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mmobley
02-22-2013, 08:34 AM
I posted an introduction a few days ago and thought now would be a good time to start my build thread. As the title says, we are going to build 3 AR51's at the same time. I am attempting 2 and my good friend, JW, is building the 3rd one. My son Trent and daughters are helping also. I started on this about 3 weeks ago and will try to post pics of what has already been done. Bear with me while I figure out the correct procedure for posting pics. Thanks, Mitch

mmobley
02-22-2013, 08:45 AM
My tubing was on order so I started making parts. Found some dom in my shop and decided to make the bearing housing. My lathe is a 1966 Cincinnati hydrashift 17x42.

mmobley
02-22-2013, 08:50 AM
More parts!

Bullnerd
02-22-2013, 08:50 AM
Pics look good ,keep them coming!

Kickass lathe!

OH...and welcome dude.

mmobley
02-22-2013, 08:58 AM
Shop pics! I make a lot of 1-3/4" shafts with a 1-1/4" hole out of UHMW for the company I work for so I built a hydraulic drill attachment for my lathe.

mmobley
02-22-2013, 09:00 AM
More shop pics.

monkeyinfantry
02-22-2013, 09:01 AM
Lookin good!

mmobley
02-22-2013, 09:06 AM
Some of my shop rats. http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

monkeyinfantry
02-22-2013, 09:10 AM
Well at least they're not afraid to get dirty!

custom39
02-22-2013, 09:44 AM
Great pics! it is great to see young adults working!

sodman
02-22-2013, 09:50 AM
Mitch 12 X 7 Rims "Aftershockmotorsports"27 X 11 -12 rear tires 27 X 9 - 12 front ITP Mud lite XTR' s . Good luck with the build (s) looks like lots of hands to help out and good shop to work in.Keep the pics coming

Bullnerd
02-22-2013, 10:14 AM
Nice shop,looks like your well prepped to build the buggies.

mmobley
02-22-2013, 10:55 AM
The fabbing part doesn't intimidate me but the electrical scares the crap out of me. Fear of the unknown.

skreikem
02-22-2013, 10:56 AM
Nice lookin' shop you've got there! You're going to get those things built in no time!

Good luck!! :D

mmobley
02-22-2013, 11:02 AM
It is nice when I can get the kids involved. Makes me feel good. Built a coping attachment for the lathe.

nutz4sand
02-22-2013, 11:34 AM
Great start. Can't wiat to see more.

I just realized that your avatar is a way cool barbeque cooker for tailgating. You build that too? Got a bigger pic of it?

mmobley
02-22-2013, 11:38 AM
It is easy to bombard this thread with pics because this is what I have been working on for the last 3 weeks. I like to document the projects I build with pics because it is so fun to look at them later.

mmobley
02-22-2013, 12:53 PM
I wondered how long it would take for someone to notice. Since you were the first I am going to give it to you. Just kidding. I built it in 2008. I was bored one winter so I measured my revolver and scaled it up based on the tube I had for the compartment that holds the meat. It works extremely well. It was free standing until I could build the trailer. One of the pics shows a pork loin and chicken on it. That was the first time I ever used it.

Pstegs 101
02-22-2013, 12:59 PM
I wondered how long it would take for someone to notice. Since you were the first I am going to give it to you. Just kidding. I built it in 2008. I was bored one winter so I measured my revolver and scaled it up based on the tube I had for the compartment that holds the meat. It works extremely well. It was free standing until I could build the trailer. One of the pics shows a pork loin and chicken on it. That was the first time I ever used it.

Nice that how man cook their meat andI hope your kids like riding :):) keep us loaded with pics

mmobley
02-22-2013, 01:04 PM
A few more pics of the smoker. It was a fun build.

mmobley
02-22-2013, 01:10 PM
Just about have every part made now. BTW Rick S has been just super to deal with. I design and document fabricated items myself and I have to say he does a thorough job. It is very time consuming to do it right.

mmobley
02-22-2013, 01:16 PM
I am cutting parts for 3 but I don't know if I can fit three in my shop and still have room to move around. If not I will build 2 then build the 3rd one after them. Not sure??

leok
02-22-2013, 02:24 PM
Mobley,

Fantastic shop.... very cool BBQ .... and a great stack of parts [smilie=ecstatic.gi: WOW!!
Great to have you here on the site. I'll bet you have some great tricks of the trade you could post, and here's hoping you will. :D

Leo

mmobley
02-22-2013, 02:28 PM
Thanks for the compliments everyone. This will be another fun project. I will definitely help out when I can. Thanks, Mitch

SoapKart
02-22-2013, 10:51 PM
It's looking good. Disregard if you notice an extra shop rat running around. I'll bring you some black and gold to hang on the walls.

NinjaRaptor
02-23-2013, 09:37 AM
That Cooker is awesome, what a great idea. Looking forward to seeing the build progress. I really like the shop as well, looks like some nice equipment to say the least. Certainly beats my rendition of 101 things to do with a dremel tool! :D

daaboots
02-23-2013, 03:53 PM
Wow. Great looking shop you have! I hope my two girls help build buggies with me when they're older.

mmobley
02-24-2013, 08:04 AM
We made pretty good progress last night. I will get some pics posted soon. I would love to work on it today but unfortunately I can't. I have work to do today that I have put off as long as I could. I guess it pays the bills.

N8ball
02-25-2013, 05:59 AM
Man that smoker is way cool. Though, for some reason I would not want to follow you to the BBQ. I guess I'd have to ask myself if I felt lucky.

I'm looking forward to seeing your build. Keep it up. I wish I had some helpers in my shop. A little shared enthusiasm helps the build go easy.

mmobley
02-25-2013, 06:18 AM
N8ball, that is too funny!

mmobley
02-25-2013, 06:21 AM
Ok, I have some build pics from Friday night after work.

mmobley
02-25-2013, 06:27 AM
Years ago when I bought my lathe the chuck was shot and I could not chuck anything up accurately so I bought a new one. Well, the old one sat around in the shop and one day I decided to build something that I could use to rotate parts while welding. I found an old wirefeeder and rigged something up as you will see in the attached pics. I have hardly ever used it until this weekend. Man was that nice. The pic doesn't do justice to how nice the welds looked. Oh, and a couple more shop rats that didn't want their picture taken.

mmobley
02-25-2013, 06:44 AM
This is a picture of me welding a bung in and more parts.

Bullnerd
02-25-2013, 07:14 AM
Thats a kick azz shop!

I like your ground strap.

Whats the primary work load of your business?

mmobley
02-25-2013, 07:17 AM
I make a lot of plastic parts for the company I work for. I machine, cut, drill, and punch a lot of UHMW and HDPE wear parts.

mmobley
02-25-2013, 07:23 AM
Trent putting together more parts. He really got into. He worked from about 10:30 Saturday morning until 8 that night. Pretty impressive for a teenage to work on a Saturday night!

mmobley
02-25-2013, 07:29 AM
Some more pictures. JW, the taller guy with that hat, squaring up a weldment. Then a couple of pics of both of us burning wire.

mmobley
02-25-2013, 07:34 AM
And more parts! A arms and various other parts.

mmobley
02-25-2013, 07:42 AM
One last post with a couple of pics. As you can see, the pile of cut parts is getting pretty small. The other pic is of my lathe set up to start making the parts that pay the bills. Thats all folks!

Chikin
02-25-2013, 08:04 AM
I need to build another turn table for welding. Shop looks cool and well I guess now I'm kinda done I wish I still had a project to work on. Looks good.

Trouble675
02-25-2013, 08:22 AM
You suck

Chikin
02-25-2013, 08:26 AM
You suck

Ha.... What??? Because he will have 3???
Ha still funny

Bullnerd
02-25-2013, 08:31 AM
Chikin...thats a compliment.

