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04-30-2012, 11:26 PM
Well, I have been thinking of another build. I have pondered a couple different single seater cars. But for me the best part of having one of these cars is building it yourself. I was just at Rick's place tonight, and picked up the plans for an AR-51! I prolly wont post much progress until this winter, but this summer, I will be collecting steel, parts, all the stuff to get a roller. Once I sell the Shotgun, I will start looking for the pricy stuff..motor..(busa, Gsxr 1000, RC-51), wheels, tires, shocks, and things like that. The wife says something has to go before I start spending more on "big boy toys" I will make a seperate post to sell that. I am pretty stoked to get going on another build.
Mainly the reason for going with a single seater is lighter, and more nimble. The Rorty car is a monster in the tighter trails in Michigan, but isn't too bad, just want a single seater.[smilie=shocker.gif]


05-01-2012, 09:25 PM
I'm getting things around for building one also. Just sent Rick a message. I'll be following...

05-03-2012, 11:40 AM
Sounds like all three of us are in the same boat. I have a pile of parts at my place, but I don't wan't to start until I have pretty much everything I need.

05-03-2012, 11:53 AM
I'm interested in seeing what you guys come up with. I've stuck to the plans exactly other than a few aesthetic items. Having all the parts together helps with the work too. Best of luck with your build, Justin.

05-03-2012, 03:17 PM
Same here, I have pretty much every thing here. Need to order the tires and wheels, a seat and waiting for Rick to tell me the front hubs are ready. Besides back ordered axles and engine I have it all.

05-03-2012, 05:14 PM
I think the AR51 will more fun than the Shotgun, especially on Michigan trails. Take the Shotgun to the sand and hang a sign on it.

07-21-2012, 05:53 PM
Welp, things are under way! It has been crazy busy at work the past couple months...BUT. I have spent a couple extra hours at work this week programming all the flat plate work for the front end. I will start programming the rear parts this week. The wife doesn't want me to sell the Shotgun, so I made her a deal...I will sell the shotgun, and buy her a four wheeler, and I can finish the build! Not to bad of a deal?! I think I could ask $15,00 for the shotty... What do ya think? Like I said, this is gonna be a slow one:D


07-21-2012, 06:04 PM
Awesome news,I enjoyed following your first build,this should be just as good.

07-21-2012, 06:05 PM

09-19-2012, 08:12 PM
All right. I rounded up some tube, and 1/4" plate to make another table. When I built the shotgun, I told myself I would never use wood for a lay out table. So I built a 60"x24" table, with a 1/4" plate top. It has a wooden shelf near the bottom for storage.

As for the build, I got the 1 1/2 tube cut, and layed out for holes and mitres. I will place my steel order for the rest of the chassis and suspension bits. My plan is to cut and notch everything, and go to town.. More news tomorrow...

And pictures.:D

Oh yeah. Lots of interest in the shotgun too. A couple test rides, and some people calling more than once.

09-19-2012, 08:30 PM
I read this first posting and thought it was "today's posting"
Then I look at date. Glad to see this coming to light now.

09-19-2012, 08:59 PM

Great to see you taking the plunge. After watching Rick and Jason putting their AR51s through their paces up north, what other choice could you make? [smilie=ecstatic.gi:[smilie=ecstatic.gi:


09-20-2012, 04:43 PM
Your right there Leo.

This build has actually become TWIN AR-51's! So 2 of these will be taking birth here in A-town. I just places the order for all the tube that I will need. Saturday will be a great day to cut some steel!!


09-20-2012, 08:21 PM
Oh we're gonna have fun in the UP next year!

09-20-2012, 08:34 PM
Oh yeahhhhh! I am planning on a GSXR 1000, and the other will prolly have a Ducati motor. Gerry has a woody over running something different. We shall see.


09-20-2012, 08:59 PM
The GSXR 1000 is a great motor in this car. I've been driving the RC51 car and it has a completely different feel. Pulls hard in all gears, but doesn't have that throw you back in the seat power band like the GSXR.
It's so torquey its kind of jerky.
It's by no means slow, just not what I'm used to.
I need to take it somewhere like tin cup or maybe Baldwin to get a better feel for it.

09-21-2012, 02:23 AM
From what I know of motorcycles and the experience I had with my gsxr 750 and Rick had with his RC51, I'd say GSXR 1000 all the way. It takes very little work to make a GSXR harness work on a buggy.

09-21-2012, 09:45 PM
I plan on getting the second Cuda done this winter as well. If I was starting from scratch, it would have been an AR51 (not that I'm complainin' about the Cuda) The design is worked out soooo much beter than the edge plans.

I'm still learning to drive the GSXR 1000. After watching Rick drive his (and hearing the videos) I was not pushing mine any where near it's limits. Keep up posted on the build Justin ....


09-22-2012, 08:22 AM
Another set of twins! SWEET! And he couldn't get much different than a Ducati.

Any interest in driving Baldwin on the Silver Lake trip coming up? Wolf Lake Resort has Baldwin trail access from their lot if we want to do a two day trip.

Leo, it sounds like your experience was like mine with the power those things make. You can drive at 3/4 throttle and go very fast. That last 1/4 of throttle must be very spectacular! You could use some wide open space, or a track, to get comfortable with the limits of that awesome machine.

