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Large
05-04-2012, 05:45 PM
Hi guys I've finally got around to starting on my AR51 build. I was going to build a Piranha, but after looking at all the mods I'd have to do, and a few emails back and forth with RickS, I decided on an AR51.

I've had the plans for a few months, but I've had to make a table for my 1940s lathe that's getting wired up today and a new belt fitted.

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16045/160457691673068b143c5ef9268890da56c75b75.jpg

Also bought myself a drill press

http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16045/16045780e206b540119ec6f93996fc8a327bceb0.jpg

Large
05-04-2012, 05:50 PM
For an engine I have a choice between a TLR1000

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16045/160458020350b005e9bd699596eababd97ecf5c3.jpg

Or a GSX1400

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16045/16045801ae0a2694494c3b038203983115c4a478.jpg

I'm leaning towards the TLR, if only for the V twin soundtrack, but the GSX has serious torque and doesn't need to rev like a GSXR to make power.

On the downside the GSX is air/oil cooled so getting enough air in to keep the motor cool might be a problem

Large
05-04-2012, 06:01 PM
I made a seat for the Piranha, that might go into the AR51

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16045/16045807fb58d9d55e76c60c37e093eedf223e66.jpg

And finally, I've made a start on cutting some tube.

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16045/16045815a76225eebbe8f03362458319ba222c08.jpg

It's not a lot, but I should have all the front end tubes cut today- once I get my head around all the inches to mm conversions.

I must say, Rick's plans really are well thought out and easy to decipher and having wjfawb0's and Sodmans threads to follow will make the build easier.

I'm off do do some cutting and drilling and hopefully a bit of welding.

Glock n Ballz
05-04-2012, 08:20 PM
[quote=Large;237420]For an engine I have a choice between a TLR1000

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16045/160458020350b005e9bd699596eababd97ecf5c3.jpg


GO WITH THE TL MATE!!!!

Chikin
05-04-2012, 08:32 PM
Yeah my vote would be the TL as well.... My brother had one... and well awesome bike to ride... Because of the low end power. And standing behind the bike you get this pulsating in both ears and it will mess with your head, but you'll never forget that moment (Shit sounds like some thing on a Hallmark Christmas card!!)

If you have ever been behind one you'll know what I mean. Any street bike Fan will know what I mean.

Crosskill
05-04-2012, 08:35 PM
I just got my AR51 plans and have started to get my head around them. A quick glance doesn't cut it. i have a few projects to finish and get my shop transitioned from wood before I go get the steel. I'll be following!

Large
05-05-2012, 01:04 AM
Thanks for the replies guys.

I've got a TLR motored custom bike, so I know and love the sound, but the stump pulling torque of the GSX means I wont write it off as a choice yet.

I spent the afternoon cutting all the front end tube and sorting out the laser cut brackets, so now I've got a kit of parts.

http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16047/1604726029b93725a45d32900521f097b8c1f2dc.jpg

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16047/16047268f497615d007895e230e9b17d0e4132c0.jpg

Going to fire up the welder tomorrow and get the sub assemblies tacked up.

As a bonus, it appears this trailer parked behind my place is dumped. It's got rust, but the frame is ~ 3m by 1.8 m, which is just about perfect for dragging a buggy around.

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16047/160472898815edca5c6d0129b33851e1a370c595.jpg

sodman
05-05-2012, 10:41 AM
Good luck with the build there Large . There seems to be a few of us putting these AR-51 together . The plans are great and Rick is good with helping you along the way when you run into questions. It's looking like mine will be 6 inches longer than the plan calls for due to my engine choice but Rick thinks it doable. So I'll just plug a way on it when I have time . Keep us all posted on your progress
Sodman

Large
05-06-2012, 01:46 AM
Good luck with the build there Large . There seems to be a few of us putting these AR-51 together . The plans are great and Rick is good with helping you along the way when you run into questions. It's looking like mine will be 6 inches longer than the plan calls for due to my engine choice but Rick thinks it doable. So I'll just plug a way on it when I have time . Keep us all posted on your progress
Sodman

Thanks sodman. You're right about the plans and as for help, I'm wondering when Rick sleeps. With the time difference, I'm sure he's replying to my emails after midnight his time.

Large
05-06-2012, 01:56 AM
I fired up the tig today and got most of the front tubes tacked up. A couple of times I thought I'd found a mistake in the plans...but it was just me not reading something right. I'm really enjoying this- it's like a big model kit.

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16051/160518346f4077dc06880e5f5efe6d7c596e6487.jpg

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16051/160518130ca937099a0685b2ffb33545c5cc44c1.jpg

Couldn't help myself setting up the tubes to see how they lined up.

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16051/160518115383175d330cd0dc30dcf7e13a184f0b.jpg

BLUERACER
05-06-2012, 07:54 AM
[quote=Large;237420]For an engine I have a choice between a TLR1000

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16045/160458020350b005e9bd699596eababd97ecf5c3.jpg


GO WITH THE TL MATE!!!!
I'm with Glock, I have one it's mean. Besides the air cool will over heat.

rob8420
05-06-2012, 11:50 AM
Yep i would also chose the TL beast of a motor and reliable

Air cooled motors can be a headache:mad:

Large
05-17-2012, 01:28 AM
I got a care package from Rick this week with the steering rack and associated parts..(sorry for the crappy pic, but Rick packs the goods really well- there's a steering rack and tie rads and column/mounts/bearings plus a few chassis plates in there).

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16100/161008645a1288f6ec6b717f5dc4191b980d1acf.jpg

..that allowed me to line up the nose section and tack it..

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16100/161008696a32f3579e00bc008e836336bd27d4cd.jpg

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16100/16100870aba7bab108dd0c1f1b6fb0062ee51561.jpg

I'm starting to think I might borrow a Mig for the harder to reach parts.

Large
05-17-2012, 01:38 AM
Meanwhile I've made a load of tap plates

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16100/1610088869ad8ee9201383996318df24b95b79d2.jpg

And drilled the lower frame rails to weld them in place. Ive been converting AF/Imperial taps to metric as I go, but it seems the good seatbelt fittings are still AF/Imperial

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16100/16100897a4d1029ce013119c06bdf9f00333491d.jpg

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16100/161009025a261f6a9e8efabfc14cf030e6c5f210.jpg

Large
05-17-2012, 01:53 AM
Here's where I veer from the script a little.

6 months ago I was going to build a Piranha. I got to the stage that I bought a chassis kit from Edge, I'd made the rear arms, bought front hubs/brakes and I'd got a local fabricator to make me the main rollbar 80mm wider at the hip and 50mm wider at the base than a Piranha rollbar. But then I got to emailing Doug Heim for parts...who put me onto Rick...who introduced me to a better way to travel in a buggy.

So I have this rollbar in 1 1/2" Dom that I plan to use.

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16100/161009090f979c876a68c3ec150465e9fce3f980.jpg

It's about 2' narrower at the hip than the AR51 specs, so I'll gusset it to the upper frame rail instead of notching it in. I'm also thinking I'll make the front rollbar and top and rear tubes out of the same 1 1/2 tubing.

I also ordered a Tube bender with the degree wheel and 1 1/4 and 1 1/2 dies today-

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pro-Tools-MB105-tube-pipe-bender-Made-USA-/290712604182?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item43afd24e16#shId

I've already got a backlog of jobs from three of my neighbours

daaboots
05-17-2012, 07:57 PM
Nice work. That little go-cart must haul!

Large
05-18-2012, 04:19 AM
Yeah it's a bit of fun. CBR600RRRR motor in a Zip Superkart frame with R1 brakes. It was a bit too low and flexible at first, but I welded in a second frame rail and it's sweet-

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Large
05-18-2012, 04:23 AM
Anywho, spent the afternoon sorting out the factory and mounting the bender- don't they take some room.

Still waiting for the dom tube to be available so I'll get some more welding done tomorrow.

mudd
05-19-2012, 07:40 AM
That cart is insane!:eek:

Large
05-20-2012, 07:51 PM
Got the bender setup and did a practice bend on some alloy tube, still waiting for dom tube for my frame and suspension-

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16114/1611474166e937f45f19141f8919a21ea84e066f.jpg

Large
05-20-2012, 07:55 PM
Spent yesterday tacking most of the front end-

http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16114/161147492f5539fd57e1879296e78418653a916c.jpg

Got a bit carried away on the front shock mounts-

'http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16114/16114759792affeeb510716ce53676440e7a3d53.jpg

But it all seems to line up ok-

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16114/16114760c661e208a01e942f36414c56a0d57942.jpg

Starting on the main frame this week.

reidy01
05-21-2012, 04:10 AM
Buggy's looking good mate the seat however it looks a little how ya going, not trying to be a smart arse.;) I've got one I cut out on my CNC table I was gonna put it on ebay but you can have it for a reasonable price if you like. You can email me at reidydl01@gmail.com my name is Dave.:cool: It's 3mm aluminum I can send you a pic if you like or I can try and post one here? Let me know if you are interested. Ah I'm in the Blue Mts so not too far from you.

Large
06-06-2012, 02:39 AM
Haven't posted for a week or two, but been getting things done.