The nicer your shop and the better your tools ....the more you suck!

Chikin
02-25-2013, 08:34 AM
Chikin...thats a compliment.

The nicer your shop and the better your tools ....the more you suck!

Oh shit. I missed that one. I guess with my one car garage and 4 1/2 grinder. I guess I'm no where near "you suck".

Either way it's really funny. I guess I'm not "hip" now I am!

Trouble675
02-25-2013, 08:50 AM
Yes it was a compliment, sorta. Actually I was expressing my envy. I'd probably be a LOT further along if I wasn't here 5-6 days a week. [smilie=rant.gif]

.http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Uglyduck675/IMAG0616_zps18b0cc13.jpg

But seriously folks, you guys really work fast! Everything looks fantastic!

mmobley
02-25-2013, 10:41 AM
When you have 3 guys working, 2 wire welders and almost all the parts made it goes pretty fast. It will probably slow down soon if I don't get paid for a couple of side jobs. Also, JW and I used to work in and R&D shop together and my son Trent has been running the mill since he was really young. In fact he used to have to stand on two milk crates to reach the controls. Thanks for all of the comments and praise. I was reluctant to document a build thread but I am doing it because I enjoy reading everyone elses so much.

mmobley
02-25-2013, 10:44 AM
Chikin 1974, your car is freakin awesome! I watched a video of it a while ago. Trouble, if I was on the road as you are my build would not be moving as it is.

sodman
02-25-2013, 05:30 PM
Slow down man your starting to make look like a slacker, at this pace your going to pass me in couple of weeks. Many hands make light work my son goes out with me most nights but at 11 he soon get bord but I think he's more excited than me he keeps asking how much longer. I think he figures once we have two up and running thats his ticket to ride out farther than the farm land. Anyways looking great they do go together really nice
and with all the parts you'll fly through all three

Trouble675
02-25-2013, 05:46 PM
Slow down man your starting to make look like a slacker

Hello! Exactly! Lol!

N8ball
02-26-2013, 07:12 AM
I guess with my one car garage and 4 1/2 grinder. I guess I'm no where near "you suck".

!

Chikin you're Awesome. With a Capital A. If you need a new project you should build a fat tire minibike to cruise around camp on.

The build progress is quite impressive. Sounds like you have a great team to help make it happen.

mmobley
02-26-2013, 07:25 AM
Not much progress last night we had to work on production parts but tonight we should be able to start bending tubing. Rick S. sent me the bend template so I am ready to roll. I asked Trent last night if I could refer to him as "mulett boy" and his reply was no but you can call me mullett man. I had to laugh at his picture I posted on one of the previous pages where he isn't wearing a hat. Nice mullett! I wonder if he wants to be like Joe dirt. In our local paper they posted his senior class interview and asked him what his 3 favorite things were and his reply was " motorcycles, mulletts, and Merica! Too funny

Chikin
02-26-2013, 07:38 AM
Chikin you're Awesome. With a Capital A. If you need a new project you should build a fat tire minibike to cruise around camp on.

The build progress is quite impressive. Sounds like you have a great team to help make it happen.

Thanks n8ball. I want to build some thing but I might do a kids small battery operatored car. And graph a mini quad under it. But make it so instead of 3mph. Make it do like 40mph.

I don't like camp cruisers. I like camp a hole with the mini car that's too fast for camp areas. Some thing like that.

Thanks for the kind words. I will have updates on mine soon

Trouble675
02-26-2013, 07:41 AM
Yep, Iowa has rednecks too! But I've been called worse. [smilie=moon.gif]

custom39
02-26-2013, 09:57 AM
Awsome shop and help!!

Love the smoker!!!

mmobley
02-27-2013, 06:37 AM
OMG I had a dream last night we were building 7 AR 51's!! OH, thanks for the compliment on the smoker. I am kind of a redneck I guess. I like country and rock but Trent is into this kind of music. Travis Barker and Yelawolf "Push Em". The video is pretty cool and when he is working to this kind of music he goes like a mofo. Travis Barker, Yelawolf - Push 'Em - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B2HZwmzfXM)

mmobley
02-28-2013, 06:27 AM
We worked on the rear end last night. Cleaned off the slab and layed out the parts.

mmobley
02-28-2013, 06:32 AM
A picture of Trent working on the housing that encloses the chain tensioning mechanism. Also the tires and rims showed up.:p

Rat4020
02-28-2013, 06:35 AM
Hay whats amatter W/redneckz and mullets ? Mullets dont start fights People do.... I like your shop and the all the great help ya get from your fam .. cool

mmobley
02-28-2013, 06:39 AM
I welded a little on the rear ends and my youngest daughter drilled some holes in some tubes that have some threaded rod inserted and will be welded and plug welded.

mmobley
02-28-2013, 06:46 AM
Hay whats amatter W/redneckz and mullets ? Mullets dont start fights People do....
That is too funny! I prepped the sprockets in the lathe running real slow and using a flap wheel on a 4-1/2" grinder. Had to call it a night looks like I am getting low on welding gas.;)

fabdaddy55
02-28-2013, 11:49 AM
Great lookin family.

how cool to have a progect that the whole fam. WANTS to participate in

If I could do it all over again I would like to have been one of your kids
and gro up workin in that shop and learning all those skills


Awesome job. makes me think that when you finish those 3 rides and show them off that you will be hounded by everyone to build more and sell them


wonder how long it would take to build just one AR51 with your highly skilled crew.

mmobley
03-01-2013, 06:07 AM
Fabdaddy55, thanks a bunch for the compliments. I am really not that knowledgeable. I have no formal training just some common sense. I ran Acme Gridley screw machines for 8 years in the 80's and that is where I fell in love with machining. I have worked with quite a few different people in the last 30 years and have learned something from all of them. I get great pleasure from watching my family and friends helping. thanks again

mmobley
03-01-2013, 06:33 AM
We now have all of the tires and my rims showed up so mine are now mounted. Waiting on JW's rims. We made a little more progress last night bending some tubing. Had a couple friends stop by that I hadn't seen for quite a while so we stood around and socialized for quite a while. Here are a couple pics of the tires and the full scale bend template from Rick S.

mmobley
03-01-2013, 06:40 AM
A few pictures of Trent aligning the cope and bending the tube.

mmobley
03-01-2013, 06:47 AM
Just about everybody got in on the bending! Here is JW and daughter Kayla bending some tube. We will finish bending tonight.

mmobley
03-01-2013, 09:41 AM
I like this guys saying!

mmobley
03-01-2013, 01:43 PM
I just wanted to post that the quality of Rick's parts are top notch and remember that is coming from a machinist. Oh, and I also wanted to see if my signature showed up. :D

Bullnerd
03-01-2013, 02:13 PM
Congrats on a great family and business,not easy to do these days.

mmobley
03-03-2013, 02:40 PM
Bent the rest of the tubing Friday night. Made pretty good progress Saturday.

mmobley
03-03-2013, 02:54 PM
All 3 buggies are at the same point in the build. It looks pretty crazy in my shop.

mmobley
03-03-2013, 03:13 PM
After we had all 3 frames sitting on their stands we started welding small parts. Then the girls got a picture of me eating my supper while JW was working!. Then I had to take it for a test drive! :p

Trouble675
03-03-2013, 04:08 PM
So, you'll be test driving for real on Friday?

mmobley
03-04-2013, 03:40 PM
Things are probably going to slow down a bunch due to money or lack of it. We still have to weld them up and a lot of small parts to weld also. It has been fun as you can see. ;)

Trouble675
03-04-2013, 04:11 PM
A picture of Trent working on the housing that encloses the chain tensioning mechanism. Also the tires and rims showed up.:p

How do you like those wheels? I'm assuming you got them on eBay....? Have you test fit them to the hubs yet? Just curious about the fit cuz I haven't bought wheels yet.

fabdaddy55
03-04-2013, 11:03 PM
What have you guys decided on for motor?. Will you use FNR box? Big bike ? sled? Man an apex in an AR51, cvt to RPM fnr box. Nothin could touch it.

