, 01:19 AM
Hey there, I am putting an R1 in my buggy as well. I am curious What size of engine bay did you built in this buggy? What is the length from the firewall, to the rear bolt on the engine? Thanks!


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monkeyinfantry
10-25-2016, 05:35 PM
Hey there, I am putting an R1 in my buggy as well. I am curious What size of engine bay did you built in this buggy? What is the length from the firewall, to the rear bolt on the engine? Thanks!
Hey Linden, sorry it took me so long to respond, I've been pretty busy recently. The rear cradle that is holding my engine is (obviously) from ProToDie, and the approximate measurements for the cradle itself is 38L x 15W x 20H.
Here is the link: http://protodie.com/Motorcycle-Engine-Cradle-for-RPM-Reverse-gear-box_p_48.html

PTD also has an engine cradle that is for a live rear axle (no reverse box) that can be found on the same site. There are a good couple of projects around here that have grafted PTD's rear axle onto a non-PTD buggy. One that comes to mind is Talon's buggies, last time I was active (which was a while ago) he was utilizing the PTD rear cradle to put an R1 engine in one of his buggies. I could not find the R1 build I am thinking of, but here is a link to one of Talon's builds, as you can see he is using a PTD rear cradle: http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/projects-progress/18554-tsv-4-a.html

However, be aware that these cradles are designed for GSXR engines, so if you plan to use it for an R1 you will have to do some customization. If you do end up going this route, I can take measurements and send them to you, but you must make sure certain things, such as the sprockets, line up correctly on multiple planes (left-right, up-down). You can always email Jody over at PTD for more information about his products, he is very knowledgeable and great to do business with.

Ok, enough of my ProToDie plug :)

Other news, I haven’t made much progress since the buggy has been back, my garage has been packed full, but recently took my Blaster back to the cottage so there is room to shuffle things around again.
Half of my body panel aluminum came in and I’m waiting on creative decisions to order the back side paneling. I’m going to start some cardboard mock-up for the hood and front end. I ordered my reverse box today, so that should be coming in a month or so.

I still need to order some metal to make seat belt tabs (I’m lazy :\). And on the topic of seat belt tabs, should I double shear mount my seat belts? It seems everywhere I search people are sticklers for double shear mounting seat belt tabs for off-roading. On the other hand, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a PTD build with double shear tabs. I have also been reading that you are supposed to mount the shoulder tab 10-15* below the top of your shoulder, and not on the ground because it can compress your spine in the event of an accident. On top of that, you’re supposed to mount the side tabs and middle tabs (for a 5 point) at certain angles as well. This picture seems to sum up my research nicely:
https://i.imgur.com/lHcK70K.jpg
Now I’m not sure if what I have been reading is for specific leagues with regulations, it certainly seems like people are speaking in general about this topic most of the time. Anyway, I just want to make sure I am mounting the harnesses correctly, I don’t want to die in a simple roll over or something because I didn’t mount them right.

Linden318
10-25-2016, 06:03 PM
Hey! Awesome, thanks a lot for that. No problem on the late response, I'm still working away at other parts. That is a great help, those dimensions will give me a good idea to base my build off of. I am going to look into the protodie carriers and talk to Jodi. Thanks again for the help!!


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monkeyinfantry
10-25-2016, 06:37 PM
No problemo! I know from my own experiences that a lot of things can only be answered clearly with a direct response, which is why I am a member of multiple forums :)

monkeyinfantry
11-08-2016, 06:04 PM
Decided to take a look at the seat belts the other night. I laid them through the seat, and took a look at where the tab was sitting, and his is where I'm stuck now
https://i.imgur.com/9PdId34.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pRAVO3R.jpg

The tab is no where near the bar behind my seat, it's just floating out in space. So now I'm thinking of welding a 180* bent tube behind the seat and attaching my tabs to mount the shoulder harness on the tube. This seems like the only logical solution. More bumpy roads ahead.

Bullnerd
11-08-2016, 07:27 PM
There are belts that mount by wrapping around the tube, that's what is in the briggs built cars.