09-23-2012, 04:12 AM
Another Ar-51 project!! Good luck. Cheers [smilie=ext_beer2.g:

03-08-2014, 06:12 PM
Well, I am back at it! Selling the Shot gun last spring was good, but I really miss having a buggy! I have the lower frame tacked, the front sub frame tacked up, and I am finishing up the water jet work here and there at work. This week was a great week to get things going again. I Have some pics on my phone, but that's it. I will be doing some machine work for suspension bungs this week. Everything in moderation is the key for me.


03-23-2014, 06:35 AM
OK here are some pictures. I have to get back in the habit of taking more pictures as I go, but here is the latest..

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When I built any one of the modules, I scribed a center line on the tubes, to line up with a center line on my table. As I put the modules together, I was able to keep things centered. Also when I put the mid rail up, I ran a string line over all of the center lines on the lower, and dropped a plumb bob down from the center lines on the mid rail to center it up!

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Well, that's my start. We are working A LOT of hours...but it sucks to be salary, so I do by building on Saturday in my shop. Up next is building the front upper shock mounts, and bending the hoops. Next Saturday, it should start to take some more shape.


03-23-2014, 08:59 AM
Looks good!

03-23-2014, 09:01 AM
Wow man you have one nice BIG shop. The quality of your work is impressive. Can't remember, but did you score an engine?

03-23-2014, 10:17 AM
Nice! +1 on the shop too.

03-23-2014, 10:50 AM
Oh those waffle fab tables are bitchin'! Square and plumb from the start will avoid problems later. Good lesson for first time builders.

03-23-2014, 03:49 PM
looking great so far... look forward to seeing the frame top section added. If i worked in a shop like that.. i would be fired within a month. i would constantly be scheming on what to build with all the machinery... which means i would be daydreaming more than working. :D

03-23-2014, 11:14 PM

Nice to see you're still pluggin' away at it. I'm still working on the second Cuda ... at the tear it down and paint it stage! One of these days I'll post up the progress. I made a lot of small changes that should add up to a better buggy. If they work well, I'll have to go back and rework the first buggy.
So, do you think you will make the trails this year?


03-25-2014, 05:31 PM
THANKS GUYS! This shop is HUGE! We have 2 shops, one is where we do shearing, forming, water jetting, plasma cutting, machining, and our assembly area. The fab shop (shop 2) is where I am doing my building. The waffle (ACORN) tables are so nice to keep things clamped down while building. I haven't got a motor yet, just getting all of the fab work done here in the shop. I have my hoops all bent up, and I will post pictures up this Saturday.


03-26-2014, 02:45 AM
Acorn. Learning something new every day:D

03-31-2014, 06:10 AM
Acorn. Learning something new every day:D

Oops, it sounded as if I was yelling acorn. Sorry bout that, it's just that that's how its spelled on the table.[smilie=oops.gif]

WELL! I had to "work" all day Saturday, and Sunday. Now this is where being salary is a good thing. I was there for my guys, but I was doing other things....

Unfortunately I didn't take many during photo's. Reason being I was at work, while building...Ya just can't stop and have a beer here and there, and stop to take pictures. So in a way, less beer means more productive? Who would have thought that!?

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It looks a little UFO-ish from the back..

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WELL, I HAD to get in and make vroom-vroom noises...I mean who hasn't at this point of a build! HAAA!!

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Now whats funny, is I have got this far without the wife knowing about the build. Well, she knows now. HAA! She was like it took you this long to build another? She knew how much I missed my Shotgun. This car will be a lot better around the tight trails in Michigan.


03-31-2014, 06:16 AM
Great progress on the frame. Nice work. Did you consider making the nerf bars removable? It's nice to not have to work around them. Just food for thought.

So in a way, less beer means more productive? Who would have thought that!?Now that's funny!
I'm so glad I'm not a beer drinker... (or drinker much at all - total lightweight... two beers and I'm sitting in the corner giggling like a teenaged girl)

Now whats funny, is I have got this far without the wife knowing about the build. Well, she knows now. HAA! She was like it took you this long to build another?That's a good woman there! Congrats on that. :)

Up north
03-31-2014, 06:37 AM
Cool pics Justin! It does look alittle UFO-ish from the rear. I have to agree with Kfab, you must have a good wife

03-31-2014, 07:40 AM
HA! Yeah, she's a keeper. As for the nerf bars, they are removable. They are held in place by 8 bolts. There is a tapped plate on the inside of the frame.


03-31-2014, 08:00 AM
Yeah, she likes going out and getting dirty...

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This was a couple years ago when we met up with RickS and rode Tin Cup in Baldwin..

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It was really muddy, and WET!!

03-31-2014, 08:28 AM
Frame looks great! That welding table has got to make life much easier when putting the frame together.

03-31-2014, 08:30 AM
Oh and over the course of my build the beer breaks have cost me at least 2-3 weeks of productivity:) But they are half the fun!

03-31-2014, 09:38 AM
No offense taken. Stole Wheels signature there.
The UFO pic is cool. Just put that Photon torpedo in the #4 exhaust vent of the Death Star and save us all!
My wife has no interest in any buggy activities. Told her we made good progress this weekend. Got some caustic sarcastic response. Good thing she has no clue how much money I have spent.