Ive been thinking about an 1800 vtec in my st4 when I start it, with a CVT to RPM fnr. Makes me drool.

Good luck with your builds I think you guys are makin us all drool;)

mmobley
03-05-2013, 08:35 AM
How do you like those wheels? I'm assuming you got them on eBay....? Have you test fit them to the hubs yet? Just curious about the fit cuz I haven't bought wheels yet.

They are 5 bolt 4-1/2" bolt circle. The only problem is the center caps don't fit with Ricks Billet hubs. I will run them without the center caps or look to see if I can modify the hubs.

mmobley
03-05-2013, 08:39 AM
What have you guys decided on for motor?. Will you use FNR box? Big bike ? sled? Man an apex in an AR51, cvt to RPM fnr box. Nothin could touch it.

Ive been thinking about an 1800 vtec in my st4 when I start it, with a CVT to RPM fnr. Makes me drool.

Good luck with your builds I think you guys are makin us all drool;)

I have a 07 GSXR 750 I bought off a member here. For my second one I am undecided but Trouble's Busa sounds good! :D JW is still searching but it will be a big bike motor as well.

Trouble675
03-05-2013, 08:58 AM
I have a 07 GSXR 750 I bought off a member here. For my second one I am undecided but Trouble's Busa sounds good! JW is still searching but it will be a big bike motor as well.

You're in good shape with the 750! Rick's already got the engine mounts worked out. The Busa mounts are different, from what I've heard. Doubtful it'll happen but if I get to that point first, I'll send you the measurements. (I know, it's a stretch) [smilie=strokin.gif]

mmobley
03-05-2013, 09:32 AM
My second one will take a while longer because of lack of funds. To build one takes a chunk of change and two is ....twice as much. Wow am I smart.:rolleyes:

leok
03-05-2013, 12:31 PM
I feel your pain :confused: I just finished buying all of the purchased parts for my second Barracuda (wheels, tires, shocks, drive shafts and CVs, etcc..) ..... ouch!! [smilie=alright.gif]
Your builds are looking great. My boys always said they wanted to help. but I waited too long and they all got older.... Now they'll just have to help drive them.

Leo

Pstegs 101
03-05-2013, 01:11 PM
What have you guys decided on for motor?. Will you use FNR box? Big bike ? sled? Man an apex in an AR51, cvt to RPM fnr box. Nothin could touch it.

Ive been thinking about an 1800 vtec in my st4 when I start it, with a CVT to RPM fnr. Makes me drool.

Good luck with your builds I think you guys are makin us all drool;)
u know the suggestion is 600cc

fabdaddy55
03-05-2013, 05:56 PM
yah the SUGGESTION is 600 cc BUT a vtec motor is only slightly bigger than a bike motor without the tranny. And hooked to an RPM via CVT its a pretty compact drivitrain. The st4 frame certianly can be modded to fit the honda.
Im already considering widening 4" and streaching it 6". A little beef in the rite places and it should be fine:p

Pstegs 101
03-05-2013, 06:03 PM
yah the SUGGESTION is 600 cc BUT a vtec motor is only slightly bigger than a bike motor without the tranny. And hooked to an RPM via CVT its a pretty compact drivitrain. The st4 frame certianly can be modded to fit the honda.
Im already considering widening 4" and streaching it 6". A little beef in the rite places and it should be fine:p


that would be cool if a busa was in it :):) i am kida thinking about doing that when i get around to building one

Trouble675
03-05-2013, 06:05 PM
that would be cool if a busa was in it :):) i am kida thinking about doing that when i get around to building one

I'll let ya know how it goes.

Pstegs 101
03-06-2013, 08:58 AM
I'll let ya know how it goes.


okay

Trouble675
03-06-2013, 09:20 AM
okay

I certainly hope you're a patient person! Ha!

mmobley
03-07-2013, 06:17 AM
They are 5 bolt 4-1/2" bolt circle. The only problem is the center caps don't fit with Ricks Billet hubs. I will run them without the center caps or look to see if I can modify the hubs.

Trouble, here is an update on the wheel fit to the hubs. There is interference between the billet hub and the center cap of the wheel. It looks to me that the best fix is to make a 1/4" thick wheel spacer and a custom dust cap that is approx. 1/2" shorter, then the center cap will snap in. No biggy.

mmobley
03-07-2013, 06:24 AM
We made some progress Monday on the welding side of things, JW welded on the frames and welded up the A Arms.

mmobley
03-07-2013, 06:34 AM
So, you may ask yourself...what was Mitch doing if JW was welding?? Well my lathe has a lot of play in the cross slide so I tore into it and found that it is pretty worn. My split nut is in bad shape and my gib adjustment was at its max. I cleaned things up and tweaked things a little more and it is much tighter than before. I need to find a new split nut. It appears at first glance to be left hand acme threads. I have had this 1966 Hydrashift for 13 years so maybe the nut will hold up for another 13.;)

mmobley
03-07-2013, 06:41 AM
Tuesday Trent and I finished the machining of the rear crush tubes and had those ready to weld. I made a sleeve to fit over the spindle to protect it during the welding process and JW welded them up.

mmobley
03-07-2013, 06:50 AM
We are going to have to wait for the Heim spacers but we wanted to start assembling the A arms so I had a piece of Nylon and machined some crude temporary spacers last night. The finish looks pretty bad because I used my cut off tool to turn the o.d. I also found that a common bronze bushing we use at work are a good fit for a temporary bushing in the A arms. I have not had time to make the Delrin bushings yet so these will work and allow us to continue the assembly. I also had not coped the Nerf bar tubes so we got that done last night.

mmobley
03-07-2013, 07:13 AM
We tacked up the nerf bar on one side and assembled the a arms temporarily and slid the wheels on. No lug nuts yet. I have to say that the nerf bars make it look pretty wild! [smilie=non_banana2:

Trouble675
03-07-2013, 04:32 PM
Trouble, here is an update on the wheel fit to the hubs. There is interference between the billet hub and the center cap of the wheel. It looks to me that the best fix is to make a 1/4" thick wheel spacer and a custom dust cap that is approx. 1/2" shorter, then the center cap will snap in. No biggy.

Hmm. Ok. Back ones are good tho?

Pstegs 101
03-07-2013, 05:10 PM
nice :):):) great job

mmobley
03-08-2013, 05:49 AM
No problem on the rears and the fronts will only require a 1/4" thick spacer and shorter dust cap. A guy may even be able to find an off the shelf cap that would work. There may be another approach also...shorten spindle up, machine snout on hub and ditch the spacer. I am not 100% positive yet which direction I will go.

mmobley
03-08-2013, 05:56 AM
When we ordered our shocks we were told they had the fronts but 4 weeks until we get the rears. Well, the rears showed up. :) Also, I wanted to share something tool related. These zip disks and flap wheels are the best we have ever used. We have tried lots of different ones and these are the best IMO. Used on a 4-1/2" grinder and you can accomplish a lot. We made a little more progress last night.

daaboots
03-08-2013, 07:29 AM
I can't believe how fast you're building 3 of these [smilie=ecstatic.gi:

mmobley
03-08-2013, 08:32 AM
If I would have started the build thread when we started cutting parts it probably wouldn't seem like it is going so fast.