K-fab
11-08-2016, 09:19 PM
Route the belt around the cross tube just like you would through the tab.

step by step would be
start with at least 8" of belt
belt up through the one opening in the metal buckle
belt back down through the other opening
belt under, around then over top of bar
belt up through the buckle then down through the other hole
loop belt back up over buckle and down through the opening closest to the bar.

monkeyinfantry
11-09-2016, 05:29 AM
There are belts that mount by wrapping around the tube, that's what is in the briggs built cars.

Indeed they do exist, but that is not what I got from Jody


Route the belt around the cross tube just like you would through the tab.

step by step would be
start with at least 8" of belt
belt up through the one opening in the metal buckle
belt back down through the other opening
belt under, around then over top of bar
belt up through the buckle then down through the other hole
loop belt back up over buckle and down through the opening closest to the bar.

Uhhh I didn't wrap the buckle, the buckle is sewn into the harness, and the harness is one piece, one side in, one side out. Look at the pictures. They cant be wrapped.

I'd rather not waste money with new harnesses, these were the ones sent to me so i'll make them work

CARLRIDDLE
11-09-2016, 11:07 AM
The V in the harness fabric looks sewn. Aslong as tab is mounted where the harness pulls on it straight and not twist you'd be fine. I was thinking laying tab almost on that tube flat but the sewn part may be stretched too much where it goes thru seats? Or another cross tube a tad lower, maybe with a little bend on ea end to get mount in better location. Just not much lower than shoulder holes in seat.

monkeyinfantry
11-09-2016, 08:50 PM
The V in the harness fabric looks sewn. Aslong as tab is mounted where the harness pulls on it straight and not twist you'd be fine. I was thinking laying tab almost on that tube flat but the sewn part may be stretched too much where it goes thru seats? Or another cross tube a tad lower, maybe with a little bend on ea end to get mount in better location. Just not much lower than shoulder holes in seat.

Correct, its sewn. The belts in the picture are hanging down as far as possible in the front, its dangling from the sewn cross section, AKA the tab is as close to the tube behind my head as it can get, which is why I said its floating out in space. I see that other builders have welded their harness mount tab directly to the rear bar, but mine is inches away and there's no way I can fudge the tab that long, it will rip off for sure in a crash. I'm not really sure why my harnesses seem so long, or maybe I mounted my seats further back than most people? Either way, I cant just mount a tab to the rear bar, I think the hoop is still the most safe idea.

I've been looking into buying the plans for the Gottrike tube bender so I can finally bend some tubing, this issue is pushing more towards building it.

K-fab
11-10-2016, 01:23 PM
AH! I didn't see that it was sewn together. So disregard...

Xbird
11-12-2016, 04:48 AM
had the same harness type at one point, similar issue in that the mount was too close, no thru holes in the seat and it stretched the sewn V to go around the head/shoulder portion of the seat.
Solution is pretty simple.
Mount your tab on the underside of the tube (1/8th or 3/16 formed in a 90 channel,) then wrap that end of the harness 1 or more times over the top of then around the tube. that will shorten the harness and put the "load" on the harness in the same manner as a tube wrap style and keep the stress point on the tube with the added benefit of the harness tab and mount tab. keep the mounting tab narrow enough that the wrapped straps don't chafe against it.

K-fab
11-12-2016, 01:33 PM
Hey Monkey, did you see my pm to you?

monkeyinfantry
11-12-2016, 03:21 PM
had the same harness type at one point, similar issue in that the mount was too close, no thru holes in the seat and it stretched the sewn V to go around the head/shoulder portion of the seat.
Solution is pretty simple.
Mount your tab on the underside of the tube (1/8th or 3/16 formed in a 90 channel,) then wrap that end of the harness 1 or more times over the top of then around the tube. that will shorten the harness and put the "load" on the harness in the same manner as a tube wrap style and keep the stress point on the tube with the added benefit of the harness tab and mount tab. keep the mounting tab narrow enough that the wrapped straps don't chafe against it.
hmmm, well that makes sense


Hey Monkey, did you see my pm to you?
Yup, just responded to it

monkeyinfantry
11-19-2016, 04:40 AM
I got a chance to get in the garage earlier this week to flex my cardboard modeling skills ;) It may take a good while to do it this way but I suck at taking measurements to this level haha