04-16-2014, 08:52 PM
nothing really to show, been doing some chassis welding the last few days. I will post up some pics of some welds tomorrow.


06-13-2014, 12:55 AM
How's it coming? I know its tough to get much done in the summer for me too.

06-14-2014, 08:22 PM
Hey K! It has been kinda slow, but steady. I got my rack, and steering components, bushings hi-mis spacers, rear bearings, front spindles, and front hubs from Rick. The past couple weeks I have been machining all the threaded bungs, cutting all the suspension parts and pieces. Today I coped all the a-arm material, and jigged up and welded all the rear arms!! They fit together perfect! That jig plate was well worth the 20 min of water jet time. LOL! I have all the plate work for the rear uprights too.

That rack is really a nice piece, and it fit perfect.! With any luck, I should have all the arms bolted on the car! I really should post some pics..


06-14-2014, 08:31 PM
"I really should post some pics.." Nah..... Words are just as good.

06-22-2014, 02:16 AM
OK! I LOOSLY mocked up the suspension tonight. I have yet to machine a couple link ends for the upper arms, but everything fit up really nice. Steering rack mounts are in, the rack fits perfect. Just waiting on some left hand threaded rod for the rear radius arm end. I am selling my dirt bike....My knees just cant take it any more. It sucks to be getting old....BUT, that will get me MOAR PARTS!! Here are some pics!

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/IMG_6351_zps4dcd8000.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/IMG_6351_zps4dcd8000.jpg.html)
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My bagged 300...LOL
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Some of Ricks nice TIG welding...
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06-22-2014, 03:05 AM
Beautiful welds! Who'd you get to do it?

06-22-2014, 11:04 AM
Sweet! I've got to get a TIG welder and learn to use it.

06-22-2014, 11:39 AM
Beautiful welds! Who'd you get to do it?

HA! My daughter. LOL

06-22-2014, 12:25 PM
And a picture of my rack...[smilie=laugh.gif]

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06-22-2014, 02:31 PM
HA! My daughter. LOL

LOL! great job.

Nice rack dude!....wait ..

Seriously where's the hubs and rack from ? Ricks?

06-22-2014, 03:23 PM
Rack is upside down.
You are not the first to do that.
Flip over and use spacers to make up difference.
Or cut tacks on mount plate and re-tack.

06-22-2014, 03:27 PM
Rack is upside down.
You are not the first to do that.
Flip over and use spacers to make up difference.
Or cut tacks on mount plate and re-tack.

Awww...come on Rick...I wasn't going to say anything!

06-22-2014, 03:30 PM

06-23-2014, 12:03 PM
Awww...come on Rick...I wasn't going to say anything!

[smilie=wub.gif] Good catch guys. I was just testing your, um, eye for detail...yeah, that's it. LOL

I will have to do a little re-work his afternoon.


07-09-2014, 12:51 PM
I figured it out when I turned the shaft and the rack moved the wrong way. I believe I left the mounts in place and put washers between the rack and mount. That allowed everything to work. It was a very small difference when flipped over. I didn't have the front uprights put together yet, so I had to look at the plans to make sure I knew if the steering knuckles were ahead of or behind the uprights.

07-12-2014, 03:52 AM
It seems every time a rack fits perfect right out of the gate ... you're screwed. A member of the rack [smilie=tr_oops.gif] group. We're the special people. :D

07-12-2014, 09:29 PM
has anyone ever thought of leaving it like that and just trying to remember to turn it the opposite way?:rolleyes::eek:

07-13-2014, 01:19 AM
Oh it goes through your mind. Then you just suck it up and cut it out and redo it.

07-13-2014, 12:14 PM
has anyone ever thought of leaving it like that and just trying to remember to turn it the opposite way?:rolleyes::eek:

Yes, for about 10 minutes at 3 am ....

07-22-2014, 09:49 PM
It's an anti theft design built in. LOL!!

Well, no new updates. Very busy with work, and doing a little traveling for work, vacation, and a mission trip to Seoul South Korea....ahhhh, life I guess.


03-22-2015, 07:05 PM
Well, I haven't done much as of the last few months. Been busy snowmobiling, and work. I had some thoughts of selling it and looking at a "store bought" option, but I will need something to work on while I am home. With my new position I will be out of town a lot, yet home a lot for a week or two working from home. I'm gonna need something to do. LOL. So I dusted off the ole AR, and bought some parts. All the CV's, boots, harness, all my master cylinders, calipers, lines, radiator, oil cooler, and my center spool. I went in to work after hours and got busy programming and cutting more parts too! Rear sprocket, rear caliper, front rotors, and some upper shock mounts.

I am working down in Clarksville Tennessee and one of my contractors has a hook up on a 2011 CBR 1000 wrecked bike. I guess his buddy bought it for $300...Sounds cheap to me, but it has been sitting in his barn for a year. I'm gonna try to pick it up fer $500.. Wish me luck!

Oh yeah, the plating line I am installing is a Zinc/Nickel plater. They plate the spindles, and calipers for Chevrolet trucks, and the Camaro. I might see if I can have some parts Zinc plated there on our line! haaa!