Bullnerd
03-08-2013, 09:37 AM
Thanks for the tip on the wheels. Where are you getting them from?

mmobley
03-08-2013, 09:43 AM
We get them from Linweld. I guess now it is Matheson Linweld. The zip wheel is a Walter # 11-t 042. 4-1/2" x .045" x 7/8". The flap wheels come from them also.

mmobley
03-11-2013, 06:34 AM
Tacked up the pedal boxes and did a lot of welding over the weekend.

mmobley
03-11-2013, 06:37 AM
More welding.

mmobley
03-13-2013, 06:58 AM
Trent and I worked on the steering Sunday. He had to mill down the tap plates a little due to our 3/4" sq. .065 wall tube we ordered had a wall thickness closer to .075. We then pressed the bronze bushings into the bearings and Trent turned the I.D. to spec.

mmobley
03-13-2013, 07:11 AM
JW had an old steering wheel so we were able to throw an old seat and the steering wheel on to get an idea of the cockpit size. JW is 6'5" and it looks like he should be fine. We were afraid we were going to have to stretch it but it looks to fit him fine. I lucked out and found about a foot of 5" Round in my shop so we blanked out the sprocket and rotor flanges and faced them to width in the old Hydrashift.

mmobley
03-13-2013, 07:18 AM
Last night I set up a little fixture with a 3" slug to transfer punch the 2 piece collars for the caliper mount. JW drilled and tapped them.

mmobley
03-13-2013, 07:30 AM
I used that same 3" slug to help locate the saddle plate to the collar. I tacked them up and JW welded them up. I just noticed in the pic of him welding his glove has JW on it. Also, I tacked together a temporary welding table for this project and made it to be a comfortable height for me. I am 5'8". It looks like he has to bend over a lot to weld. It looks like I am going to have to place another big order with Rick S. for the remainder of the parts. Rick has been just fantastic to deal with. Anyone that is contemplating a build like this be assured that Rick's service after the sale is top notch. Thanks Rick! [smilie=non_banana2:

mmobley
03-15-2013, 06:07 AM
Finally uncrated the motor I bought from a member here about a month ago. Man was it crated well. I think the staples were 4" long. It took me 30 minutes to get one side off the crate. It's an 07 GSXR 750.

mmobley
03-15-2013, 06:18 AM
We got the rotors and Sprockets back from the platers. Not sure if plating the rotors was the smart thing to do but time will tell. The second pic is a little [smilie=bs_offtopic:

buggymane
03-15-2013, 06:35 AM
looks great

Trouble675
03-15-2013, 07:22 AM
Hey! What a coincidence! I've got a hooker tied up in my shop too!

mmobley
03-15-2013, 08:10 AM
That was the old tapper handle off my kegerator. Sold the kegerator to make more room in the shop but kept the HD tapper as it was a gift from friends.

RickS.
03-15-2013, 12:25 PM
We got the rotors and Sprockets back from the platers. Not sure if plating the rotors was the smart thing to do but time will tell. The second pic is a little [smilie=bs_offtopic:

I have my rotors zinc plated.
I'm told the plating process removes the scale.
And you want the scale removed. Either by bead blasting, plating or both.

mmobley
03-15-2013, 12:48 PM
This was a kanigen nickel plating, which is pretty dang tough. Blasted, then plated.

mmobley
03-22-2013, 07:01 AM
Not much progress lately due to side jobs that need to be done. Also my credit card got hacked so it got shut off so no ordering until new card shows up. Getting ready to order a bunch more parts from Rick S. JW mounted his seat in his buggy Wednesday. My seats are supposed to show up today.

Bullnerd
03-22-2013, 07:14 AM
JW looks different today?

Very cool.

Stupid side jobs!

mmobley
03-22-2013, 07:25 AM
Yes he does! :) My youngest daughter Sunny came out to the shop and wanted to try out the seat so I couldn't resist taking her picture!

Pstegs 101
03-23-2013, 07:17 PM
ooo that cute:):)

mmobley
03-26-2013, 05:57 AM
My seats came in so I made some mounting brackets and set the seats in Saturday. It took a lot longer to do it than I would have thought. Sunday I removed the motor from the stand and tried to figure out how to mount it.

mmobley
03-26-2013, 06:16 AM
This 07 motor has a header that that is shaped much different than Jason's from Kentucky. I think his was like an 03 I believe. His build thread is what inspired me to build mine. I cut my lower rear motor mount brackets with the supplied DXF file from Rick. It turns out this motor is quite different due to the year and realized that the header would be lower than the frame. So I placed the motor as far forward as I thought I could go and raised it up so the header was about 1/2" from the floor pan and cut some new lower mount brackets.

mmobley
03-26-2013, 06:29 AM
Bolted the lower rear brackets on then moved up to the upper rears, then the fronts. It looks like the electrical/battery enclosure could be tight.

mmobley
03-26-2013, 06:38 AM
My credit card got hacked a couple weeks ago and I just got my new one in the mail so yesterday I ordered the sub wire harness to the gauge cluster that I was missing. I also ordered a fuel pump, the shifter linkage, a clutch lever, and a couple steering wheels off ebay. I ordered my fork boots from Dennis Kirk too. Rick S. is sending me a bunch more parts that should be here this week.

mmobley
03-26-2013, 06:42 AM
The funny thing is I am not even sure what Rick is sending me so it will be like being a little kid at Christmas time with the exception that I have to pay for everything.:)

Trouble675
03-26-2013, 07:01 AM
That's the way I am when I get home on the weekends! Its like Xmas every Friday!

Chikin
03-26-2013, 09:53 AM
Yeah I know the feeling too. Except I have occasionally not told the wife I ordered parts. So not only am I excited. I also have the anxiety to hide out in the garage and cut the delivery guy off at the pass!!!!

Now that's one way to up the feeling like a kid a Xmas.

mmobley
03-26-2013, 10:13 AM
damn chikin that is sooo funny yet true!

Chikin
03-26-2013, 10:33 AM
damn chikin that is sooo funny yet true!

Hey another thing I should add. So my wife see the parts down the road. And well it's "world war 3" and says to me "why do u do this behind my back"
I have been married for 3 years and with her for 7. So I say as follows. (It works)

"Look. For the past 39 years I didn't have to answer to any one. And well It's not that I want to start a practice I'm not comfortable with any way..... Let's talk about my step daughter (her child). So she has been In cheer leading for 6 years and tumbling 2 times a week and between the dues, uniforms, and tumbling fees. Get her in this living room RIGHT NOW AND DO A BACK HAND SPRING!!!" (She can't do it! And we pay over 600.00$ a MONTH)


As I smeark as I walk away I make it a point to say "so I made a better choice with my purchase!!" Silence is ok and golden. Don't get me wrong. I still feel like I'm hiding it. But I will not change a thing and continue to do it for the shear excitement.

Makes me want to order parts right now just because!!! Love the builds too.

Trouble675
03-26-2013, 10:41 AM
MY GOD CHIKIN!!! And you still have your gonadz?

My answer was always "I'm sorry dear. I'll try to do better next time." Got divorced anyway. :/

NinjaRaptor
03-26-2013, 01:37 PM
Heck, if you really want to dig a hole for yourself, order the parts on the wife's credit card! The response will be swift, of that I am sure.

My wife understands I am a guy with the ill inflected toy gene, that's just the way it is. Better that than the strip club!:D

Duane
03-26-2013, 11:43 PM
I'm gonna try that strip club one!

mmobley
03-27-2013, 05:54 AM
The front motor mounts are pretty long and I was afraid of possible side movement so I drew up a gusset and welded it in last night. The other pic is of a brass hammer I use. They are pretty handy being softer than the steel.

RickS.
03-27-2013, 07:58 AM
Hey I like it!
Probably not a bad idea on the 750
From what I remember there is no mid mount on the right side.
This will help.