Rough start
https://i.imgur.com/hp6Y3wv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Rz3SwkP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZSVllQc.jpg

Final rough cut
https://i.imgur.com/JAHy3Qu.jpg

Tracing the new single piece
https://i.imgur.com/tYS6Jwn.jpg

All cut out and taped up for max accuracy :D
https://i.imgur.com/AE0RB0G.jpg

Fits damn nice
https://i.imgur.com/pjeYU3O.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fspoLV0.jpg


Ready to transfer the pattern to the aluminum, it got late so I decided to call it a day. I ordered Aluminum sheets based of some measurements I took and then added some for assurance, and they are juuuust too short to lay the pattern in the corners to get the most useful scraps from the cut, ah well. Told you I sucked at measurements LOL
https://i.imgur.com/h9bGYbm.jpg

And the best part of this update - harnesses. The master man K himself sent them to alleviate my harness problems. I can't thank him enough, bless this man. I need to order up some eye bolts so I can get these mounted.
https://i.imgur.com/WXnKxte.jpg

And now that I have these, anyone in the market for some new harnesses? I dont need 4 sets :)

More to come shortly, full steam ahead!

Bullnerd
11-19-2016, 11:36 AM
Lookin good.

Pretty sure that's a common sheet metal layout method.

K' is a Helluva guy isn't he!

monkeyinfantry
11-22-2016, 08:57 PM
Took some more time to work on the buggy the last few days.

I got the piece cut out that I had laid up.
https://i.imgur.com/fLxNNX3.jpg

It fits pretty nice, good enough for my satisfaction
https://i.imgur.com/ucZzylF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NtOBKpJ.jpg

Tackin in a few fastener tabs
https://i.imgur.com/pGX93xF.jpg

I used 5 fasteners to hold this panel in place, I just went with where the panel was flopping around the most to try and hold it tight.
https://i.imgur.com/IVgPwBs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FE7yZkp.jpg

The fastener buttons i'm using have a depth of .500 and they seem really really tight so I ordered a few .550 length to see if they work better. I think ultimately I'll have to order more .550 because the powder coat is going to add a bit of thickness too, and it's already a struggle to get some of them in.

Next is the panel on the other side, more to come.

TY2185
01-23-2017, 09:54 AM
Hey great build! I'm new to the forum and think this may be the direction I go on my build. Hope things are still going well for you on this project.
I would love to see one of these up close. I live in the area, let me know if you need help some weekend.

Wade

monkeyinfantry
02-28-2017, 03:45 PM
Small update on the slowest build of the century :D

I received my RPM box a while ago, still waiting to install it
https://i.imgur.com/Nz9uWRZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/z6GIPKa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YQI617D.jpg

Got the other side cut and fastened up, the steering boots clear the top of the panel, however I need to shave back the areas near the a-arm tabs because the boot rubs and I didn't notice when I made the first one
https://i.imgur.com/jLd7zlF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/p5zLIUo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vW4NRBA.jpg


Aaaaand started working on the nose, I used a piece of shop-vac tube clamped to the table to bend it, bent it in 3 places while trying to bend it more towards the front, I think it turned out pretty good for what I had to work with. Still need to tac the tabs and drill the holes.
https://i.imgur.com/bo5gYfG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0iDoRmR.jpg

Other than that I’ve been up north a few times, received my concealed pistol license, worked on my café bike (in my sig), and turned my HF band saw into a benchtop model. For now I'm focusing on the rest of the paneling, then I'll start mounting mirrors, harnesses, shifter, dash components and those sort of bits, then onto the rear of the buggy for the wiring harness. I have a good amount of parts sitting around so all I need to do is the work.

Cheers

monkeyinfantry
03-01-2017, 08:17 PM
Another small update, I'm trying to get some time each day in the garage after work and before my night class.

I made a base for my shifter, it turned out pretty good aside from me messing up the hole measurements, I was a few mm off so I had to elongate them a tad
https://i.imgur.com/z9MYaV9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vluar6n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8pORydP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/h4lfLh2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5tX4qoX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/43ix52r.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IUQLyOZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w5FwJ43.jpg

Buggy Builder
03-01-2017, 11:48 PM
The machinist I learned from told me (in no uncertain terms) "The hole is not complete until it has been deburred" Get a countersink and clean up those holes!!