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And the radiator I picked up from Rick was POLISHED!! A little bling!
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03-22-2015, 09:27 PM
You're on the wrong side of the state. Hopefully we'll see a first crank this year. :)

03-23-2015, 02:44 PM
Thanks. It is a little boring on this side of Tennessee. I am hoping for a complete car this year, if not for sure by next spring. The kids car first though.


05-29-2015, 04:36 PM
Well, finally home from Tennessee for a while. My next project starts the end of June, down in Cleveland. So I have the rest of May off, and most of June. SWEET!! I do have a "honey-do" list that I am working on too....[smilie=huh.gif] Well, I finally got into the shop and spent a couple hours on the water jet cutting out the petal boxes, the spool carrier parts, a steering bearing support. Been out in the garage a couple hours every night. Kinda nice actually!! Last night I welded up the spool carriers, and held them clamped down over night, and they stayed nice and flat.

I will post up some pictures later tonight.

Tool question for ya'll. As for a riv-nut tool, who has bought one, how did it work for you, and where did ya get it from.



05-29-2015, 07:15 PM
Good to see you back, I like following your builds.

05-30-2015, 01:07 AM
Hi Justin I have some experience with riv nuts. There are 2 methods of installing a rivnut, one is called spin-spin, the other is called spin-pull.
The spin-spin method basically torques the rivnut so much that it colapses and clamps the material. The spin-pull method spins onto the rivnut, then pulls it using a stroke to crimp it. This method is far superior to the spin-spin method, because the spin-spin method can gall the threads and even damage the rivnut. As for buying a rivnut gun, I bought a spin-pull gun at work a few years ago, I don't remember the brand, but I do know the model was a K40.
I work for a die-casting supplier to automotive, we have used rivnuts, and I've torque tested many of them, I can tell you they are not meant for high loading applications. I'd use them maybe to hold some side panels to a buggy, and some wiring down, but nothing more than that.
Sorry for the long winded poste.

05-30-2015, 12:10 PM
Well thanks Bull. Glad I can be of some sort of entertainment value. LOL

Great information Jerm. Yeah, they are for the floor pans, and body work attachment. I wouldn't trust them for more than that.

I still owe this thread some pictures...


05-30-2015, 07:13 PM
Here is the radiator, oil cooler, and the fan all mounted up.

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05-30-2015, 07:19 PM
So the next piece was the lower sprocket and rotor guards. They are made of 1/4" plate, and our brake is out of commission for a week or so. So I went old school in forming it.

I laid out my bend points, used a cut-off wheel and went down almost all the way through, and just bent them by hand, and tacked the corners.
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Next, I did a test fit, and they worked out perfect.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_112016_zpsis650qfj.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_112016_zpsis650qfj.jpg.html)

Just for comparison, the left and right sides.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_112744_zpsjqukuhmo.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_112744_zpsjqukuhmo.jpg.html)

And then glued them together..
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_134832_zpscbftddv3.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_134832_zpscbftddv3.jpg.html)

05-30-2015, 07:21 PM
These are the internal forks used to tighten the chain, and lock the rear spool in place. I have to machine up the cross tube, and then weld it all together.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_134818_zpsgcuv43kg.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_134818_zpsgcuv43kg.jpg.html)

05-30-2015, 07:23 PM
Heck, I even built my petal boxes. They are all hung, and are ready for the petals. I have to cut them out next week. I also have to machine the pivot tubes and the delrin bushings. This just goes together so well!

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_134741_zpswtr1s9da.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_134741_zpswtr1s9da.jpg.html)

05-30-2015, 07:28 PM
Earlier this week I installed all the bushings, and crush sleeves just to make sure things went together. You guessed up, it went together just fine. It is a tight fit where the suspension pivots are, so I will have to have the powder-coater go light in there.

I also bolted up the rotors and the front hubs. Kinda nice to see it all together.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_101151_zps1voiy4i2.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_101151_zps1voiy4i2.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_101126_zpsn68nm2jy.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_101126_zpsn68nm2jy.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_101101_zpsubukslwa.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_101101_zpsubukslwa.jpg.html)

And the booty.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_100932_zpsnljb1c3m.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_100932_zpsnljb1c3m.jpg.html)


05-30-2015, 07:39 PM
Going through my parts pile, I noticed I had all the pieces to assemble the rear spool. So as mentioned earlier, I welded up the shaft collars to the plates that bolt to the adjuster forks. To my surprise, they didn't twist and pull out of whack. I had 3 clamps on each side.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_093901_zpsugqyhnqk.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_093901_zpsugqyhnqk.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_093856_zps4wbmql4h.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_093856_zps4wbmql4h.jpg.html)

After I cleaned them up, I went to town bolting it all together. On went the caliper mount and the caliper.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_100203_zpswij2ev43.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_100203_zpswij2ev43.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_100221_zpswk3jl5lo.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_100221_zpswk3jl5lo.jpg.html)

I just used the long bolts that go through the CV to loosely mock it up
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_100717_zpspjmawwoq.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_100717_zpspjmawwoq.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_100750_zpsackpkwqc.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_100750_zpsackpkwqc.jpg.html)

AANNNNND then took it all back apart to put it in the car. And it is really tight back there. But it all fits in there nice and tidy.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_134624_zpsgrnhgxo3.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_134624_zpsgrnhgxo3.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150530_134639_zpsb65i4ryg.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150530_134639_zpsb65i4ryg.jpg.html)

I bolted in the guards as well, and everything has good clearance.