Stomper
03-31-2013, 07:24 PM
mmobley, I just read through your entire post and just want to say that you and your crew are doing a great job. The buggy's look awsome. It great to see the whole family getting thier hands in there also. I think it is so cool to have younger kids in there helping you, especialy the girls. With an awsome shop and tools like you have it would be alot of fun getting everyone involved.

mmobley
04-01-2013, 06:20 AM
Thanks Stomper, it was a lot of fun cutting drilling and assembling the buggies. Unfortunately I am at a point in the build where there is not a lot they can do. I am doing a lot of machine work and figuring out the electrical.

mmobley
04-01-2013, 06:47 AM
This weekend I worked on the rear axle assembly. There is a lot of machine work that goes into the assembly but it was fun. Also received a lot of parts from Rick S. He now sells all of the brake parts, cv's axles and lots of other components all listed on his website.

mmobley
04-01-2013, 06:52 AM
I machined the rotor flange and mated the splined hub to it and welded it up.

mmobley
04-01-2013, 06:59 AM
I machined the splined axle and fit it to the sprocket flange, welded it up then machined it true. The I assembled the parts.

daaboots
04-02-2013, 08:02 AM
Nice updates. Great welds!

mmobley
04-02-2013, 12:03 PM
I have been trying to post pics of how I do things hoping that someone else might learn something or make a suggestion to me.

Chikin
04-02-2013, 12:42 PM
Well speaking of learning some thing. Do u use a turn table to weld. Or leave it in the lathe.
I'm sure others want to see how to make welds like that. (Yeah it's also a welder and skill)

I use a turn table and should post some videos of that. Haven't used it in months.

mmobley
04-02-2013, 01:10 PM
I built a turn table and I used it when I welded my bungs in but the rear axle I welded on my welding table. I would be afraid to weld in my lathe for fear of arcing through the bearings. I tried to post pics of how I clamped the splined hub to the flange to tack weld it so welding newbs would get the idea that you need to hold the piece down so when you tack it doesn't pull up the opposite side. Also, the plates and washer covering the threaded holes to keep spatter out. It sucks having spatter in a threaded hole. Everything I have learned has been the hard way. My son Trent is working at the factory with me and I try to let him figure things out on his own. He amazes me at how easy welding and machining are to him. Chikin, post some videos or pics of your turn table I would like to see them.

Chikin
04-02-2013, 01:12 PM
I will do that. Hey I'm packing up to fly out tomorrow for Disneyland so it will have to wait til I get back. (Last thing I need the wife to see if me making another video...she thinks people don't watch them! Ha )

mmobley
04-02-2013, 01:23 PM
Speaking of welds....where I work we have a lot of fun clowning around, aka "Tom Foolery", and playing jokes on each other all in fun. Well my co worker, who I will refer to as Oscar, I guess because that is his name, took a welding course and was doing quite well. He had several pieces welded together on his welding table that looked quite good. He was quite proud of them and everyone that walked by would look at them. They sat there for a day or two when I got the idea to play a joke on him. So I turned the welder on, left the gas off, and welded over every weld. The pics show what it looked like. OMG it was great!![smilie=non_banana2:

MfingMulletMan
04-02-2013, 01:49 PM
Hey old man ya sure those aren't yours? They look like chicken shit hahaha! Let the young buck come out to the shop and show your ass up! Gotta wet down the mullet though, don't want the son of a bitch cathing on fire!

Chikin
04-02-2013, 01:52 PM
Wow a first posting blazing hott.

mmobley
04-02-2013, 02:30 PM
Hmmm... wonder who that is? If he comes out to the shop I will do this [smilie=gun_chair.g:

Chikin
04-02-2013, 02:34 PM
Hmmm... wonder who that is? If he comes out to the shop I will do this [smilie=gun_chair.g:

Ok we'll remember mbn rule number 1 and 2. Pictures And videos.
MOAR of it.

mmobley
04-03-2013, 06:13 AM
We had a lot of parts show up from Rick so I had Trent put in the other two R&P's while I finished mounting the motor.

mmobley
04-03-2013, 06:22 AM
I am trying to sort out the electrical in anticipation of the first start up. I am undecided about eliminating the exhaust control valve and may post in the engine section to see what others think. I needed a solder gun and picked this one up. Battery operated unit. It seems to work quite well. Cost was $25.

Pstegs 101
04-03-2013, 08:01 AM
nice and like the bar stools

mmobley
04-03-2013, 10:48 AM
Bar stools are $20.00 Wal Mart specials then I branded them with the HD logo. For cheap bar stools they have held up well. I have had them for 10 years and they get used and abused a lot.

Pstegs 101
04-03-2013, 03:52 PM
i love walmart :) [smilie=ecstatic.gi:[smilie=ecstatic.gi:

Duane
04-03-2013, 11:13 PM
Speaking of welds....where I work we have a lot of fun clowning around, aka "Tom Foolery", and playing jokes on each other all in fun. Well my co worker, who I will refer to as Oscar, I guess because that is his name, took a welding course and was doing quite well. He had several pieces welded together on his welding table that looked quite good. He was quite proud of them and everyone that walked by would look at them. They sat there for a day or two when I got the idea to play a joke on him. So I turned the welder on, left the gas off, and welded over every weld. The pics show what it looked like. OMG it was great!![smilie=non_banana2:
Back in the 80's I built truck bodies at Redwood Reliance. A popular bit of Tom Foolery was to put a firecracker in your friends gas diffuser on his mig gun. Come back from lunch and wait for it.[smilie=rofl.gif]

wjfawb0
04-07-2013, 08:55 PM
Looking good. If there is anything I can help with, feel free to ask. Rick of course is the biggest help, but anything with wiring and motorcycle engines I am decent with. When I started, the wiring was not a concern (I'm a sparky). I was concerned with getting the mechanicals lined up, functional and presentable. My 2003 GSXR-750 AR51 has been mechanically flawless so far. :)

mmobley
04-08-2013, 07:04 AM
Thanks Jason. Your build thread is what inspired me. I have to get my cables made up next but I don't have a throttle cable to send them. I suppose I could buy one off ebay.

LilChubby
04-08-2013, 08:21 AM
You should'nt need to send in a cable. I guess it depends on who is making it, but you should be able to tell them the lenth and what kind of ends you need on it and where you want the adjustment at. I used barnett the last time for a cable on my Harley. They have a page on their site that explains how to measure it.

RickS.
04-08-2013, 08:46 AM
I like to send one because this way the chances are better of getting what you want.
You could just measure the hole for the barrel end in the throttle body linkage.
Then tell them what you want.
This is where I've had them blow it. And believe me It's not fun trying to make it work if the barrel or cable diameter is too big. On the clutch I like them to re-use the wear sleeve on the barrel at the lever.
They also send your original cables back.

mmobley
04-09-2013, 06:16 AM
I figured out my shift linkage over the weekend. We decided on a right side shifter. I had to order the shifter linkage for the bike off ebay as it was missing. The little toe peg that you push on to shift was broke off so I cut it off and welded it on at 90 degrees, drilled a hole and mounted a ball joint link. I am going to redo the mount plate to the aluminum linkage plate as it looks cobbled up.

Chikin
04-09-2013, 11:18 AM
That's exactly how dwarf car shifting linkage is. No cables. Just all pivot links. Works great.

mmobley
04-09-2013, 01:26 PM
I used bronze bushings and shoulder bolts to create the pivot. The cross tube is 1" 11 ga. with a bung welded in each end. The linkage rods are 1/2" solid with ends turned to 3/8" and threaded 3/8-24. Bronze will be replaced with Delrin after painting. The shoulder bolts will be assembled with blue loctite.