Deranged
03-02-2017, 10:14 AM
Eh, I think my build is taking a little bit longer. HAA But close. Must be a Michigan thing.

Justin

monkeyinfantry
03-02-2017, 03:32 PM
The machinist I learned from told me (in no uncertain terms) "The hole is not complete until it has been deburred" Get a countersink and clean up those holes!!

Oh never even thought to use a countersink to clean them up, much easier than trying to get a tiny file in there, and I already have a few I could use, thanks for that tip



Eh, I think my build is taking a little bit longer. HAA But close. Must be a Michigan thing.

It must be the weather ;)

monkeyinfantry
03-02-2017, 07:50 PM
Another small update

Completed the front panel, I just need to trim the top of it so it contours the frame
https://i.imgur.com/UlakhAx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/59b2Hw2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/n8j4Tsj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DhPj2oU.jpg

And next I'm making the two little panels in the front, or what I like to call them: the nostril panels ;)
https://i.imgur.com/HiUbtnm.jpg

monkeyinfantry
03-05-2017, 07:35 PM
Another day, another panel

Just need to trim the top a bit
https://i.imgur.com/GsX8Pb1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KlSMdms.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WACUKTe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1dSbwwW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XNYwA6c.jpg

I asked my grandfather a while back how much he wanted for his metal lathe, well he ended up giving it me
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/MonkeyInfantry/PTL%20Build/20170305_154356_zpsw1exkqdb.jpg (http://s82.photobucket.com/user/MonkeyInfantry/media/PTL%20Build/20170305_154356_zpsw1exkqdb.jpg.html)
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/MonkeyInfantry/PTL%20Build/20170305_154404_zpsm6jfbrfp.jpg (http://s82.photobucket.com/user/MonkeyInfantry/media/PTL%20Build/20170305_154404_zpsm6jfbrfp.jpg.html)
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/MonkeyInfantry/PTL%20Build/20170305_154411_zpswvghs1jx.jpg (http://s82.photobucket.com/user/MonkeyInfantry/media/PTL%20Build/20170305_154411_zpswvghs1jx.jpg.html)
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/MonkeyInfantry/PTL%20Build/20170305_154457_zpstfwtkjfl.jpg (http://s82.photobucket.com/user/MonkeyInfantry/media/PTL%20Build/20170305_154457_zpstfwtkjfl.jpg.html)

He also gave my dad some taps and dies from my great grandfather, pretty cool old wooden boxes
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j275/MonkeyInfantry/PTL%20Build/20170305_164133_zpswmdwvd5x.jpg (http://s82.photobucket.com/user/MonkeyInfantry/media/PTL%20Build/20170305_164133_zpswmdwvd5x.jpg.html)

65chedderbob
03-05-2017, 09:30 PM
I have a tap and die set that looks very similar to that in my basement, also from my great grandfather, kinda neat haha

daaboots
03-08-2017, 01:27 PM
Nice work and congrats on the lathe!

iflytii
03-08-2017, 04:26 PM
Your "CAD" skills are paying off with the tinwork, it's looking really good!

That's awesome about the lathe and accompanying tools!

monkeyinfantry
03-15-2017, 05:19 PM
One more panel down, this one kinked a bit when I bent it, pictures make it more evident than it really is

https://i.imgur.com/JwK0J9i.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Eo94M1j.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GFd7pVs.jpg

Next is the dash so I can start running some wires, more to come shortly

Bullnerd
03-15-2017, 06:19 PM
Monkey, what alloy are you using for the panels? Looks stiff?

monkeyinfantry
03-16-2017, 03:50 PM
0.050 6061-T6 for the body, 0.080 for the foot/firewalls

It's a bit springy but I did most of the bending over my knee so it is not too stiff

Rat4020
03-16-2017, 05:33 PM
Monkey warm it up with a heat gun or a propane torch before takin it over yer knee that will help it from kinkin

Bullnerd
03-16-2017, 11:42 PM
That's what I thought.