I am thinking next week getting the fuel cell fabricated, and all the mounts in there. After that, I think I will go ahead and get it painted. There really is no other items that have to get welded in. With the exception of a couple tabs for the skid plate under the motor, light bar mount. The motor is held in by plates welded to shaft collars, and I will mount the exhaust with some sort of clamps as well.

As for color... I am thinking a Yamaha-ish blue chassis, and body panels, white (or silver) control arms and small parts. This time I am going to do a wrap on the body panels with some sort of patriotic theme.

The shocks are going to be King coilovers, with remote reservoirs, and compression adjustment in the resistors. I have had enough time out of town to sort out the details in my noodle. HAA!


06-03-2015, 08:08 PM
Looks good. Did you have your sprocket electroplated? You certainly have the means. I wasn't able to find a cheap option in KY, and I was in a hurry too.

I'll probably take my AR51 to an offroad park sometime this year. Speed limit is 25mph most places, but it's still fun. Trying to convince wife to get RZR so she and kid can follow and tow me out when I break something. :D

06-04-2015, 12:27 AM
Today was craft day with some poster board. I laid out the fuel cell per the drawing, and did a quick check of fitment due to the tight tolerances in the opening for the fuel cell. It worked just fine. I have proper clearance around the cell, and the brake caliper. Now I have to send the file to the water jet to cut the pieces out. I have some bungs to spin up tomorrow too.

Have a look!
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150603_202700_zpsf6qlyqce.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150603_202700_zpsf6qlyqce.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150603_202710_zpsbfj2rpgh.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150603_202710_zpsbfj2rpgh.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150603_202729_zpsld8olmtw.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150603_202729_zpsld8olmtw.jpg.html)

06-04-2015, 12:30 AM
Looks good. Did you have your sprocket electroplated? You certainly have the means. I wasn't able to find a cheap option in KY, and I was in a hurry too.

I'll probably take my AR51 to an offroad park sometime this year. Speed limit is 25mph most places, but it's still fun. Trying to convince wife to get RZR so she and kid can follow and tow me out when I break something. :D

I have not got them electroplated. We just ran out of time on the job site I was on to get them done.

Sounds like we need to bug Rick about a 2 seat version, and use an Apex drive train, so no shifting. In my case, I will need seating for 6. LOL

06-04-2015, 11:56 PM
So I went ahead and turned my poster board model int to the real deal. She is a squeeze, but it has 1/8" to 3/16" clearance all the way around.

This is the inside of the tank with the tapped stainless bungs bolted into place.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150604_181128_zpsyomngvcw.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150604_181128_zpsyomngvcw.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150604_181118_zps1kcbakqm.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150604_181118_zps1kcbakqm.jpg.html)

With a little massaging, this should fit up pretty good.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/20150604_181153_zpsyadlpvby.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/20150604_181153_zpsyadlpvby.jpg.html).


06-05-2015, 12:30 AM
Nice to see you back at it Justin.
Very nice work as well .

06-05-2015, 12:51 AM
Very slick!

Lets see some welds!

How did you weld the bungs?

06-14-2015, 01:50 PM
Thanks fellas!! The cell is all tacked up at the shop. When I get back in there to weld it up, will post up some pictures. I decided to work on Mason's car for a bit. I will have to post pics of that on his build thread.


08-10-2015, 10:25 AM
Any progress on this?

08-10-2015, 11:36 AM
Man, I wish! I spent half of June, and half of July in Juarez Mexico for work, and I am currently on 2 and a half week stints to Cleveland until the middle of October. BUT, I have all of November, and all of December off!! WOOO HOOO! Part of my contract through work is I get 125 paid days off a year. I have 60 yet.


08-10-2015, 07:07 PM
Oh what a great place to be - Juarez
Are you wearing bullet proof gear? [smilie=icon_bolt.g:

08-11-2015, 11:46 AM
HA! No gear here! I even took out my contractors out to lunch, and rode in the back of a pick-up truck. Kinda felt like being a kid again. I definitely keep my head on a swivel. I'm headed to Nashville today. But the off road stuff in Juarez, and ElPaso is pretty awesome!


09-27-2015, 02:36 AM
someone tell me where to get the drawings of the buggy?

09-27-2015, 08:52 AM
someone tell me where to get the drawings of the buggy?


10-08-2015, 05:26 PM
So there has been a little progress lately. Been in Cleveland a lot this summer, and now I had a little time off. I ordered the rear shocks. I Went with King coil-overs, withe the remote reservoir with compression clickers. My last build I wish I went with something a little easier to dial in. They are a week out yet, but then I can verify the location of the upper rear mount.

I got all the skid plates cut out, and the side panels cut, and formed as well. All holes are drilled, and the riv-nuts will go in tomorrow.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/532_zpsbnep9ax9.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/532_zpsbnep9ax9.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/548_zpsrqfekx9f.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/548_zpsrqfekx9f.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/549_zpsmipqx9jr.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/549_zpsmipqx9jr.jpg.html)

OK, now I made 2 different bonnet pieces. One is a full piece, and the other just covers the top. What do ya think??