Trouble675
04-09-2013, 02:10 PM
That's pretty close to what I'm planing on doing. I also want the rh shifter. I'm planning on using pillow blocks to hold the lateral linkage bar for smoother operation.

mmobley
04-10-2013, 07:02 AM
I made the adapter plates to mount my $30 ebay steering wheels on. I used blue loctite on the socket head cap screws. I like how the steering wheel matches the seat.

mmobley
04-10-2013, 07:11 AM
I made a slight alteration to the engine compartment to make it easier to install/remove the engine. I used a zip disk on a 4-1/2" grinder and cut out the square tube. I then drilled a hole in each end on the inside and welded a 3/8" nut inside the tube. Then I endcapped each end and polished smooth. Then I welded a plate on the inside to bolt the tube in and hold it in place for strength and to make it easier to put the nerf bars on. I was pleasantly surprised that when I cut through the first tube that the structure didn't spring one way or another. It did not move at all. [smilie=ecstatic.gi:

mmobley
04-10-2013, 07:28 AM
I talked to Rick S. on the phone last night and we were having a discussion about how the plans will get you so far and then you are on your own. You have to be able to figure things out on your own or inquire from the group here at MB. IMO there are so many variables that it would be nearly impossible to accommodate everyone with all of the different engines available. To me, at this point, is where you can add your own personal touch to the buggy. This is what makes it unique and fun. I have to say his plans have been just fantastic and his service has been the best. The design of this buggy is very well thought out, and his drawings are very well detailed. I am hoping to have my first one running by mid May. [smilie=non_banana2:

LilChubby
04-12-2013, 06:54 AM
I'm not sure if your there yet, but when you get there, could you post up some pics of your throttle pedal and cable? I need some ideas. How it attaches, what kind you used, ect. Thanks

mmobley
04-12-2013, 01:17 PM
I got my cables ordered from push-pull out of California so when I get them hooked up I will let you know and take pics.

mmobley
04-15-2013, 09:37 AM
My stainless 60 degree bend showed up Friday so I was able to finish the exhaust Saturday.

mmobley
04-15-2013, 09:53 AM
More exhaust pics. I also burnt the other motor mount to go around the exhaust. I have the SuperTrapp with the discs and am somewhat baffled how the discs work. It looks like the exhaust must come out between the discs? Pinging Jason with the AR 51. How many discs did you use??

mmobley
04-15-2013, 09:59 AM
Started drawing the cut out for my gauge cluster Saturday night. Finished it Sunday so I burnt the dash out of some steel I had.

mmobley
04-22-2013, 09:26 AM
I decide to make my own steel hood out of 14 ga. I know my buggy will be a little heavier but I can live with it. I had the steel on hand so it saved me some coin. Made a plate to hold my gauge cluster in. I have rubber grommets in the hood and ordered SS button heads to fasten it on. The hood and dash are one.

Duane
04-22-2013, 10:23 AM
That looks cool!

mmobley
04-22-2013, 10:40 AM
Thanks Duane! Its fun when you can stray away a bit to add your own personal touch to it.

Trouble675
04-22-2013, 11:44 AM
Looks good! I like it!

mmobley
04-22-2013, 11:49 AM
Thanks Trouble, its amazing how long it can take to do something relatively simple like the hood/dash. It all takes time.

wjfawb0
04-22-2013, 01:28 PM
More exhaust pics. I also burnt the other motor mount to go around the exhaust. I have the SuperTrapp with the discs and am somewhat baffled how the discs work. It looks like the exhaust must come out between the discs? Pinging Jason with the AR 51. How many discs did you use??

I used every disc that came with the supertrapp I bought (10-12). The more discs the more top end horsepower (less restriction). With some motors some people say less discs could equal more low end at the expense of HP. I wanted mine to be quieter than an aftermarket bike exhaust without killing all of the 12,000-16,000 rpm power. The GSXR-750 isn't all that powerful below 8,000rpm.

You are correct, though. The exhaust has to make a 90* turn and exit between the discs to get out. It's a super trap for the exhaust gas. I guess it's somehow related VWs and small engines? I dunno for sure.

mmobley
04-22-2013, 01:30 PM
Thanks Jason. Now I know why they call it "SuperTrapp".

wjfawb0
04-22-2013, 07:21 PM
The real answers are here:

SuperTrapp: Performance Exhausts (http://www.supertrapp.com/company/history.asp)

I do like that people can hear me without going deaf, though.

mmobley
04-23-2013, 05:40 AM
Thanks for the link Jason.

mmobley
04-24-2013, 06:03 AM
I fabricated the upper and lower cockpit panels last night and they fit very well. I drew the parts off of Ricks drawings and they turned out great. I will post more pics soon.

Rat4020
04-24-2013, 06:41 AM
MMobley If it helps ya the rule of thumb with the Super Trapp defuser disks is for every 7hp your motor has you use 1 disk. Then from there ya go by the color of the disks after runin it as far as weather to add or subtract disks

mmobley
04-24-2013, 12:37 PM
Thanks Rat, that is good to know!

CARLRIDDLE
04-26-2013, 05:53 AM
Crap thats gonna be a lot of disc.

You build is looking great, one of the faster more professional builds on here in a while. MOARE PICS. lol

mmobley
04-26-2013, 01:20 PM
Thanks for the compliment.:) I should have moar pics by Monday. I need to get the fuel tank built but before I attempt to tig it I need to get stronger reading glasses! It really sucks when you can't see.:(

Bullnerd
04-26-2013, 01:32 PM
Have you Tried one of the inserts they make for the helmets?Thats what I use.

Duane
04-26-2013, 03:52 PM
I use both!

Pstegs 101
04-26-2013, 05:06 PM
I use both!


nice btw i use none

Duane
04-26-2013, 09:37 PM
those were:rolleyes: the days.

Pstegs 101
04-27-2013, 10:30 AM
those were:rolleyes: the days.

my old man has like 15 pairs of cheater all around our house :p:p

mmobley
04-30-2013, 06:58 AM
At work I have a magnifier in my helmet and also wear my reading glasses but at home I only have my glasses.
I figured I had better update my build thread. About 3 weeks ago I was thrown off my 4 wheeler at about 30 mph. I must have cracked or bruised a bunch of ribs. I am just now able to cough. I haven't felt like working on the buggy by the time I get off work. JW has taken his rolling chassis home to his place where he can work on it at his convenience. He picked up an 06 Yamaha FZ engine...I think that's what it was. My throttle and clutch cables showed up and everything seems to be correct. I will try to remember to take pics. I made my upper and lower cockpit panels and they fit great. I still need to build my gas tank. I have to machine the pump mount plate. I was going to do it this last weekend but my lathe was set up for production parts and Trent was running it so I went to work and our lathe at work was set up to knurl so I said the heck with it and smoked a bunch of jerky and turkey breast and sat on my butt drinking beverages.

Rat4020
04-30-2013, 07:45 AM
Yep a guy gots ta do that once and a while LOL.. Dam fine lookin fixins ya have on the grill:):)

mmobley
04-30-2013, 07:49 AM
I thought about changing the title of my build thread to " Time to man up and at least get one AR51 done". ;)

Pstegs 101
04-30-2013, 07:55 AM
I thought about changing the title of my build thread to " Time to man up and at least get one AR51 done". ;)


stay strong you are almost there keep going

mmobley
04-30-2013, 08:14 AM
I think I can....... I think I can..... I think I can...I think I can.. IthinkIcan! [smilie=ecstatic.gi:

mmobley
05-02-2013, 06:31 AM
I formed my fuel tank last night and it looks to fit together nicely. If I was miggin it I would be tickeled to death with the fit up but I want to tig it and any gap will be a challenge for me.I will practice on some drop and get my heat set to the minimum I need to melt the material and rod. I don't want to end up with a warped mess! I am debating about jumping around with my welds. What do you experienced welders think? Material is .060 stainless and rod is about the same size 1/16". Maybe Rick S. will chime in too.