If you didn't buy it all yet, you'd have a much easier time using a different alloy and it will look better without all the creases in it.

I think the race car stuff you buy is 3105 H-14.(if I remember from many moons ago) But you can use 5052 for the flatter sections or 3003 if you really want to form something.

plkracer
03-17-2017, 12:56 AM
5052-h32 is much easier to form than 6061-t6, and can be bent to 90 degrees with a fairly sharp die without cracking.

monkeyinfantry
03-17-2017, 01:39 PM
I'll keep that in mind for the future, I already bought about half the panel material, front and sides, I haven't bought the roof or rear yet. There aren't many bends left for the front or sides, that nose piece was the craziest it is going to get. I'll bust out the ol' heat gun for the few bends remaining.

Bullnerd
03-17-2017, 03:12 PM
Try to use what you have for the flatter sections if you can.

monkeyinfantry
05-21-2017, 03:28 AM
Well mounting the harnesses won't be as simple as just wrapping them around the bar behind the seats, the vertical bars of the firewall make this impossible. Not really sure what I'm going to do about harnesses at this point, playing around with the idea of welding a tube (with supports) behind the firewall in parallel with the top most tube, but I'm pretty sure the airbox is going to prevent that from working on one side as well. I also attempted to mount the RPM and screwed up enlarging the holes royally, can't even get three bolts in at once, so I have literally no idea what to do about that without completely ruining it, if I haven't already.

The dash is mounted though, so that's cool.

Deranged
05-21-2017, 11:09 AM
Got any pictures to help troubleshoot?

Justin

monkeyinfantry
05-22-2017, 02:24 PM
Nothing to take pictures of really, the holes are cockeyed and the bolts wont go through. I can get the top two in barley, and even when they are in, the RPM box does not sit square in the cradle at all, not even close. I'm pretty sure I've ruined it at this point, gonna need a new side cover or try to get someone to fill the holes with a TIG and try drilling them again. It's safe to say this will be literally the last thing I'm going to tackle on the buggy now, what an expensive ass mistake lol.

Moving forward, going to order my tachometer and all the switches and doo-dads I need for my dash so me and my buddy (an Electrical Engineer that wired our University's Formula Hybrid car) can start sorting out this harness and get it fired up so we can move onto headers. The longest build ever, continues...

monkeyinfantry
10-01-2017, 01:39 AM
Sorry for the absurdly large pictures, I switched from photobucket to imgur and they dont scale down the pictures when you link them

Decided to take a swing at making harness bars, so I bought a tube notcher from HF
https://i.imgur.com/vu7dMEA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Gipv4ht.jpg

Got a few 2' sections of 1.5" tube and laid out the belts
https://i.imgur.com/1wHg0Kp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fntMaTm.jpg

Making the connector 'leg' for the harness bar
https://i.imgur.com/Dd1YwNT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/P4leqLh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Mrt2mRi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9SM4Cq3.jpg

Testing a the fitment with a small section of tube, harness is a bit under level with the harness holes in the seat, which is perfect
https://i.imgur.com/jo9NLOU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LohAi0q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/niG50dn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5yZyQHG.jpg

Decided to go forward with it, second 'leg'
https://i.imgur.com/UhFiR6O.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JJcj09T.jpg

Fit good, cleaned it up a bit, squared it up with another piece of tube, and tacked it
https://i.imgur.com/YxgPn1Q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VaAr7em.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nKOuJnU.jpg

Bar held in place with a magnet
https://i.imgur.com/lTkd68m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/22O3nnb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Y9vnx23.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NLn95SS.jpg

Cut the extra bit off at an angle and capped it, going to finish welding around and then grind smooth
https://i.imgur.com/omWbLRJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gpXcdZ2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/F4MYNjc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XNKTdVZ.jpg

Thats it for now, I started the driver side but I got tired, going to finish it tomorrow. Cheers!

darwinpayne2000
10-01-2017, 11:49 AM
Yay!!! Pictures again!!