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/550_zpsih5bn6oa.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/550_zpsih5bn6oa.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/551_zpsspgrul9t.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/551_zpsspgrul9t.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/552_zpsvvw2ny89.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/552_zpsvvw2ny89.jpg.html)

And this is the more naked one. I kinda like the full cover

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/553_zpsknegwilo.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/553_zpsknegwilo.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/554_zpsfngkuow7.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/554_zpsfngkuow7.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/555_zpsidccinhz.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/555_zpsidccinhz.jpg.html)

Piece by piece, it's making progress!


10-09-2015, 07:49 AM
I go have to give some credit to the Aussies black AR. I really like the bonnet piece on that car, so that's where I got the idea for the full piece. Gotta give credit where credit is due.


11-03-2015, 12:37 PM
So, I had a cool delivery last week! My rear shocks! The reservoirs are larger than I thought, so below are some locations as to where I am going to mount them. I also ordered my wheels. The standard AR-51 Vision 159's in a 14" flavor.
Per my contract through work, I will be off from Nov 13 until January 1, payed, however we are spread very thin in the field service dept so they are looking into "making it worth my while" to finish the year out in Cleveland... This will buy LOTS-o-parts!

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/181_zps8gqweqmi.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/181_zps8gqweqmi.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/182_zpste3irbmr.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/182_zpste3irbmr.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/184_zpsuma9odut.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/184_zpsuma9odut.jpg.html)

11-04-2015, 08:26 AM
Awesome to see progress! New stuff like shocks make me drool. haha

I'm gonna do the same shocks except with piggyback rezzys.

11-05-2015, 02:19 PM
Great looking build!

11-07-2015, 06:53 AM
Thanks fellas! A just bought my wheels, seat, and a cool LED light bar. I'm over here in Cleveland, and saw that Summit Racing is just south of where I am, so I went shopping! HAA!! That place is like a candy store for gear-heads!!


11-07-2015, 02:26 PM
I'd love to get in the brick and mortar store like that. Summit's catalog is always fun to thumb through.

11-26-2015, 08:37 AM
Up next are the tires. I think I'm gonna do 28's all the way around, instead of the specified 26's in the front and the 28's in the rear. here is my thoughts... I am running coil-overs to lower the stance a little, therefore run 28x9's in the front, I can get back some ground clearance at rest. Another thought is that I am running 14" wheels, and with 28's it will give me some more sidewall too.

1st choice.

2nd choice

Any thoughts on these tires? I know Rick uses the Mudlites,and his car hooks pretty good, and can drift pretty good. If I go too agressive, could there be a possibility of rolling on a really hard corner? Just thinking out loud.


11-26-2015, 10:32 AM
I'm running the 28" Mudlites all around ony current build.
Not sure how it will affect handelling, but I really like the look.
I think Jason ran the mud tires all around on his car.
Here's where I'm at with mine.
http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo76/Krasch_Design/Mobile%20Uploads/5890F8D8-3753-499D-8C1D-5A79332170D4.jpg (http://s363.photobucket.com/user/Krasch_Design/media/Mobile%20Uploads/5890F8D8-3753-499D-8C1D-5A79332170D4.jpg.html)

11-26-2015, 10:47 AM


11-26-2015, 10:49 AM
Is that a suspension seat i see in there?!

12-04-2015, 04:24 PM
Been a while since I have posted... Looks great.

A cuppola items. I ran the aggressive mud tires on the front of my Cudda the first season. Every time I turned tight in sand I took a good size bucket of dirt in the face. They really like to throw up a lot of dirt. The next year I traded for a less aggressive tread and was much happier. Handling (at least in the dirt) is much the same.

As for a full bonnet vs. a strip in the center. I opted for the full bonnet and have never regretted the decision... especially when the trails are wet!

12-04-2015, 04:40 PM
By the way. I have a set of front tires with the aggressive tread that I will give you cheep if you want them. :D


12-04-2015, 08:04 PM
Yes I went with a suspension seat on this one.
I had to raise the steering column a little to create more clearance to the steering wheel.

12-06-2015, 07:52 AM
Hello! And who can share drawings?

12-07-2015, 11:19 AM

12-22-2015, 10:33 AM
Well, Still been busy, but I did get some parts ordered, and set in place.

I have my lil helper with the shocks
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/019_zpsyoodhhpf.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/019_zpsyoodhhpf.jpg.html)

Boom, wheels, light bar, and a seat!
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/231_zpswojf9fmv.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/231_zpswojf9fmv.jpg.html)

I will have some time between Christmas and New Years to get the light bar mounted, and the seat mounted. Baby steps.. We are going to Korea this spring to get our son, so our adoption is eating up most of my extra cash, but it's well worth it. I am hoping to have it on all 4's in a month or two.


12-22-2015, 02:58 PM
Congrats Justin! Is this number three?

Cars lookin good!

12-22-2015, 06:17 PM
is that the same little helper that was coloring on the sides a while ago? :) actually, I might be thinking of another build.

what kind of tires are you going with? and dang, that front rim looks wiiiiiiiddddde. probably just the picture though.