Got the main frame tacked and welded up-

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16181/16181577660c28608a1c69a2590e568f7ac5cfd8.jpg

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16181/16181580c7a005d9732c5664ada4b6621f881e13.jpg

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16181/16181582eec88c180c32d22489aa8eb973e561b4.jpg

Large
06-06-2012, 02:49 AM
I finally got most of my round tube last week. I was having trouble getting the DOM in the specced sizes and wall thicknesses, so I've gone with chromoly tube. Apparently it's x% stronger than DOM so I can use x% smaller wall tubing...except for the bits that I need to fit bungs into so I bought thicker wall and machined them down. Anywho, I also got a piece of 400mm x 700mm x 6mm plate for the arm jig and I've started on my front arms-

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16181/1618159793d6e106f665074d71fd43f97aeb347e.jpg

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16181/16181593a9d05d0c2e6612d7b113623a978f3be9.jpg

Large
06-06-2012, 02:53 AM
While I'm at it, I'll introduce you to my quality control expert-

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16181/1618160672b6dad9b3f01c88ad6ae1fdf432d2a8.jpg

She doesn't say much, but she has a way of letting me know if something needs doing again.:D

TALON
06-06-2012, 06:18 AM
Coming along nice there Large,where or what type driving will you be doing around yor way?
Nice dog to,blue staff ?
I have a friend with a male,and it nearly knocks me on my ass every time I visit ,it is one chunky unit.

TheDoc
06-06-2012, 03:11 PM
The seat looks like the one from Bob aka Rorty site. Once you pad that up it will look OK.
If you dont mind where did you order the bender from and did it come with the stand. Did you get it in Oz or from USA?
What did it set you back with shipping?

Large
06-06-2012, 04:17 PM
The seat looks like the one from Bob aka Rorty site. Once you pad that up it will look OK.
If you dont mind where did you order the bender from and did it come with the stand. Did you get it in Oz or from USA?
What did it set you back with shipping?

Yeah it's the rorty seat- about 50mm wider than the plans. I'm probably going to put a poly seat it it anyway.

The bender and dies were from Queensland off Ebay. Do a search for "tube die" and you'll find a user called laserkit. He imports the Pro tools bender. No stand, but came with the mounting plates, so I just had to buy a 75x75 square and weld them together.
PM sent

Large
06-06-2012, 04:35 PM
Coming along nice there Large,where or what type driving will you be doing around yor way?
Nice dog to,blue staff ?
I have a friend with a male,and it nearly knocks me on my ass every time I visit ,it is one chunky unit.

I've got a couple of mates with properties out past Bathurst and down Goulburn way for messing around. As for racing, I've been checking what the guys on the Edge forums are doing with the sorra guys at Colo

Sorra Home (http://sorra.offroadracing.com.au/)

Yeah she's a blue staffie, just over 2 so still a puppy really, and a real sook even though those jaws demolish bones in no time.

TALON
06-06-2012, 06:32 PM
There has been a couple of blokes from Bathurst come down and race a couple of our TORC rounds,had a very nice cuda,i think they also ran with the bigger buggies in NSW. That area would be awsome for a bug.They used to have a round of the four stroke nationals there and at Picton ,I used to love the racing up that way,beautifull area .

I know what you mean about jaw power .Frank,my friends dog carries a bowling ball in his mouth,somehow gets his teeth in the finger holes and picks it up ,but he cant now ,he has rounded the hole edges and cant grip it so he just pushes it around now.

TheDoc
06-06-2012, 09:58 PM
Yeah it's the rorty seat- about 50mm wider than the plans. I'm probably going to put a poly seat it it anyway.

The bender and dies were from Queensland off Ebay. Do a search for "tube die" and you'll find a user called laserkit. He imports the Pro tools bender. No stand, but came with the mounting plates, so I just had to buy a 75x75 square and weld them together.
PM sent

Thanks for the info, I like the dexion work bench, I made one up at work with 2" x 6" oregon beams for the top. But I had to leave it there. Bugger.
That TL will sound nice when finished.

Large
06-09-2012, 05:10 AM
I was going to buy a tube notcher thingy and do all my front suspension tubes in the drill press, but my mate offered me the use of his bridgeport mill, which made the job easy-

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16195/161953420781ecbfd223cff1ae4864f3a65c127f.jpg


http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16195/161953446706e20e00d675bef9117197ce862ee9.jpg

Although the first brand of hole saw I bought didn't last even 3 cuts-

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16195/16195345c6949fd32f0fac2f469e81ac03825369.jpg

Large
06-17-2012, 01:30 AM
Finally got my first go at the lathe and turned up some front arm bits last week.

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16227/16227919851767c3c503da562c785458c146af43.jpg


Progress has been slowed a bit by having to go to work 3-4 days a week instead of my usual 2, and I've been fartarsing around with the A arm jig for a week or so and only finished it today. Took a while to get the measurements right- "measure twice drill once" and source the inch sizes instead of metric that's so close in some instances, but so far out in other more critical cases.

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16227/1622788746e8033de9adf6565b6ebff20f69635a.jpg

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16227/16227941af9c903e54426bb834e156a4ddd2614c.jpg

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16227/16227948bc2f0544547abc921a211181968478b6.jpg

AR51 builders might recognise a coupla shortcuts I've taken ;)

Large
06-17-2012, 01:45 AM
I doubt I could ever work on a production line- In the time it took me to drill 50ish holes, cut and bend some plate and bolt it all together, the dog/quality control expert reduced a 14" bone to less than half the size.

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16228/16228006bc04134b3cb3b593d3358770fbabbbdd.jpg

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16228/16228008513148582e9d7ff66efd1e102ae1ee4d.jpg

I reckon she's sleeping outside tonight

Large
06-25-2012, 05:08 AM
Got the rear arms jigged and tacked up

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16264/162648531507c49f382c63a7230ba5cd0fe3a8c9.jpg

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16264/16264859148e0d0541e3b9309b580141ffc66a17.jpg

And finished welding them last night.

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16264/1626486167ca1cae56be3afeea9a4fc4cbed2848.jpg

My tigging is a bit hit and miss- I can get straight runs ok, but still working on curves.

The welds look like they're penetrating ok through the .120" wall so should be strong....I guess we'll find out after the first big jump.

TheDoc
06-25-2012, 11:36 AM
Damn that looks like my old machine I sold last August, does it have the slotting head on the back side?

Large
07-03-2012, 05:52 AM
Damn that looks like my old machine I sold last August, does it have the slotting head on the back side?

I have no idea what you're talking about, but apparently it doesn't :)

Large
07-03-2012, 05:56 AM
So I got the front arms welded up on the weekend

http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16301/16301096e997b23f25799ced86040a8877b6ed0e.jpg

And it looks like Christmas in July here now my rear Fox's have turned up.

http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16301/16301099d1f3a216c4d0f70450ccc4d0782af725.jpg

Tappet Head
07-10-2012, 02:38 AM
Nice shocks man, were did you end up sourcing them? I got to order mine for the ST4 soon.

Large
07-11-2012, 12:05 AM
I got them from Off Road Warehouse. They're Fox Air 2.0s

Off Road Warehouse - Shocks (http://www.offroadwarehouse.com/products/sfID1/12)

Incidently, I got the front shocks today. I bought them as pairs to avoid GST etc. But really I blame it on the carbon tax.

Large
09-13-2012, 06:08 AM
I haven't posted much, but I've been getting a few bits done and collecting a load of parts.

I sold my CBR600 Kart, so I've now got an assembly bench to work on.

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16602/1660257336bc4e6ed183409fc618e90893de268d.jpg

Then I was looking back through the plans, and I remembered that my 1-1/2 main frame tubes were only 2mm (.083") instead of the ~2.5mm or .109" specced for racing hereabouts.

At the time I was sourcing tube, I could only find the 1-1/2 in the thinner wall- unless I went with Chromoly and paid a heap more. I'd justified my decision on the fact that a lighter buggy would fly further and Colin Chapman made some nice cars go very fast by removing weight, rather than adding power.

Then I had another look at the plans and decided the mid frame/hip rail would not only be taking all the loadings from the front suspension, but it would also be relied on the keep the motor out of my back in a sudden stop...so I rebuilt it in 40mmx 2.5mm

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16602/166025794a09481af1a6bbf0412b8a7446bba62f.jpg

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16602/16602601747e472aeaaee20accfcf80c2ee3b2ae.jpg

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16602/16602603a6b50edaef6d259c306ff248660121d5.jpg

Large
09-13-2012, 06:16 AM
Been getting a bit done on the pedals and pedal boxes

http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16602/1660261391ff63282a32332162774cf54c99e34b.jpg


I've also been getting a few care packages from RickS

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16602/16602606fda2c32c6680b0c486853077f56a1560.jpg

Got a couple of nice packages from Pacific Customs... who were happy to deal with OS orders.

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16602/16602627d144ce868d1cda2816966e60903f7f04.jpg

http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16602/166026285965464811b71d339d1749e65a7d9ced.jpg

Large
09-13-2012, 06:23 AM
Spent last weekend at a mates place which is hopefully going to be the test track.

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16602/166026353cf1b60f9a16275076a036b4b1b042f0.jpg

It's up past Bathurst and Blayney, near Woodstock NSW and looks over Lake Wyangala.

He's got about 80 acres, with access to 100's more, and the surface looks just slippery enough to be fun.