monkeyinfantry
10-01-2017, 02:08 PM
I was looking at the harness and it occurred to me that the harness might not have enough slack left over to be considered safe, so I did a test wrap. I know it needs to go back through the buckle once more towards the rear, it's just a pain to do with the tube held in place with duct tape. I read you should have at least 4" of slack and I have a bit more than that, what do you guys think? I can shorten the legs and get it closer to the seat.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/4a5087604a7c737783b184ba712a0f64.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/abe1352e3976b605b7099d86bb4bec06.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/748d3b57cf9cfb5720e1f128685ea357.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171001/a705a0231eae3460e942e032b7587a06.jpg

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monkeyinfantry
10-02-2017, 12:43 AM
Started the lap belt mounts for the passenger side and decided to do it all at once
https://i.imgur.com/tQiOCFh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9Qn2W8t.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jeT9FpK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CZRY5p1.jpg

Theres not enough room in between the two tubes on the chassis floor to put the lap harness eyelets next to each other. I decided to mount the driver's side back a bit further to fit them both, my driver seat is also mounted a bit further back so I don't think it should be an issue. Since the two eyelets had to be pretty close to each other, the two washers the came with them would over lap so I was thinking about cutting them and welding them together, but I decided to make something from scratch that would do the same.
https://i.imgur.com/APopvE0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0Q6PSW2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0hkftMd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bszi0WE.jpg

Going to get the driver harness bar squared away and make sure everything works nice before tacking it all in place. Full steam ahead!

Deranged
10-02-2017, 11:30 AM
Woo-hooo! Pictures, progress!!! Dig it man!!
One thing I learned with those seats that they suck after an hour. LOL They do their job for sure, but as far as comfort is concerned I would look into an upgrade of a suspension seat. SOOOOOPER comfy.

Justin

monkeyinfantry
10-02-2017, 12:11 PM
I had some Corbeau Baja XPs but unfortunately they didn't fit in the frame, so I decided to not screw around and get what I knew would fit so I could get it running in under 10 years lol I can always put in new seats after it is done

Rat4020
10-02-2017, 06:10 PM
Looks great man and I like the big Picts lol

monkeyinfantry
10-03-2017, 03:14 AM
Finished up the harness bars today, just need to grind those ends down smooth.
https://i.imgur.com/qQzqPqo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cQROyqc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lcrlKS7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZIKo92Y.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KqPkVoa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NbtJUAK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/sWJgl9x.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8WXu7pa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cQLBeGy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SS8BHiG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Cn2rXLm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HOiAYhI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K7ROz7R.jpg

Started the tabs for the shifter too
https://i.imgur.com/hbZa8C2.jpg

More coming soon

monkeyinfantry
10-04-2017, 02:19 AM
Shifter: completed.

Found out I didnt need to use angle, oh well
https://i.imgur.com/HkoFjA2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Zy2edqy.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/U6R2s91.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/N7ScCzc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/v16ux34.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DySAg3N.jpg

Next is RPM box shifter, the dash/leg area separator bar, passenger grab bar. I'm also thinking of making a dead pedals for the passenger and the drivers side to make my foot sit level with the clutch and brake. Stay tuned!

monkeyinfantry
10-20-2017, 01:10 PM
So the bikes throttle is a push-pull with two cables, how should I go about running it to a pedal? Just run one throttle cable? It sounds like a stupid question out loud, but I want to make sure the engine isnt going to get stuck at WOT and wont release the throttle cable

CARLRIDDLE
10-20-2017, 04:17 PM
One cable. I run a spring on pedal to pull it back up, and stronger spring on throttle.

monkeyinfantry
10-25-2017, 12:23 PM
So basically run a spring attached to the pedal that goes toward the front to pull the pedal back to rest, but also a spring from the pedal toward the back to put resistance on the pedal. Seems simple, there are 3 holes in my pedal plate for throttle cable's joint/union it attaches to, ill utilize the lowest one and make a little post that both springs can attach to so they're pulling from the same point evenly and so that they are away from my foot and not getting kicked. Now to locate some springs...