12-22-2015, 08:00 PM
is that the same little helper that was coloring on the sides a while ago? :) actually, I might be thinking of another build.

what kind of tires are you going with? and dang, that front rim looks wiiiiiiiddddde. probably just the picture though.

HAA! It is the same one who helped on my Shotgun custom graphix! And they do look wide in the pic. The fronts are 14x7, and the rears are 14x9.


12-22-2015, 08:03 PM
Congrats Justin! Is this number three?

Cars lookin good!

Thanks bud. Actually this will be #4! Mason came home in 2008, Maya (the one in the pic) came home in 2010, Josie came home in 2012, and Easton the latest one will be home in 2016. Beyond blessed to he a dad of 4. Busy, but blessed...LOL. BTW, they are all adopted from Seoul, South Korea.


12-31-2015, 06:11 PM
Tires! I ordered them from Amazon on Christmas day, and they showed up Tuesday. WAY good deal on the ITP mudlight XL's, with free shipping. I have to get them mounted, and I will post up some pictures. I also build a cool light bar mount.


HaPPy NeW YeaR!![smilie=gun_gun.gif][smilie=gun_gun.gif][smilie=gun_gun.gif][smilie=gun_gun.gif][smilie=gun_gun.gif]

02-11-2016, 11:47 AM
Pictures! I am finally done in Cleveland! I have some time off before I go back to Mexico for work. The wife has kitchen re-do plans though. LOL! Below are a couple shots of a roller!

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/088_zpszu7bzdzr.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/088_zpszu7bzdzr.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/168_zps83j9gofc.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/168_zps83j9gofc.jpg.html)

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http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/169_zpsd9yzhplc.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/169_zpsd9yzhplc.jpg.html)

02-15-2016, 06:44 PM
Awesome. The feeling you get when you get it off the table into the roller is the best. Looking great!

02-17-2016, 02:55 PM
Ah man that looks amazing!

03-11-2016, 11:03 PM
So, my lower back has been giving me issues, so I decided to get a new seat. I sprung for a Corbeau suspension seat. In fact it actually sits lower in the chassis! It is VERY comfy!

03-18-2016, 03:13 PM
That thing looks soo cool!

03-19-2016, 02:21 AM
I sprung for a Corbeau suspension seat.

I see what you did there!

04-12-2016, 01:31 PM
Well, nothing new as of lately, as I am in central Mexico in a place the locals call "little Detroit" There is so many factories down here. Well I put in my resume for a different position within the company that will keep me in the office more than in the field, which equals more time with the family, and will yield more hobby time too.

Well, I have a question about rivnuts. Do you install them before powder coat? I think yes, and here is why. First I can assemble everything for fitment, and the powder will seal the rivnut to the chassis somewhat, as long as I have a dummy bolt in the hols to prevent powder to get on the threads. Any other thoughts?

I did manage to get my axles and micro-stubs from Rick. I was heading to a customer in Cleveland, and had to pick up some replacement pumps at a supplier literally 20 min from where Rick works. So I texted Rick to see if I could do a pick-up on some parts, and he was cool with that. He was kind enough to give me a tour of Knight Industries, and they make some way cool equipment there!

I am down to front shocks, springs, and an engine. I still have to build a shifter, but I want the engine in place first. Still should be this year to run it!


spud nut
04-13-2016, 04:32 PM
Looking great!
Now I just need to get off my but and build mine.
Thanks for the push.

04-13-2016, 06:16 PM
Looks awesome Justin! Probably a good thing I haven't been on here in a few years, or there'd be 3 getting built in A town! ;)

04-14-2016, 02:16 PM
Looks awesome Justin! Probably a good thing I haven't been on here in a few years, or there'd be 3 getting built in A town! ;)

HAA!! Very true! Good to see you back on here. I'll have to send you a message when I am back in town for a bit to stop over and check it out.


04-19-2016, 06:39 PM
HAA!! Very true! Good to see you back on here. I'll have to send you a message when I am back in town for a bit to stop over and check it out.


Sounds great, would love to come check it out sometime!

04-27-2016, 01:54 AM
Stay seated...pictures..
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/249_zpszkoyixn3.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/249_zpszkoyixn3.jpg.html)

And for my A.D.D friends...some shiny stuff..My electrical component housing
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/250_zps5xhpgxly.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/250_zps5xhpgxly.jpg.html)


06-27-2016, 05:00 PM
Nothing new to post. Still down in Mexico at the Toyoda-Goesi plant. I did however get a promotion to project coordinator! Home A LOT more which was my main goal for applying internally for this position. Plus we are traveling to Korea 2 times for our adoption. First trip is 8-21 to 8-29. Pretty stoked


06-27-2016, 07:47 PM
Congrats on the promo!

More kids! Awesome!

Do you have a number your shooting for?

I see a new reality show....."The Deranged 19!"

06-27-2016, 09:22 PM
congrats on more kids!

I put riv nuts in before powder coat,,, no problem they plug the threads to keep powder out

06-28-2016, 11:53 AM
Is that a baja SS seat or ?