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16602/166026772ad2327e7ed675e87c6c8d18a020e498.jpg

Deranged
09-13-2012, 07:10 AM
Oh yeah! Looks like Christmas in September! It is a good motivator to have a pile of parts waiting for you. Keep us posted.

Large
09-26-2012, 02:35 AM
I work casual, when it's quiet it''s 2 days a week. Right now it's super busy so it's 5-6 days a week so I have money for buggy parts, but no time to build.

I finished up the pedals and pedal boxes on Sunday, then got into the rear housing.

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16662/16662213f8f82b63bb49aae761824e3ecde2bed8.jpg

http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16662/16662217a746618ad96df49b7efa89de2f196754.jpg

Large
09-26-2012, 02:38 AM
http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16662/166622304ba9e79cd92ae0dffc7d8f6c245b2d17.jpg

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16662/166622323bda6c8fefe0c3b7500f13dcef0c573d.jpg

Glock n Ballz
09-26-2012, 05:06 AM
Large,

Oh man! My tail is starting to wag on your behalf sir. I think its cool that there will be an AR-51 in Australia! Good for you! I am quietly watching your build and I am very excited for you and anxious to see you meet the end of your project.
I wish you the very best of luck!

BIG ups for Large.

Large
10-29-2012, 02:00 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys.

I got a bit more done on the weekend. Did my first bends.

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16827/16827957526517993293662e21b72146ddeac387.jpg

Got the rear end tacked together

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16827/1682796007216d2b8daed2a74d693ffeb7d223e3.jpg

And put it all together to get an idea of size

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16827/16827963da0229ac45a2c0e76eb1d844e03ba2b8.jpg

ironknot
10-29-2012, 06:50 PM
Looking good and starting to take shape. That axle/bearing carrier is a sweet combo.

How would you rate the bender for a first time user, once set up were there any surprises like spring back or ?

Did you get the seat in Oz it looks light.

wjfawb0
10-29-2012, 08:57 PM
Seat looks like a Jaz products turbo pro just like mine. They are light. Mine came out of California, USA, I think.

Large
10-30-2012, 05:30 AM
Seat looks like a Jaz products turbo pro just like mine. They are light. Mine came out of California, USA, I think.

That's the one. Turns out that old mate out the back has an account with the importer.

Large
11-14-2012, 03:33 AM
Got a day off work so me and a mate got the basic frame tacked together

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16899/16899306fc2e36860a4fdbcc66908419d91d7cf4.jpg

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16899/168993079493b6cd77e892a6729de2226c3e6b67.jpg

Large
11-14-2012, 03:36 AM
http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16899/16899310dacb0f39e5053da05a9591e4456c98b2.jpg

Couldn't help myself so put the seat in and got the mandatory Vroom Vroom pic, but not posting that one

chuckorlando
11-14-2012, 05:58 AM
Nice work bubba. It's looking nice as does your work in general

Rat4020
11-14-2012, 06:11 AM
Looks like your off to a great start. I didnt read past posts but what motor were ya planin on using

daaboots
11-14-2012, 06:43 AM
Couldn't help myself so put the seat in and got the mandatory Vroom Vroom pic, but not posting that one

It's actually mandatory around here that you post the "vroom vroom" pic :p

custom39
11-14-2012, 08:46 AM
It's actually mandatory around here that you post the "vroom vroom" pic :p


I second that!!
need the vroooooom pic!
You get extra points if ya tounge is sticking out making motor noise!

Trouble675
11-14-2012, 09:55 AM
I just got my AR51 plans and have started to get my head around them. A quick glance doesn't cut it. i have a few projects to finish and get my shop transitioned from wood before I go get the steel. I'll be following!

I'm in the same boat! I'll be following as well.

Large
11-22-2012, 02:26 PM
Looks like your off to a great start. I didnt read past posts but what motor were ya planin on using

I'm still tossing up between a GSX1400 or a TLR1000...

I went out to SORRA ( http://sorra.offroadracing.com.au/ ) ast week to watch the NSW Championships and talk to some officials about competing and get some Rules/Regs


http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16936/16936250f655952a7f28b8725d016de0e94ad17c.jpg

Large
11-22-2012, 02:30 PM
I had yesterday off, so decided to rebend the main hoop in 4130 to match the rest of the cage. Got the front hoop and rear bars bent up too. Also spent a pleasant hour grinding the hip rail to fit the main hoop as per the plans

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16936/16936254151aa7e5af1e9369fe825eb44f927ae9.jpg

http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16936/16936256d35f82d82efb02bbc9ad7b5e5486112a.jpg

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16936/169362573df28f40654394d84fc6274381a9c183.jpg

Starting to look a bit like a buggy now.

Large
11-29-2012, 03:30 AM
Just had two days off so got the roll cage tacked together to the rest of the frame enough so I I'll be able to roll it all over and finish some welds.

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16964/1696424070bb576ed728e0454fccf51adf4fb59c.jpg

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16964/16964258c431f646b6037e115245230d9579ee40.jpg

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16964/16964268a9febad88955d6429e04bec36d694750.jpg

I'll probably not fully weld the rear uprights until I work out the motor mounts so I can just drop the plant in and out easily.

Large
11-29-2012, 03:34 AM
Also mounted the pedal boxes and "adjusted" the shock mount till it finally fitted correctly

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16964/16964289af8f6300e2f5928140b70b2caa606fe3.jpg

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16964/16964292c33d57df9c949aa2429e328856d97d05.jpg

http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16964/16964296113f1b3a01077d6d295c978ee64ecef9.jpg

Large
11-29-2012, 03:44 AM
Test fitted the front suspension

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16964/1696432414a0c32701a685dcdd7f97ecd537ece3.jpg

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16964/169643257db740d9226e54d32e4cacf1cf2c06f5.jpg

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16964/16964329a90d38973e12d37b03d64018951a4dba.jpg

Looks pretty cool methinks.

daaboots
11-29-2012, 11:33 AM
Looking great!

Trouble675
11-29-2012, 06:35 PM
It's coming along nicely! Good job!

Large
12-04-2012, 03:55 AM
Thanks guys, I'm enjoying this build too.


Roll me over.

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16988/1698818402d23a198abd4b6ad93878915cfc8b3b.jpg

In the clover.

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16988/16988199a184f2588df2b70809d9a409cc9d6e3f.jpg

Roll me over lay me down,

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16988/16988208dc2c25b40b121b1c0b8fe65f2e4d686b.jpg

and do it again.

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16988/1698822494c548d5c900071370ae3f202fe010a3.jpg

Large
12-04-2012, 04:04 AM
Power is nothing without control.

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16988/16988229aa6f85ff92d734aec7e7c7ae7f047f29.jpg

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16988/169882304f337549741f994d4d5f4df69ea4fc53.jpg

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16988/169882325e798c4ddbf3ac6c0ecfa250554fa592.jpg

http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16988/16988234b25771485e87f1a5a9c34d8be7ad9d3f.jpg

Large
12-04-2012, 04:27 AM
Not much room left in the shed right now.

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16988/16988241f3c494a99d3b35f6141181997df81062.jpg

Should be ok if I throw the plant from this into the AR though.

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16988/1698824656803ba0b8e412c191a9d0e62e718e38.jpg

2008 Suzuki GSX1400

1402cc/106hp/126Nm- so it should shred tyres nicely.

Methinks I might invest in beadlocks

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16988/1698831368e7f19a88e4648454007dae94889aec.gif

custom39
12-04-2012, 09:56 AM
Nice fab work! should be an awsome motor too!

wjfawb0
12-04-2012, 10:48 AM
The 12mm bolts in the intrepid hubs were one of the few things I used red loctite on during final assembly. It's coming along. I get to have fun in my AR51 every couple of weeks. I never thought I'd use it so much down here, but I really enjoy letting others take it for a spin. It's always a good reaction. :cool:

Large
12-05-2012, 05:09 AM
Thanks C39, I'm enjoying the build, but too many distractions to get r done like you have.

Anyhow, I had a bit of an expression session in the shed this arvo. Bolted up a few bits to see how they look.

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16993/1699326381b92492a968300671c4df2f264711fb.jpg

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16993/16993267c6fc8e8bb34ce7f91c11a26820e2472f.jpg

Luckily enough, I even fit in the buggy and the seat.

Trouble675
12-05-2012, 05:31 AM
How tall are you? I'm 6'4" 315lbs, (or 192cm-142.8kg) and I'm wondering if I'll have to modify my AR51 build.

Large
12-05-2012, 06:55 PM
I'm 182cm and ~125kg.

I reckon you might be a bit of a squeeze fit.

Trouble675
12-05-2012, 07:15 PM
Ya, I was looking at the plans a little but ago. I'd like to widen it 4" and stretch it 6". I think I can do it. If I go by the plans, I'm good but if I deviate and make changes, I lose confidence. :mad:

Large
12-06-2012, 03:28 AM
You could always turbo your plant and regain that missing confidence....

wjfawb0
12-06-2012, 06:39 AM
If you would like to stretch the frame, there would be a lot of work involved as it is designed. I'd definitely ask Rick for recommendations on where to begin. I'm 6'-0" and 225 lbs (183cm, 102kg), and I fit in the AR51 well. The design doesn't take full advantage of the seat slider. However, my brother-in-law is 6'-5" and 250 lbs or so and he had fun driving it and never once compained about a tight fit. I am glad I angled the overhead bars in the cockpit for the extra room. Rick's plans pointed out this option, and I thought it was a good idea.