Pstegs 101
05-02-2013, 08:39 AM
oh i am glad you are finishing up some of it up. It is the last few steps that are the hardest

De-Ranged
05-02-2013, 03:31 PM
I formed my fuel tank last night and it looks to fit together nicely. If I was miggin it I would be tickeled to death with the fit up but I want to tig it and any gap will be a challenge for me.I will practice on some drop and get my heat set to the minimum I need to melt the material and rod. I don't want to end up with a warped mess! I am debating about jumping around with my welds. What do you experienced welders think? Material is .060 stainless and rod is about the same size 1/16". Maybe Rick S. will chime in too.

With 1.5mm (sorry I"m metric lol) you have a lot of resistance to warping if your happy with tig welding and resumbly fast (faster welder means less heat soaking into the work[smilie=wink.gif])then I'd be happy burning that gauge in long runs, so long as the tank is tack welded solidly every 50mm along all seams
If you have doubts about your welding skill get some 5mm lips folded on the edge of the largest sections that lap inside the tank, if you have curves make up a MDF wooden form about about 2mm smaller than you want the final size clamp it on with lots of clamps and hammer form the lip
I also use internal baffles to support large flat tanks to stop warpage [smilie=wink.gif]

Hope this helps

Cheers Reece

mmobley
05-03-2013, 06:17 AM
Well, last night I practiced tig welding then "attempted" to weld the bungs in and found out I can't tig worth a shit! I preheated the bungs with the tig torch and welded about half way around one and stopped to see if it was warping and it was. So, I said the hell with it and migged it. It ended up turning out quite well but I am sure I will probably have some leaks. I am not used to working with thin metals.The bad thing is I just used my regular wire thinking that I am just going to powder coat the tank because I didn't think it would turn out very good and it did! It looks awesome. So, now I can either powder coat it a color or clearcoat it to keep my welded joints from rusting. I will post pics in a few days.

mmobley
05-03-2013, 06:20 AM
With 1.5mm (sorry I"m metric lol) you have a lot of resistance to warping if your happy with tig welding and resumbly fast (faster welder means less heat soaking into the work[smilie=wink.gif])then I'd be happy burning that gauge in long runs, so long as the tank is tack welded solidly every 50mm along all seams
If you have doubts about your welding skill get some 5mm lips folded on the edge of the largest sections that lap inside the tank, if you have curves make up a MDF wooden form about about 2mm smaller than you want the final size clamp it on with lots of clamps and hammer form the lip
I also use internal baffles to support large flat tanks to stop warpage [smilie=wink.gif]

Hope this helps



Cheers Reece

Thanks, Reece. I believe I am not fast enough or skilled enough. But, thanks for your input. Its like I know what to do but my skill tig welding is not good enough.
thanks, Mitch

Bullnerd
05-03-2013, 07:13 AM
Heres my tig welding tips.I'm terrible too but I have to at least try to help.

Stay calm.
Relax.
Concentrate on breathing evenly.
Practice your feed technique.To me torch control is cake.Keeping up with the feeder hand is the trick between clean consistent beads and short jerky ones.
Stick with it,its worth it.

mmobley
05-06-2013, 06:37 AM
I machined the fuel pump flange plate Saturday. Everything fits like it should. Here are some pics of the tank and the flange. Once I determine the proper orientation of the pump in the tank I will weld the flange plate on. Then I will make a plate to cover the opening and fill the tank with water to see how many leaks I have.

Pstegs 101
05-06-2013, 12:51 PM
that looks really good nice job

mmobley
05-21-2013, 10:19 AM
Not much progress to report, I hope to get going on the battery box electrical enclosure soon. I smoked 35 lbs. of turkey, 40 lbs. of brisket and 12 lbs. of jerky for my son's graduation party last Sunday. We had the buggy there to show friends, relatives what he has been working on and it was the focal point of the graduation. Here are a couple of pics I took before we loaded it up.

wjfawb0
05-21-2013, 11:46 AM
That looks very familiar to me. :D Looks great.

daaboots
05-21-2013, 12:25 PM
Ah yeah, looks great!

Bullnerd
05-21-2013, 01:47 PM
Congrats lil-Mobley! (for graduating)

Duane
05-21-2013, 04:08 PM
Looks real good. Sure the meats were very tasty.I enjoy giving big partys too. Do you live on a golf course? If so then I'm coming to visit!

Pstegs 101
05-21-2013, 04:39 PM
they look almost done [smilie=ecstatic.gi:[smilie=ecstatic.gi: cant wait for a test drive :):)

Trouble675
05-21-2013, 05:31 PM
Nice!

mmobley
05-22-2013, 08:27 AM
The meat was super and no I don't live on a golf course. It was a relief to see him graduate as he has a bit of a wild side to him and he had me worried for a while. Can't wait for things to get back to normal so I can kick ass on the last chapter of this build. I want to have this first one finished by August and am going to save my second one for this winters project. thanks, Mitch

Bullnerd
05-22-2013, 10:29 AM
I thought of your cooker when I saw these. Had them on my computer for some reason .Its a mailbox.(duh)

ErwinBnl
05-22-2013, 10:44 AM
What a awesome buggy! [smilie=ecstatic.gi:
Can't wait to see more video's and photo's.. even if I've already saw many of them in topics from RickS and others :p

ProtoDie
05-22-2013, 02:58 PM
I thought of your cooker when I saw these. Had them on my computer for some reason .Its a mailbox.(duh)


I would scared as hell if I was the mail man delivering for the 1st time.

Pstegs 101
05-22-2013, 04:00 PM
yeah it scared me just lookin at it:p

ErwinBnl
05-22-2013, 05:11 PM
Haha wow!
Didn't see the photo's of the mailbox when I posted my previous reply, Bullnerd placed that post before I confirmed my post after a while..

But réally awesome![smilie=ecstatic.gi: The barrel hole is nice also, it looks like a deep hole. Thanks for sharing!

Bullnerd
05-22-2013, 07:33 PM
I would scared as hell if I was the mail man delivering for the 1st time.

Yeah,I dont think I could ever get used to that.I'd be ducking every time.

BTW..heres the thread I found the pics in.Pretty long,mostly about metal shaping.

http://www.offroadfabnet.com/forums/showpost.php?p=91650&postcount=142

mmobley
05-24-2013, 08:12 AM
I had seen that mailbox before. It is one of the few I have seen that actually look scaled correctly. There are some really crappy looking smokers on the net that look like a revolver. The scaling was all messed up and the way they mounted them on a trailer sucked.

3ohEight
05-26-2013, 05:11 PM
Very nice build. I just got plans from Rick the other day. Your thread has been very helpfull. I have went through it several times.

mmobley
05-29-2013, 07:39 AM
Thanks for the compliment. I need to get my butt in gear and continue to make progress. My personal life has been pretty hectic to say the least.

Pstegs 101
05-29-2013, 07:41 AM
i think every one has to get their but in gear :p

wjfawb0
05-29-2013, 08:21 AM
I've been riding my AR51 every other weekend lately. It's an awesome design, because the only regular maintenance is a pressure wash and chain lube. You'll really enjoy the first one when it's complete, and then you'll want two so you can share in the fun. ;)

mmobley
05-29-2013, 02:22 PM
Thanks Jason, that helps inspire me even more. I put my second one away in storage over the weekend with the idea to finish the first one by mid August then over the winter finish the second one.

mmobley
06-10-2013, 05:55 AM
I finally had time to work on the buggy this weekend. I installed the fuel pump in the tank, extended the harness and made a fuel line. Bought a battery and hooked it up and it fired right up! So now I am extending the gauge cluster harness to reach the dash. I also ordered an inline fuel filter. The battery I bought is too big to fit in the space I have so I will have to get a smaller one. It was a great feeling to hear it run!

mmobley
08-20-2013, 09:59 AM
Wow been a couple of months since I touched the buggy! I mounted the radiator in last night and fabbed the upper radiator mount. Felt good to work on it again. It seemed like this last winter I had all kinds of free time to work on it. This summer has been pretty busy.

mmobley
08-20-2013, 10:19 AM
Attached are a couple pics of the radiator. I do have the electrical enclosure fabbed with the battery sitting in it.