CARLRIDDLE
10-25-2017, 02:30 PM
So basically run a spring attached to the pedal that goes toward the front to pull the pedal back to rest, but also a spring from the pedal toward the back to put resistance on the pedal. Seems simple, there are 3 holes in my pedal plate for throttle cable's joint/union it attaches to, ill utilize the lowest one and make a little post that both springs can attach to so they're pulling from the same point evenly and so that they are away from my foot and not getting kicked. Now to locate some springs...

One on pedal pulling toward back of car, and one on the throttle bodies on motor pulling them back to close. Theres on on throttle body, sometimes its enough sometimes it need a little more.

monkeyinfantry
10-26-2017, 01:10 PM
Ahhh put one on the throttle body, thanks for the suggestions :)

Now I just need to source a throttle cable that long, anyone know where I can get one? Can I just use another push-pull cable?

Deranged
10-30-2017, 11:02 AM
Ahhh put one on the throttle body, thanks for the suggestions :)

Now I just need to source a throttle cable that long, anyone know where I can get one? Can I just use another push-pull cable?

California Cable!! They built 2 custom cables for my car. It took maybe a week or so to get them, and both cables were like $60.

Justin

Deranged
10-30-2017, 11:03 AM
http://push-pull.com/

Justin

monkeyinfantry
10-30-2017, 01:56 PM
So I can use a push-pull cable, same as the shift cables then? I already planned on buying 2 push-pull cables from midwestcontrol.com for shifting the bike and RPM box, will the same type of cable suffice as a throttle cable?

Sorry for the elementary questions, I've never held a push-pull style cable like these in my hands so it's hard to make a decision, dont want to waste the precious moneys.

https://i.imgur.com/T0YXQJyl.png

Deranged
10-30-2017, 08:54 PM
You will probably be better off with a standard pull cable for the throttle. I think if you used a push/pull type you would have to build a funky bracket off of the throttle bodies and have a couple pretty heavy duty return springs. Also, the pull type has a tighter min operating radius too.

Justin

monkeyinfantry
10-31-2017, 05:21 PM
Hmmmm ok, doesnt seem like midwestcontrol sells pull only cables, even custom, I'll look into the site you recommended


Edit: You sure I shouldn't use a push-pull? I see multiple buggy sites listing push-pull cables as throttle cables...

Kartek
https://i.imgur.com/OJq6p4Pl.png

Moore Parts
https://i.imgur.com/lZLS8n8l.png

Many other sites selling these too, and I can't for the life of me find anyone selling pull only throttle cables that aren't custom to order. This doesn't seem as straight forward as it should be haha

Deranged
11-01-2017, 09:10 AM
My guess is that the cables you see at Kartek, Pacific Customs, and EMPI are more geared for the VW and automotive applications maybe? My only logical thought is that the bikes originally had cables, so i went that direction.

Justin

CARLRIDDLE
11-01-2017, 10:18 AM
I used a stock atv cable, just happened to have right barrel and adj part fit my zx12. It runs over and down between seats. Then a standard braided cable is attached runs straight to pedal. There is a company that makes custom length cable with correct fitting on ea end, as some friends got em on their m/c cars.

monkeyinfantry
11-01-2017, 12:52 PM
Ok thats what I was figuring, VW buggys and not sand rails. I have both stock throttle cables, they're really short though, probably not long enough to even reach the floor so I'll have to order me up a custom one. Thanks guys.

ProtoDie
11-01-2017, 02:08 PM
here is a link to what I use in our SS buggies

http://protodie.com/Throttle-Cable_p_170.html


I just noticed the category has been hidden on the website and fixed that

on the GSXR motors:
I drill the stock throttle body hole slightly bigger to fit the brass barrel on the throttle cable, then the double nut on the threaded end of the cable locks right in to the throttle body mount where the stock cable was.
I also add a return assist spring

on the gas pedal end of the cable, I weld a tab with a hole to the frame to position the cable where I want it,,, in relationship to the gas pedal

then I drill a small hole sideways thru a 5/16 or 3/8 bolt. I put this bolt thru the side of the gas pedal plate at a height to match pedal and throttle body throw
then put the cable thru the side ways hole in the bolt and use 2 jam nuts to pinch the cable tight


hope this helps

monkeyinfantry
11-01-2017, 03:29 PM
Cool, much easier, thanks Jody