Trouble675
12-06-2012, 07:12 AM
If you would like to stretch the frame, there would be a lot of work involved as it is designed. I'd definitely ask Rick for recommendations on where to begin. I'm 6'-0" and 225 lbs (183cm, 102kg), and I fit in the AR51 well. The design doesn't take full advantage of the seat slider. However, my brother-in-law is 6'-5" and 250 lbs or so and he had fun driving it and never once compained about a tight fit. I am glad I angled the overhead bars in the cockpit for the extra room. Rick's plans pointed out this option, and I thought it was a good idea.

Ok.

Once I get started and take some measurements, I'll have a better idea of how I'll fit.

Btw Large, your build looks to be coming along nicely! Keep up the good work!

Trouble675
01-22-2013, 05:42 PM
Hey there big fella! How's your build coming along? Any progress?

Large
01-24-2013, 10:20 PM
Haven't touched it for the last couple of months.

The state gubmint changed the law about re registering damaged bikes so I had to do a rush job to repair a bike I've owned since 2007 to get in before the Jan31 cut off date.

Will start work on the AR again in a week or so.

Large
07-17-2013, 04:06 AM
Sorted out my bikes, so been getting back into the AR.

Bought ITP Mudlites and Vision Outbacks for rolling gear- but had trouble fitting the front tyres onto the rims. Till we remembered seeing how to do it on Youtube once...this is our effort yesterday-

Seating A Buggy Tyre - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkJJuunXxLI&feature=youtu.be)

Trouble675
07-17-2013, 07:23 AM
Glad to see you're back at it! :D

gvouvakos
07-17-2013, 11:23 AM
Sorted out my bikes, so been getting back into the AR.

Bought ITP Mudlites and Vision Outbacks for rolling gear- but had trouble fitting the front tyres onto the rims. Till we remembered seeing how to do it on Youtube once...this is our effort yesterday-

Seating A Buggy Tyre - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkJJuunXxLI&feature=youtu.be)

Hah.. this is awesome :)

Large
09-29-2013, 04:00 AM
So I've been getting a bit done.

Pulled the plant out of this

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18457/18457574ca6d9bd7ad6fe0904d2577eb73071f3c.jpg

And dropped it in the engine bay to check for size.

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18457/18457579000642c3b8597b8a7bebad6a42b88381.jpg

Then got to making the engine mounts.

http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18457/184576000aeb28428694337cf423d1083bfd56a4.jpg

The plant is big- 1400cc and I was concerned that I wouldn't be able to get it in the engine bay after the roll cage was complete, but it comes out the side...just with a coupla skinned fingers.

Large
09-29-2013, 04:11 AM
So we got on with the rollcage and various tabs and fittings this weekend.

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18457/18457643a4b5f41bd1cb1f3bff01b227d2e3a4d4.jpg

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18457/18457682004dfa568571639c6958985ed948d813.jpg

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18457/1845764558663fb82a1f4ce4b765721083ef7415.jpg

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18457/18457667330326a4694ffb67a866e49b034ddc1e.jpg
(Mandatory race face/Vroom Vroom pic.)

mmobley
09-29-2013, 07:04 AM
What are the specs on your motor? Looks like you have made some good progress on the buggy. Nice "game face"!

Chikin
09-29-2013, 11:13 AM
I believe you missed some thing......
Engine sounds

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k5/chikin1974/minibuggy/1BB324A4-FCDE-4C13-B93B-8BA287326D5B-564-000000CE424A14A2_zps0424cb9d.jpg

Large
09-29-2013, 05:03 PM
What are the specs on your motor? Looks like you have made some good progress on the buggy. Nice "game face"!

It's a Suzuki GSX1400.

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18459/1845954403cb08930b7b37b420b5853564932fcf.jpg

I've owned a few now and they have great stump pulling power from low down, so don't need to be revved to get up and go.

From All Suzuki Motorcycles Ever Built (http://www.suzukicycles.org/All-Suzuki/all_suzuki_models.html)

They quote output figures of- 78 kW (106,1 hp) / 6800 rpm, 126 Nm / 5000 rpm.

Chikin, you're very close. It was more like Brap Brap Gearchange Brap Brap.

:)

Large
11-17-2013, 01:38 AM
Welding is done...'cept for the angled bits from the hip rail to the front roll bar.

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18665/18665098be6313082047a78a20a7d9f3ec0cc75e.jpg

Large
11-17-2013, 01:41 AM
Spent the day welding little bits, going over welds to check they go all round the bar and getting into some tight spots...then scotchbrited the lot and got some blue primer on.

http://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18665/186651004ea88b79ae84bc75720e796df7acc67a.jpg

Large
11-17-2013, 01:44 AM
Then dropped (grunted) the donk back in.

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18665/18665102fd669699ccf90667c4a4f797b67c3057.jpg

Need to make/mod the exhaust/firewall and airducting next.

Bullnerd
11-17-2013, 08:40 AM
Two things,

Love the word "Donk" and I have to learn how to use it.

Based on your footwear ,you just gained some points with our fearless leader.

Great job so far.

Trouble675
11-17-2013, 09:28 AM
I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say DONK is short for DONKEY, = power source? Here in the U.S., DONK could be something entirely different. I'll keep it clean and let you figure that out. Lol! I just love how you Australians have your own slang.

I'm glad to see you back at it, Large! Keep it up!

Chikin
11-17-2013, 09:42 AM
We'll let me give you the USA version of the word DONK.


It is a shortened work for redonkulus.
Use it in a sentence. "Those dang wheels look redonkulus on that cheap ass car".

Here is a few photos of said "DONK" cars. (All referers to the size of the wheels--- 26 to 30 inch rims on a normal full size car)
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll292/chasneonsxt/donk.jpg

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu188/big_boii_status/DONK.jpg



http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa12/brocking1/donk.jpg




Sadly none of these are photoshopped. They are actual cars. Mostly a south east trend. As in Atlanta and south east USA.

Up north
11-17-2013, 11:06 AM
Donk can be so many things.... Use you imagination!

K-fab
11-17-2013, 11:34 AM
Two things,

Love the word "Donk" and I have to learn how to use it.Yea, I agree. Another term for powerplant? Dunno? :confused:

Hey Large - how 'bout putting your location in for us, please.


Based on your footwear ,you just gained some points with our fearless leaderINDEED! My kinda people!
I can't stand shoes.

K-fab
11-17-2013, 11:38 AM
Doh - never mind on that Large. It would seam that I can't read titles! I'm gonna go into your profile and add where you're located. (and you can come kick me in the shins w/motocross boots if you feel this is wrong for me to do! - you'll have to pay the plane ticket, though.. that and there's absolutely NO reason to come to Milford Ohio, as it's no where close to the desert where there's good riding!)

Okay, I'm babbling... We won't discuss this.... Back to the F1 race at COTA on TV with me.

Trouble675
11-17-2013, 12:19 PM
I'm gonna kick Chikin right square in the donk!

Trouble675
11-17-2013, 12:23 PM
http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Uglyduck675/afba2c95-5e7c-4e85-b091-96dc65703941_zpsbdd0b212.jpg

More ridonkulousness...

Didn't mean to hijack your thread, Large. Carry on!

Up north
11-17-2013, 01:05 PM
I'm gonna kick Chikin right square in the donk!

Hey you can't Chikin in the donk, we don't even know what a donk is.

Up north
11-17-2013, 01:06 PM
Damn those cars look stupid!!!

Chikin
11-17-2013, 01:53 PM
Hey you can't Chikin in the donk, we don't even know what a donk is.

I like the build thread. Sorry for the off topic postings.


http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt52/purefoodschild/Nuggets.jpg

Large
11-17-2013, 02:10 PM
lol, look what happens when I go away for a few hours.

Thanks for the kind words guys, and yes a "Donk" is the Motor or Plant...the black thing sitting in the back of the buggy. It's a heavy lump and with the rollcage fitted up, it has to be manhandled (grunted) through the side.

The footwear is genuine "Taiwanese Safety Boots". We're all about safety first here.


As for those big wheel cars...I don't get the reasoning behind that "style"

Trouble675
11-17-2013, 02:36 PM
As for those big wheel cars...I don't get the reasoning behind that "style"

No one here does either. :/

Trouble675
11-17-2013, 02:53 PM
http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Uglyduck675/Kicked-in-the-Nads_zps54cafb74.jpg

Large
11-18-2013, 04:22 AM
Isn't that a "Punt"?

Chikin
11-18-2013, 08:35 AM
Isn't that a "Punt"?

Either a punt..... Unless there is no crying ..... If he crys... It's a field goal

Rat4020
11-18-2013, 08:50 AM
http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Uglyduck675/Kicked-in-the-Nads_zps54cafb74.jpg

Them crazzy Sweed'z :D They know how ta party LOL

Large
11-19-2013, 04:58 AM
Did a bit of test fitting today.

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18673/18673972a78ee1e01db7116bd5549b26943a68d1.jpg

Large
11-19-2013, 05:01 AM
http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18673/18673976f5c4bc3777ce0bf2ad096181c59489fc.jpg
http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18673/18673977c4bd6c946be5b5d529ebf192aa513c80.jpg

Looks like I fit, so all good.

Just gotta fit the top belts somewhere out of the way of the cooling air and oil cooling hoses and I should be good to go.