CARLRIDDLE
08-20-2013, 11:18 AM
Is the top mount just temp? I know everyone say not to hard mount rad, but thats a little too much flex. LOL

Life gets in the of playing, just have to find a balance. Looks good.

mmobley
08-20-2013, 12:14 PM
The radiator is secured on the bottom with 2 rubber bushings and held on the top with one rubber bushing. The material I used to secure the top was 7 ga. with a bend in it. It will be plenty secure. I believe this is the way Rick S. does it.
Yes, I always struggle to balance and prioritize my life. For me it usually all work and very little play. The buggy will change that. Thanks for the compliment Carl.

CARLRIDDLE
08-20-2013, 02:54 PM
I see the top mount now. I only spotted the yellow bungy cord. LOL

RickS.
08-20-2013, 03:26 PM
Hey Mitch I will dig out the Gates hose numbers for your rad. inlet and outlets.
Spent a lot of time picking out the right ones.
These will get you below the mid rail where you can reduce down.

mmobley
08-21-2013, 06:06 AM
Rick, that would be fantastic. I was dreading going to the parts store to sift through their inventory. This will help out a lot.
thanks again, Mitch

mmobley
08-21-2013, 06:07 AM
Carl, now I understand what you meant when you questioned the upper mount. Yes the bungy cord is temporary.

mmobley
09-17-2013, 07:45 AM
I have finally plumbed the radiator and mounted the overflow. I have yet to find the right size hose to go from the radiator to the overflow in black. I can find the right size in a variety of colors except black. I will keep looking. I drew up the revised motor mount to include a hole to mount the idler sprocket in order to redirect my chain. After reading about Rick throwing a chain I am thinking about getting the riveted type link. I ordered lights from Jegs and they will be here Friday. I hope to have it running by the end of the month. Then strip it down and paint it...then assemble.

Trouble675
09-17-2013, 08:14 AM
Nice work!

sodman
09-17-2013, 08:20 AM
Looking good great to see ya back at it Mitch. I finally got back to working on mine again small jobs seem to take the most time would like to have mine ready for paint this fall but time will tell. My son is pushing real hard to get it done so we'll have two buggies to cruze around on.

mmobley
09-17-2013, 08:32 AM
2 buggies to cruise together is my goal.

Bullnerd
09-17-2013, 09:07 AM
Why not use the same fitting and hose like in the second pic?

sodman
09-17-2013, 09:15 AM
I should have asked on the last post I made what are you using for a overflow bottle ? One from the bike or something else ? That's one more thing on my to do list just don't know what to use. The one from the sled is a inline bottle with a drain tube I would have to mount at the same height as the rad cap. Not sure if I want to use it any other suggestions would be great.

mmobley
09-17-2013, 11:45 AM
Why not use the same fitting and hose like in the second pic?
That is a pretty stiff fuel line that would work but I already drilled and put a grommet in for the 10 mm od line.

mmobley
09-17-2013, 11:53 AM
I should have asked on the last post I made what are you using for a overflow bottle ? One from the bike or something else ? That's one more thing on my to do list just don't know what to use. The one from the sled is a inline bottle with a drain tube I would have to mount at the same height as the rad cap. Not sure if I want to use it any other suggestions would be great.

My motor sits approx. 2-1/2" higher than Rick and Jason's due to my header, I believe. The overflow bottle that came with the bike motor wouldn't fit because it was too tall to fit in my electrical enclosure. I gambled and ordered one off ebay that looked shorter and fatter and I lucked out, It fits. It was off an 07 GSXR 1000. The space I have for all of my electrical components including battery and overflow bottle is about the size of a loaf of bread. Kinda reminds me of that song, "She cranks my tractor" where he says " she's ten pounds of sugar in a 5 pound sack". The components are packed in tight.

mmobley
09-18-2013, 02:13 PM
I wasn't sure where to post this question so I will just ask in my build thread. I have a heat shield between my header and seat. My question is do I need some sort of insulating heat shield material to fasten to the steel heat shield? I am going to guess now and measure tonight but my guess is I have about 6" from header to steel heat shield.
thanks, Mitch

Rat4020
09-18-2013, 02:23 PM
I wasn't sure where to post this question so I will just ask in my build thread. I have a heat shield between my header and seat. My question is do I need some sort of insulating heat shield material to fasten to the steel heat shield? I am going to guess now and measure tonight but my guess is I have about 6" from header to steel heat shield.
thanks, Mitch

My orginal heat shield had some sorta fiber sheet on it But the ones Ive added since dont have any and are no problem .. And if your 6" away I dont figure yull have a problem . P.S. why are ya makin yer shield outa steel . AL disapaties heat a lot better than steel and is a lot lighter

Trouble675
09-18-2013, 06:32 PM
I plan on using something like this on mine. Is that what you were thinking Mitch?


http://www.summitracing.com/parts/the-16850/media?rtype=10

mmobley
09-19-2013, 06:23 AM
My orginal heat shield had some sorta fiber sheet on it But the ones Ive added since dont have any and are no problem .. And if your 6" away I dont figure yull have a problem . P.S. why are ya makin yer shield outa steel . AL disapaties heat a lot better than steel and is a lot lighter

Good point I will probably switch to aluminum. I guess my seat is about 6" from the header and my heat shield is about 2" away.

mmobley
09-19-2013, 06:24 AM
I plan on using something like this on mine. Is that what you were thinking Mitch?


http://www.summitracing.com/parts/the-16850/media?rtype=10

Yes that was what I was considering.

mmobley
09-20-2013, 06:21 AM
I had to add an idler sprocket due to my chain interfering with the countershaft sprocket cover. I incorporated the mounting hole into my motor mount. This is the third time I have modified the mount. I also reworked my shift linkage mount.

wjfawb0
09-20-2013, 06:40 AM
I installed a sheet of .040" thick aluminum from the top motor mount bar down to the floor tube parallel with my main roll hoop. I get some rpm resonance at a few speeds because it's flat, but it has worked well keeping my seat from being warmed by radiated heat from the header. I have gaps on either side of the vertical heat shield to allow air in for cooling while underway. I don't have any good pictures of it, but it works well and took 30 minutes to install before my first big trip in the buggy. It allows me to shove a small tool bag between the rear of the seat and the shield too. Maybe one day I'll remove it and use a dimple die set or something to stiffen it against vibration.

mmobley
09-20-2013, 06:56 AM
Thanks for the info. I thought about incorporating a couple bends into the heat shield to eliminate that vibration.

RickS.
09-20-2013, 09:40 AM
If you have a poly seat just install riiv-nuts and use 3/8 long sleeve spacers.
.04-.06 aluminum plate with the 3/8 gap is plenty.

LilChubby
09-25-2013, 06:54 AM
Would you mind posting up the part numbers for the rad hoses? I'm using the same radiator.

RickS.
09-25-2013, 10:44 AM
Would you mind posting up the part numbers for the rad hoses? I'm using the same radiator.

Upper is Gates # 22263
Lower is Gates # 21508

LilChubby
09-25-2013, 01:25 PM
Thanks Rick.

mmobley
09-30-2013, 06:05 AM
I made a little progress over the weekend. But like I have said recently, I cross one thing off of my list and think of two others to add. I have all my seat belt mounts in, my heat shield installed, running lights installed, and tail light/brake light mounted.