Rat4020
11-19-2013, 06:07 AM
Looks great man and that helmet is bad assed I want one :cool:

Trouble675
11-19-2013, 09:17 AM
Looking good bro!

alex_buggy
11-19-2013, 12:51 PM
looks good !!!

K-fab
11-19-2013, 06:27 PM
http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18673/18673977c4bd6c946be5b5d529ebf192aa513c80.jpgWe've found Glock n Ballz long lost Aussie brother!

Large
11-24-2013, 03:23 AM
Thanks for the kind words guys.

Got a bit of painting and dry fitting done

http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18693/1869333132221c0cc5c15e679268cccf7491b8c8.jpg

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18693/18693333177938453253c4d683505604dadf0baf.jpg

Large
11-24-2013, 03:26 AM
Bent up the nerf bars too. Had to "customise' the design a bit because I've only got a 90 degree bender.

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18693/1869334780a3bd40ab450416fad350941288c2ae.jpg

I also bought some 1.5" tube to make an exhaust, but it turned out to be 1 5/8ths (41mm) so won't fit in the bender.

2kmoss
11-24-2013, 07:22 PM
Your getting awful close. Love the helmet by the way:D

Large
12-15-2013, 02:18 PM
Got a little more done on the weekend

Did the cockpit front panels...in 3mm. A bit of overkill, but should stop decent sized rocks.

http://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18772/187723206b51d47da00ceb7c658055cc964ef069.jpg

Large
12-15-2013, 02:22 PM
Then I spent a few hours yesterday making an exhaust

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18772/18772322ac783877c5df8476a11e653b49e448dc.jpg

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18772/18772323bf20679b126bb4e2453622a5495b462e.jpg

I was going to put a little downturn in the exhaust so it dumps just under the back housing, but my mate reckons I'll set fire to his paddocks, so I might turn the exhaust up and fit one of those old school stingers.

Trouble675
12-15-2013, 04:24 PM
I don't see anywhere in that exhaust where a turbo is gonna go. .....?

Large
12-24-2013, 05:17 AM
I don't see anywhere in that exhaust where a turbo is gonna go. .....?

Don't need a turbo when you've got a 1000psi tailwind...

http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18803/188034842365991e3658e77cc979db74cd7b369e.jpg

:eek:

Large
12-24-2013, 05:18 AM
Santa got here just in time for Christmas today-

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18803/1880349525eff1e87755b1d60a71a62d1a8cc21d.jpg

Large
12-24-2013, 05:20 AM
http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18803/188034975977b694ef56251d1399588e3d331951.jpg

Got just about everything I need now 'cept for a coupla hoses/wires and a solid shifter linkage.

Duane
12-24-2013, 08:58 AM
Did that box come from the States? Or maybe Oz has Summit affiliated companies? But 800#s for hookup same as here? I kinda doubt it.

Large
12-26-2013, 12:16 AM
Did that box come from the States? Or maybe Oz has Summit affiliated companies? But 800#s for hookup same as here? I kinda doubt it.

Yep out of the US.

Even with shipping, most stuff is cheaper from the US than local suppliers.

Large
01-01-2014, 12:07 AM
So I didn't get on the turps too much last night and we got into the buggy early this year.

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7457/cu85.jpg

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7603/yml4.jpg

Large
01-01-2014, 12:08 AM
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2176/ex7t.jpg

Yes that is a happy/smug/s**t eating grin.

Large
01-01-2014, 02:41 AM
Here's my New Years Day in pics-

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2049/nim9.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8940/18r5.jpg

Large
01-01-2014, 02:42 AM
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8256/awbx.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/637/mpi9.jpg

Large
01-01-2014, 02:43 AM
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1390/8xm2.jpg

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2904/t99s.jpg

Large
01-01-2014, 02:44 AM
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6239/otdd.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8240/s7p6.jpg

Trouble675
01-01-2014, 09:02 AM
AND WE HAVE A ROLLER! RIGHT ON, MAN!!! [smilie=non_banana2:[smilie=non_banana2:[smilie=non_banana2:

Large
01-02-2014, 04:05 AM
AND WE HAVE A ROLLER! RIGHT ON, MAN!!! [smilie=non_banana2:[smilie=non_banana2:[smilie=non_banana2:

I figured now that it's rolling, I'd better start on the brakes-

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5649/0r91.jpg

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4136/u7dh.jpg

Can't do much more till next week. All the specialist bolt suppliers are still shut for the Xmas break.

daaboots
01-03-2014, 08:38 AM
Excellent progress. It's really looking great!

Large
01-13-2014, 06:10 AM
Got a few bits done today-

Front brakes on

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18884/1888403855de98052849cb297ac49fe3edd8a759.jpg

Firewall installed

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18884/18884039f33e1a325b62d4fd7d46d1b7a7c967d3.jpg

Large
01-13-2014, 06:14 AM
Oil cooler fitted- braided lines and fittings on the way-

http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18884/188840411dd46099731af0cafbf030d7c2924237.jpg

Seat mounted and floorpan in-

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/18884/188840432bbc2071a3fe976d7d3df0e351fc8165.jpg

I've also started on making an adjustable bracket to experiment with raising the steering wheel.

Airbox/tank/shifter and wiring next...

Trouble675
01-13-2014, 08:41 AM
I was able to move my seat back 2 1/4" for more leg room. It looks like your seat is already back against the bar, huh?

Large
01-13-2014, 02:42 PM
I was able to move my seat back 2 1/4" for more leg room. It looks like your seat is already back against the bar, huh?

That pic shows it fully forward, so it goes back quite a way, until the bottom of it is justabout touching the control arm mount.

Leg room isn't a problem, It turns out my steering column is about an inch lower than the plans call for, so I've made a plate to get back that inch plus another if I need.

Large
01-19-2014, 04:31 AM
I was installing my control arms today and looking at various engine mounts etc while idly wondering if I'd done them up.... then I had a moment of clarity and invested in a paint pen so when I do something up I can mark that it's done up, just like the people who make real cars.

Started on the airtbox-

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/703/lcv0.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/837/zmyq.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/837/zmyq.jpg

Large
01-19-2014, 04:33 AM
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/31/pb35.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/837/zmyq.jpg

Large
01-19-2014, 04:35 AM
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/38/xrw3.jpg

Then I started on the dash/bonnet panels.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/812/fn6m.jpg

I'm running a 5"tach with an oil pressure guage and light, plus a switch panel to control everything else-

http://www.competitionproducts.com/images/74131nologo.gif

So I've got to customise Rick's design a bit to suit. First time I've bought cardboard from the newsagent for at least 30 years...

Large
01-19-2014, 04:45 AM
I was also going to fit Leds or Hids for lighting, but after I saw Rick's ride thread-

http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/events-group-gatherings/19200-michigan-2013-u-p-ride-4.html

I decided to go for old school simplicity-

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/28/1qe9.jpg

Large
01-19-2014, 04:51 AM
Also had time to help my mate start his AR51 build.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/404/mmxh.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/17/fkxi.jpg

He's been helping me on my build for a while now so I've been helping him get started on his... mostly recounting all my stuffups and telling him what not to do.

Sorry about the 1 pic per post stuff, but Imageshack was playing up.

.

Trouble675
01-19-2014, 10:32 AM
Hey those big Daylighters look really good on there!

Large
01-21-2014, 12:25 AM
Yeah I think so too. After seeing them in Rick's ride thread, I remembered seeing them on Tamiya RC cars from the 80's and that made up my mind on the spot.

http://www.rc-airplane-world.com/image-files/tamiya-srb-rough-rider.jpg

Anyone want to do my wiring...?

K-fab
01-21-2014, 05:20 AM
WOW!!! I had that Tamiya R/C car way back when ('83). It's what got me into playing with R/C toys.

It was amazing (for the time). Fluid filled dampers, articulating suspension, little u-joints, etc.. Fun stuff.

fabdaddy
01-21-2014, 10:14 AM
wow small world k fab. i had the same rc car in 84. after playing with it for a few years I decided to copy it as my first attempt at a minibuggy. I traded it to the neighbor kid for an old polaris 340 sled and used all the drive train for my primative buggy. very cool . Large your ar looks amazing and its great to help your mate to avoid some of the mistakes that we all make . great job

Large
01-23-2014, 02:59 AM
Thanks fd,

My mate has made a couple of little stuffups already. He's a bit younger than me and never got the "benefit" of learning about feet and inches in school, so while I used a ft/inch tape, he's converted all the dimensions to mm, and made a few mistakes along the way..."Measure Once, Cut Twice!"

I had a few RC cars over the years- still do now- but all the old ones were destroyed in horrific crashes years ago.....should have looked after them...some of those RC cars are worth silly money now.

Anywho, got on with the bodywork. I decided to make a bigger dash and raise the bonnet to fit a 5" tach and the usual switches/instruments. I've made the bonnet in 2 pieces, the back half will be hinged or clip under the front half and be held with dzus fasteners-

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/703/mnqp.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/22/86pc.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/706/jdyx.jpg

The bonnet might look a bit high, but it's not as big as some of the buggies being raced in Australia. Check out the wire cages and screens being used to keep dirt/rocks out of the cabins- (Buggies start about 8mins in after the tractor pulls)-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwtD3qxXDj8#t

Wont get any more done till next week. Going away for a few days to Celebrate Australia Day and check out an old MX school to use as a test n tune track.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6941/uf19.jpg

mrniceguy
02-04-2014, 01:03 AM
Hello Large, cool build you have there. I like the AR51 design, looks a bit smaller and more nimble than a barracuda. I have a few questions if you dont mind...

I see you are using 40mm square tube for the chassis rails. What did the original design call for in imperial units?

Have you used any imperial dimensioned steel in your build?

It seems to me some of the laser cut bits would rely on using imperial sized steel. Eg, the front lower arm mounts where they "lock into" the chassis rails. Is this the case? And how did you get around this issue?

Thanks in advance and keep up the good work!

Large
02-04-2014, 01:34 AM
Thanks mrniceguy,

The plans call for 1 1/2 and 1 1/4 square. I only used 40mm in the bits that don't make a difference (where a few mm don't matter) and I couldn't get the 1 1/2 in a thick enough wall section. I used 1 1/4 in the front section so I didn't need to adjust anything.

A mate of mine is building with 35mm in place of the 1 1/4 (31.8mm) so has had to grind out the lower arm mounts 3mm to fit. Not a problem, just requires a bit of thinking and planning before doing any cutting.

All the round tube is 4130 cromo which is available in the specced sizes. As a bonus, because I used 4130, I could use thinner wall sections and not lose any strength.

mrniceguy
02-04-2014, 01:36 AM
Thanks for the quick reply! Hows it going anyhow?

Large
02-04-2014, 02:02 AM
It's going steadily but slowly.

Dash is done- wiring starts tomorrow

http://imageshack.com/a/img839/723/2chu.jpg

And the oil fittings from the motor are done so I can install the oil lines to the cooler.

http://imageshack.com/a/img839/7406/u1aw.jpg

Large
02-04-2014, 02:06 AM
And I made a fuel tank...but I don't think it will hold fuel.

http://imageshack.com/a/img841/986/lx2r.jpg

http://imageshack.com/I had to make a practice tank to check my dimensions are ok. Going to get a bit of 12mm alloy billet cnced to make the tank base, then make the rest out of 3mm alloyminum.

mmobley
02-04-2014, 06:37 AM
Your build looks great and your oil fittings look fantastic. I also like the looks of your dash.

Martinm210
02-04-2014, 07:09 AM
Wow, nice and super fast progress.

I need to start in on some panel work soon. How thick is your floor aluminum panel?

Large
02-04-2014, 01:44 PM
Thanks for the kind comments guys.

Floor is 3mm or 1/8"

2kmoss
02-04-2014, 01:48 PM
Looking good! I gotta get my gas tank going as well.

Boy the AR51 threads are taking over today:D

TALON
02-05-2014, 05:17 AM
Hey large, your e mail got filtered down to me yesterday about coming down to TORC for a skid this season , it would be great if you could make a race or two , the more the better.
Keep your eye on the calender for the bagshot enduro , its a blast.

Looking forward to seeing one of RIcks designs in the flesh .

Large
02-05-2014, 05:54 PM
Hey large, your e mail got filtered down to me yesterday about coming down to TORC for a skid this season , it would be great if you could make a race or two , the more the better.
Keep your eye on the calender for the bagshot enduro , its a blast.

Looking forward to seeing one of RIcks designs in the flesh .


PM sent

TALON
02-05-2014, 06:51 PM
PM sent


In box full ,, room now try again .

Large
02-22-2014, 11:49 PM
So it's all systems go at the Brooky factory.

I got my oil lines and airbox finished

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19049/190493164637c3101889d89d3af880c7f9469850.jpg

Old mate in the factory behind has been going hard on his build-

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19049/190493197a66f87c8622cb602366752d6aefca3d.jpg

All the main rollbars/frame are 38.1mm 4130 Chromo...so should be pretty strong.

http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19049/190493341b1be790805d0f11f628502f73397369.jpg

The X brace in the main hoop and the cross bar in the front hoop are mandatory if we want to race.

Large
02-23-2014, 12:00 AM
It's not quite the AV Roe/ Boeing Factory circa 1943, but it's a kinda production line-

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19049/19049349c4ef3ad7f5de07e07f19ef8a08d8f1ae.jpg

I got my bracing cut and tacked.

http://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19049/190493506517dc3bfe2b480198669f4b35d3feae.jpg

Then we got them outside (sorry no snow here) for a coupla pics.

http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19049/19049354cfd56f5bb48f1915d76e78da100f5e06.jpg

Large
02-23-2014, 12:06 AM
http://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19049/19049370083540bfe26d632fde2e2ced699ff8dc.jpg

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19049/19049372833d09da4db19778cd040e66683c7380.jpg

My test pilot likes the buggy...but he aint getting in it while it's this hot

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19049/19049377ff0c9af7facb60c8f3848872f182b561.jpg

mrniceguy
02-23-2014, 01:21 AM
Looks awesome! Is blue going to be the final colour?

Large
02-23-2014, 02:11 AM
Looks awesome! Is blue going to be the final colour?

Nah, that's just the primer that matches the blue the steel comes in.

The plan is to run them in a bit and see if anything cracks before a final colour.

I'm thinking desert sand/camo or gunmetal frame and a bright colour.

Old mate is thinking black with flames or something.

mmobley
02-23-2014, 08:07 AM
[QUOTE=Large;279454]It's not quite the AV Roe/ Boeing Factory circa 1943, but it's a kinda production line-


Dude that is too funny!! Buggys are looking good.

2kmoss
02-23-2014, 03:26 PM
Looking great! Im curious though. Why did you feel the need for the additional bracing?

Oops nevermind the question. Just seen where you said it was mandatory for racing.

Large
02-23-2014, 10:43 PM
The mini buggys run under CAMS (Confederation of Australian Motorsport) rules so the bracing is needed for safety if we want to race.

As a (big) bonus, Talon informed me that the bracing also helps to keep the hoops in shape in the event of a rollover, so it saves your head...and also your wallet as the frame isn't as likely to be junked.

Large
03-01-2014, 10:56 PM
Started fiddling with wiring....then gave up again and worked on the accelerator cable.

Also started on my shifter.

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19078/19078728988d633a583acb0698ddfa68341bdf1b.jpg

I've always wanted a pistol grip shifter, so I decided to make one.

http://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19078/190787307eec7bfa1774f676daa182a8a4e4574b.jpg

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19078/190787329efa595091e936fcce7cb057c9d4de2a.jpg

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19078/1907873366a7421af52b719036928e205148bdfb.jpg

After the problems I had using a shifter cable in my 600cc kart, I'm going with pushrods and 8mm heims for the linkages to join it all up

Deranged
03-02-2014, 05:57 AM
I dig the pistol grip shifter!

Justin

TheDoc
03-03-2014, 01:00 AM
Hey Large,
Looking great mate, when do you plan on heading down to visit us Mexicans, would like to see the AR in the flesh.

Two thumbs up for a great build....

Large
03-24-2014, 04:40 AM
Doc,

I'm hoping to have mine running in a month or so, I'm getting into the wiring, then it's just the fuel tank and some little bits to complete. I'm going to run it locally a couple of times to see if anything falls off before heading south. Old mate who's also building one is going great guns- even to the stage of ditching the CBR1000RRRR donk he was going to run and mounting up a GENII Busa for motorvation. If the money doesn't dry up, he should be rolling in 4-6 months...maybe.

Shifter is complete

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19175/191755464b94b317d19f055d4768e2c838cb0a27.jpg

Then I got into the battery/ecu box. To simplify things, I decided to use the original 1400 box, cut down a bit

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19175/191755495c9d57e0fe6328330aa82b9ab2ec886f.jpg

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19175/19175558c5b92a133c78ed5b3f5c84b03ca855c7.jpg

Large
03-24-2014, 04:44 AM
http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19175/1917556340decdfcc2c2c8943e560f0c11618415.jpg

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19175/19175568554322686e90483a813ad4fa713df602.jpg

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/19175/19175573ab784dc035d8235515c354f5e8a586ae.jpg

I've got to add a couple of braces and a strap to help hold it together on the 6' table tops, but I'm happy with the way it fits behind the seat. As a bonus, I should be able to flip the harness around and plug everything together with minimal cutting/joining.

mmobley
03-24-2014, 02:13 PM
can't see the pics for some reason.:(

fabdaddy
03-24-2014, 03:27 PM
I see em???????

Pstegs 101
03-24-2014, 03:28 PM
I can see the pics

ps they look great :p

Pstegs 101
03-24-2014, 03:28 PM
I can see them

ps they look great :p

mmobley
03-25-2014, 07:12 AM
All I see is a small black box with an x in it. Anybody have any ideas?? I want to see his pics![smilie=rant.gif]

2kmoss
03-25-2014, 07:59 AM
I can see them fine too. I wonder if the site he posts his photos on is blocked from your ISP for some reason??

Rat4020
03-25-2014, 08:39 AM
They show up on my Edsel laptop :D At times that has happend to my comp it might work to shut down and restart

mmobley
03-25-2014, 08:52 AM
My buddy JW says he can't see them here at work either but he can see them at home so I bet 2kmoss is correct. I will have to get on at home and check out your pics bud.

Large
03-25-2014, 04:04 PM
Sorry guys, I've had a few people say they can't see pics I post on Uploadhouse.com so I tried Imageshack for a bit, but they want me to pay for the service, and I'm one of those old fashioned interwebbers that think everything should be free.

Rat4020
03-26-2014, 05:46 AM
Sorry guys, I've had a few people say they can't see pics I post on Uploadhouse.com so I tried Imageshack for a bit, but they want me to pay for the service, and I'm one of those old fashioned interwebbers that think everything should be free.

Give photobucket a try Ive had good luck with that :D and its FREE

Large
04-01-2014, 05:22 AM
Give photobucket a try Ive had good luck with that :D and its FREE

Ok here's some Photobucket pics-

I'm working on the electrics. Most of the important stuff fits down low behind the seat and I'm extending the looms to the throttle bodies/dials and switches.

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/006_zps58e20aad.jpg
http://s937.photobucket.com/user/Richard065/media/001_zps479946f3.jpg.html

Large
04-01-2014, 05:27 AM
Old mate has now ditched the CBR1000RRRR and fitted a GenII Busa-

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/004_zpsf3eca563.jpg

Getting fancy with his shifter-

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/002_zpsac733249.jpg

And the obligatory Vroom Vroom shot-

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/001_zps479946f3.jpg

Large
04-01-2014, 05:31 AM
I'm using the clutch Master cylinder and he's using the brake master from a CBR1000 for our clutch setups so we've lashed out and gone halves in a pair of these for a bit of bling.

http://www.motomarts.com/image/XXD-LEV-STD/XXD-LEV-STD-SHT-BK-SI/XXD-LEV-STD-SHT-BK-SI-01.JPG

Rat4020
04-01-2014, 06:06 AM
Dude thats gona be a screamer with the Hurst shifter ya might wanta wear some boots though LOL.... Looks great Large :D

mmobley
04-01-2014, 07:50 AM
I love it! Fabricating in shorts and sandles.[smilie=sign_ghey.g:
Your builds look great guys. Keep it up.

Trouble675
04-01-2014, 01:03 PM
Better put a turbo on that Busa. I hear they're under powered. :p

Large
04-29-2014, 08:09 AM
Thanks guys.

That was more of an expression session than a build session, although we do usually build in our Taiwanese safety boots. And don't mention Turbo's. Old mate's buggy is going to be quick enough as it is.

Anywho, time for pics.

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/004_zps74dcf44f.jpg
Got my airbox, oil cooler and hoses in

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/019_zpsc2062c5f.jpg

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/021_zps9f21715d.jpg
Also started on the drive line parts

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/006_zpsdef56f45.jpg
The joy of wiring has gotten old very quick

Large
04-29-2014, 08:14 AM
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/014_zps8456e9a8.jpg

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/006_zpsfead0334.jpg
Old mate has built his exhaust.
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/025_zps0a11ab00.jpg

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/030_zpsbee8c12c.jpg
And is getting into his dash. He's recessing the instruments- so he can see them through the wheel. As a bonus, he'll have a place to chuck his ciggies when driving. Just needs a lighter on the dash.
I reckon he has a Sally Field fixation, but he's young and reckons he doesn't even know who she is.
Another mate reckons he should fit a marble steering wheel to go with his '59 Chrysler style dash.

Large
04-29-2014, 08:19 AM
I'm using flush mounted Dzus (copy) fasteners to hold my panels on. When I ordered them, I didn't think of ordering a tool to fit them. An hour of interweb sleuthing gave me a good idea what the dimple die tool looks like and how it works. 5 minutes with a lathe and et viola!

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/031_zps7ffeae60.jpg
The countersunk bolt goes through the hole and is rattlegunned into the die, making a neat dimple that the fastener fits into.

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/034_zpsd3c7bc8b.jpg

mrniceguy
04-29-2014, 11:11 AM
Looking good! Love your mates dash. Maybe he should add a glovebox as well haha

K-fab
04-29-2014, 12:33 PM
Nice work with the dimple stuff.

I always just cut out a big enough hole for the Dzus fastener to fit in. I like the dimple idea even more.

Generally I just use the Dzus buttons, but I have used the self ejecting units like you're showing. They're nice being that you don't have to go find that one button that's wandered off...

Large
05-04-2014, 10:49 AM
So I finally got it running tonight.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ZYLw8Qby4

Might even be drivable in a week or so...

Large
05-04-2014, 11:18 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK6PZilg33c

Lug-Nuts
05-04-2014, 10:34 PM
Thats sweet, good work!

Up north
05-04-2014, 11:33 PM
Thumbs up Large[smilie=cool.gif]

mmobley
05-05-2014, 11:04 AM
Great feeling isn't it. Sounds wicked.

sodman
05-05-2014, 10:21 PM
Congrats on the fire up the best is yet to come. Wait till you fire it up and take it for a rip you will not be disappointed trust me .

Rayatswan
05-08-2014, 06:43 PM
Hey Large, congrats on the build and startup, sounds good.
I am located north of you at Newcastle and have a Barracuda/Piranha hybrid powered by a TL1000.
I see you have been on the SORRA site and asked about racing, for some reason the minibuggy's have not got a big following in NSW but I am keen to get a venue going. I was involved with the initial attempt to get a club going at SORRA and had a run on part of the SORRA track but the idea just faded away.
Anyway drop me a line if you want to say hi.
Ray

lost26
05-08-2014, 07:53 PM
Crongrats Large!!! That has to be a awesome feeling

TALON
05-08-2014, 09:04 PM
Yea good work man ,, not to far now ,, head down ass up .

Large
06-12-2014, 10:00 AM
Update time.

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/006_zpsbfa6df99.jpg

The chain, driveshafts and brakes are on. Got a little problem with the clutch master binding, but should be simple to fix.

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/006_zpsa3841d4d.jpg

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/005_zps624a1da4.jpg

Got myself a bottle of nitrogen for the shocks and tyres. I bought the regulator from the US and had a bit of fun finding an adaptor, and getting it to fit the AU bottle fittings, but all good now.

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/001_zps2569aac0.jpg

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/002_zps02c20c1c.jpg

Yesterday, old mate with the CNC made up my tank base out of 12mm luminum. Hoping to get it welded and mounted this weekend.

Small steps...

mmobley
06-12-2014, 10:37 AM
Looking good Large! I like the machine work.

2kmoss
06-13-2014, 12:35 AM
Your getting super close! All the final details take forever, that's for sure. Love the tank bottom, that will make a nice solid base for your tank.

Large
06-30-2014, 08:13 AM
IT RUNS! IT RUNS! IT RUNS!1!1!!!11!ELEVENTY!1!!11!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=chHQN7WnP4A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chHQN7WnP4A)

Might hook up the KC Daylighters tomorrow...

Large
06-30-2014, 09:55 AM
A bit out of sequence but finished off my tank yesterday-

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/004_zpsac3305f4.jpg

The fuel pump I'm using sticks out under the tank quite a bit, so had to do a bit of headscratching to work out how to get the tank in and out.

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/007_zpsde7369aa.jpg

I ended up cutting about an inch off the top of the tank and mounting it that much higher so now I only need to remove the rear caliper to fit the tank.

wjfawb0
06-30-2014, 04:28 PM
I pulled the sprocket when I had to remove my gas tank. I installed a piece of angle iron on the bottom of the tank as a "thrown chain" guard. That interferes with things too. Your mod should make it quite a bit easier.

http://www.fawbush.org/images/2012_8_12_buggy/2012_8_12_buggy_11.JPG

Large
07-01-2014, 03:59 AM
I pulled the sprocket when I had to remove my gas tank. I installed a piece of angle iron on the bottom of the tank as a "thrown chain" guard. That interferes with things too. Your mod should make it quite a bit easier.

http://www.fawbush.org/images/2012_8_12_buggy/2012_8_12_buggy_11.JPG

That's not a bad idea to protect the bottom of the tank. Another job to add to the list.

Got it out in daylight for a coupla laps. It gets sideways easily, but the tyres aren't going to last on this driveway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOSOQg9yPM0

Large
07-01-2014, 04:21 AM
AR51Daylightrun2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ8gBJjPb70&feature=youtu.be)

Large
07-17-2014, 07:22 AM
So I've finally run it on the dirt, and it really is as good as all you guys who've already got theirs running have been saying-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Vre2VILMU

Large
07-17-2014, 07:24 AM
We taped a cheapo cam to the rollbar for some onboard and forgot it was on-

AR51 Onboard . - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMw3niwIr6M)

TALON
07-17-2014, 07:49 AM
Nice job man ,good to see her up and running,just how big was that grin.

First vid a bit on the short side though:)

Large
07-17-2014, 07:56 AM
Yep, I was loving it. Both my mates had goes too, and they didn't want to stop. One of the guys who had a go is the one building the Busa powered AR, He's pretty keep to get his finished now.

Looks like I uploaded them in the wrong order. This is the first run. We were on an MX track to give the suspension a good workout over the rough surface.

AR51 FirstDirtRun - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6DRMWpUtB4)

Nothing fell off or broke so I'm happy.

wjfawb0
07-17-2014, 10:59 AM
Looks great. Rick and the guys in Michigan helped me add oil to the shocks and make sure the pressure was right. That made a significant improvement in the ride and body roll. I haven't adjusted much of anything since then. Just like on my motorcycles, I check tires and chain before each ride. Makes me want to take mine out somewhere this weekend to stretch the legs again.

Trouble675
07-17-2014, 05:34 PM
Awesome man!

Large
07-17-2014, 07:55 PM
Looks great. Rick and the guys in Michigan helped me add oil to the shocks and make sure the pressure was right. That made a significant improvement in the ride and body roll. I haven't adjusted much of anything since then. Just like on my motorcycles, I check tires and chain before each ride. Makes me want to take mine out somewhere this weekend to stretch the legs again.

Thanks for that. Rick told me to add oil to the shocks which got rid of most of the pitching motion on takeoffs and stops. I'm running ~260 front and ~380 rear in the shocks and it kicks the back up a bit over jumps so it lands nose first. The guy who's building the Busa powered AR also races RC buggies and reckons I need to drop the rear pressures so it squats more and doesn't kick the back up. But then I'd lose rear clearance. I'm thinking of bumping the front up to 300 and giving that a try.

What Tyre pressures are you guys running?- I just set mine at 20psi.

wjfawb0
07-18-2014, 12:04 PM
I was running 10-12 psi until I popped the outside bead off a rear rim doing donuts a couple weeks ago. I bumped it up to 15psi after that. I found the lower pressure works really well over all, though. Just don't run your sidewall into anything while doing donuts. :D

My buggy weighs more than most too. I used 1.315" OD .133" wall pipe and .120" wall square in places that thinner was called out. I had it all on hand, so I used it. I just tell everyone it makes for a better ride with more sprung weight. ;)

I believe I set my shocks at 175 front and 350 rear. I don't recall exactly. I need to hook the regulator and gauge up to the shocks this weekend and see what I have. Correct me if I'm wrong here, someone, but I set the pressures with the shock fully extended and the buggy jacked up off the ground. I can lift the front of my AR51 off the ground and drag it around. I can't budge the rear. I tried to corner weight mine and came up with 150 on the front tires and the rear tires exceeded my scale's 340lb capacity. I know the buggy weighs over 1000lbs because of this.

The few times I have jumped the buggy has been up steep hills at lower speed. I do get a bit of nose down action with the rebound on the rear, so I could probably improve that. Most of the time, though, I'm just riding around forest roads and trails.

RickS.
07-18-2014, 01:25 PM
I run 10-12 psi in my tires.
On these buggies I believe the rear will always kick up if you don't keep the pedal mashed off the jump lip.
You need to be accelerating lifting the front as you leave the lip.

RickS.
07-18-2014, 01:58 PM
If the jump has a kick up at the lip this can kick up the rear.
But for most (like the one in your vid.) it's not going to be the shocks causing the rear to kick up.
It's just not being in the right gear and not pulling hard enough as you launch.
The rear is heavy and will continue to climb as you leave the jump.
The trick is to keep the power on and be in a gear that can keep the front up as you leave the lip.
It's tempting to let off early, especially with the power available when you are in the right gear.

Large
09-21-2014, 03:07 AM
Sorry about the late replies.

Thanks for the "If in doubt, power it out"/"Drive harder you girl" instructions Rick.

So I've been working on a nice pipe/spark arrestor. Should give a mellow tone

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/005_zps2dbc56ca.jpg

Bullnerd
09-21-2014, 01:02 PM
Not nearly LARGE enough!

mrniceguy
09-21-2014, 01:38 PM
Fits like a glove!
Hows the buggy going? Broken anything yet?

Large
09-23-2014, 12:11 AM
Buggy's going good....but I haven't driven it since the last time.

Going away for our October long weekend in two weeks so getting everything set up for the trip. Got to do a coupla things to the trailer to get the buggy tied down. Then I'm going to try and make my CR250 fit on the front.

Buggys bikes bungers and guns.

WCPGW?

Rat4020
09-23-2014, 09:43 AM
[QUOTE=Large;291723]Sorry about the late replies.

Thanks for the "If in doubt, power it out"/"Drive harder you girl" instructions Rick.

So I've been working on a nice pipe/spark arrestor. Should give a mellow tone



As Bull said no were near big enough :D LOL
And about yer pending trip dont forget the BEER [smilie=giddy.gif]

Trouble675
09-24-2014, 10:40 PM
WTF is a bunger?

K-fab
09-24-2014, 11:07 PM
WTF is a bunger?Agreed! What is that?

Rat4020
09-25-2014, 09:46 AM
WTF is a bunger?

Her ya go:eek: Im leavin this one alone
Urban Dictionary: bunger (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunger&defid=591057)

Duane
09-25-2014, 12:48 PM
WCPGW?

Okay Rat step up and try that one.

Rat4020
09-25-2014, 01:32 PM
WCPGW?

Okay Rat step up and try that one.

Au dude Im just the messager.. Il leave that ta the author LOL . Correct me if um wrong but I think he ment burger's :D

Trouble675
09-25-2014, 06:10 PM
Her ya go:eek: Im leavin this one alone
Urban Dictionary: bunger (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunger&defid=591057)

http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Uglyduck675/Mobile%20Uploads/365808695_disgust_answer_1_xlarge_zpsst2d2i0m.jpeg (http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/Uglyduck675/media/Mobile%20Uploads/365808695_disgust_answer_1_xlarge_zpsst2d2i0m.jpeg .html)
Oh Large.........

Rat4020
09-25-2014, 06:13 PM
http:// <a href=http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/Uglyduck675/media/Mobile%20Uploads/365808695_disgust_answer_1_xlarge_zpsst2d2i0m.jpeg .html target=_blank>http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a617/Uglyduck675/Mobile%20Uploads/365808695_disgust_answer_1_xlarge_zpsst2d2i0m.jpeg

Some thing tells me its a good thing yer pict dont show :D

Trouble675
09-25-2014, 06:17 PM
LoL, I gave up.

Hambam
09-28-2014, 08:13 AM
Her ya go:eek: Im leavin this one alone
Urban Dictionary: bunger (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bunger&defid=591057)



Americans...

Always believing things they read on the internet

Large
10-02-2014, 08:42 AM
,,,

Large
10-02-2014, 08:50 AM
Two countries separated by language...

This is a bunger. It makes coleslaw and gives rabbits nasty headaches.

Z5aeTmywafU

TALON
10-02-2014, 09:46 AM
Sooo how was the big weekend ,,did ya get some buggy seat time in between blowin shit up .

Large
10-05-2014, 08:42 AM
Just got back.

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/001_zps0cadb64d.jpg

Got some buggy time (This is my mate who's building the 'Busa powered one driving)

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Goes ok. Did some exploring/hillclimbing down the valleys in the first pic, and it went anywhere I pointed it..

Large
10-05-2014, 09:42 AM
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Large
10-06-2014, 12:27 AM
Just checking over the buggy and I've stretched the new 530 chain I fitted on Saturday.

I guess doing linelockers in the mud didn't help.

Anyone running a 630 chain?

mrniceguy
10-06-2014, 10:01 AM
Just did a bit of light cyber stalking and I see you have a vid of the tiger at bovington! Did you take that? Ive been there 3 times now and its been broken/parked every time.

Large
10-06-2014, 07:13 PM
Yep, I was there a few days before their annual Tankfest and saw them test running it.

It's pretty impressive close up.

mrniceguy
10-08-2014, 07:52 AM
If youre ever in that part of the world again, the Sammy Millar motorcycle museum is worth a look. Ive been there 3 times too haha

Large
11-12-2014, 06:57 AM
My mate's been getting on with his AR-

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/023_zps5d1ef659.jpg

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/017_zps9d1ee096.jpg

Large
11-12-2014, 07:01 AM
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/021_zpsd27a93be.jpg

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad212/Richard065/019_zpsb3e73aa3.jpg

He's planning to do some racing, so he's probably upgrading the shocks to these-

FOX 2.0 Factory Series Piggyback Reservoir Coil Over Shock 7/8" Shaft (http://downsouthmotorsports.com/i-10273520-fox-2-0-factory-series-piggyback-reservoir-coil-over-shock-7-8-shaft.html)

He also want beadlock wheels, but is having trouble finding anything in the 5 on 4.5 stud pattern. Anyone got a link to any beadlocks in that stud pattern?

Large
11-17-2014, 07:20 AM
Spent the weekend at a mate's farm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNv7Z9XOp-g&list=UUsvrykTBn6scbTS1KDAJpig

Large
11-17-2014, 08:01 AM
He's got about 2500 acres, and heaps of trails into the never never. It was hot, dry and dusty. but with the aid of booze we somehow managed.

AR51151114a - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjt-aMHgsfY&index=1&list=UUsvrykTBn6scbTS1KDAJpig)

The AR has a few squeaks and groans in the front now, so it might be time for a strip and paint job.

Rat4020
11-17-2014, 09:42 AM
yep .. With all that dammed booze[smilie=ext_beer2.g:[smilie=ext_beer2.g:[smilie=ext_beer2.g:
just remember if yer gona drink en drive make sure ya got a fast car :D

Hambam
11-17-2014, 06:32 PM
Hey Large, I'll be in and around Sydney for most of december, Might have access to a place near Goulburn. Keen to trash some dirt together? Only condition is I have to fix my buggy first :D Its almost done, just need to rebuild the rear end

TALON
11-17-2014, 07:19 PM
Nice vid Large , plenty of room to get silly there.

Are you and your bud still thinking of coming down our way for a run .