09-05-2016, 02:22 AM
Well, it's my quarterly update! HAAA. Well, We were in Seoul South Korea last week to meet our son, and go to court for him. It went awesome, ok onto the car....LOL Well, today I picked up a complete 2003 GSXR 750 with 25k on the clock. It was laid down, and the owner wanted it out of his garage. The forks are tweaked, but I rode it and shifted it through all the gears and sounds great with a full Yosh exhaust. I picked it up for 800 bucks! I will be able to sell off all the good bits and pieces too.

Now I can place the engine and figure out my shifter, and off to get powder-coated and back for final assembly!


09-17-2016, 02:47 PM
Well here is the bike.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/14264953_10207536000426176_2023105242505735166_n_z psiuyofwgq.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/14264953_10207536000426176_2023105242505735166_n_z psiuyofwgq.jpg.html)

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/Bike2_zpsbv4wa0qk.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/Bike2_zpsbv4wa0qk.jpg.html)

And after a couple beers, and a couple hours later, wiring is out, motor is out, and exhaust off. Now once I get back from Mexico, I can get it mounted, make a shifter, and exhaust, and then it will be time to powder coat!
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q124/jterrell731/Diss_zpsmxpcn91d.jpg (http://s135.photobucket.com/user/jterrell731/media/Diss_zpsmxpcn91d.jpg.html)


09-18-2016, 04:47 PM
Looking good!

10-17-2016, 04:27 PM
Well, I have everything in place to get an accurate weight to buy some springs for this thing! Any guesses on an overall weight? I have my scales ready to go. I have to build a "hood" for it, and weld on the mirror mounts and build the header. Then it will be off to powder coat! I think I am going to do a maroon chassis, flat black a-arms, silver uprights, petals, tie-rods, and axles.


10-17-2016, 06:38 PM
Well, here are the numbers..
Front, with me in the car. 442#
Rear, with me in the car. 638#

Total- 1,080#

This was without a battery, fuel, and shocks, so a heavy estimate with all things installed I would say 1,150# ready to roll. Honestly, it's a little heavier than I would have thought, but it should scoot along very nice. I looked up my trusty coil spring calculators, and the one on the FOA site is down. Oh well, I am going to have my friend Neal, at Griffen Fab Works order my front shocks, and the coils from King. I am thinking of having it set up at 40% droop. This will set me down lower than if it had air shocks, but still give me some ground clearance.

On a side note regarding the use of coil-overs, there will be a clearance issue on the lower front arm. There is the shock mount, and just inboard there is a tube connecting the arms. The bottom spring seat on the shock hits. No biggie, as I will just cut a longer tube to move the support inboard a little. This is only due to me running coil-overs, vs the air shocks and reflects nothing to the design of the front end.


12-10-2016, 03:51 AM
So, I need to do a proper update. Front shocks still on order, as well as the springs. No need until final assembly. The seat is mounted, and feels really nice.
I picked up a set of LED lights for the front and got them mounted up with some angle iron.
http://i.imgur.com/7Akkftr.jpg (http://imgur.com/7Akkftr)

Here are the cool resi mounts. The font, I went with piggy backs for ease of install, and not having to mount the resi. And my air cleaner cover is crooked...LOL
http://i.imgur.com/8LOiezS.jpg (http://imgur.com/8LOiezS)
I made a quick steel skeleton for the front sheet metal.
http://i.imgur.com/ffSqGRN.jpg (http://imgur.com/ffSqGRN)

I skipped the shop Christmas party, and machined out some parts for my shifter.
http://i.imgur.com/RCF4fsg.jpg (http://imgur.com/RCF4fsg)

The above lever pushes on the below bell-crank.
http://i.imgur.com/DAQGabv.jpg (http://imgur.com/DAQGabv)

And then pushes on the stock shift arm.
http://i.imgur.com/b61hdsm.jpg (http://imgur.com/b61hdsm)

OOOHHHHH I got some paddle tires too! I payed 45 bucks for them! Actually I cashed in some IHG points for Amazon gift cards. HAAA Now what I will do for wheels is 14x10 beadlocks with a RZR bolt pattern, and machine some adapters. I could not find a 14' wheel with a 10" width for a 5 on 4.5 bolt pattern. Oh well the beadlocks are Vision wheels, and look pretty nice.
http://i.imgur.com/B9artLS.jpg (http://imgur.com/B9artLS)

I am down to exhaust, mirrors, and a brake light mount. Looks like powdercoat by new years, and then final assembly. Pretty stoked.


12-10-2016, 12:19 PM
Ok, I switched to IMGUR for my pictures because photobucket was, and has been being stupid. I hope the pictures aren't too big.


12-10-2016, 12:33 PM
Pics are perfect.

Nice welding! Looks really strong.

12-19-2016, 01:14 AM
So this weekend I got my threaded rod for the heim joints to finish up the shift rods. Works awesome!

I am using a nice suspension seat, so I had to make a heat shield so my seat doesn't melt. LOL. I will do a little bead rolling to stiffen it up a bit. Today was arts and crafts day in the garage, making "CAD" drawings. HAA! The slots in the middle, on the top are for my shoulder straps. I also picked up a super nice PRP harness too.


A dialed in my hood piece. I am adding a 2" lip as a deflector of some sort, and to add some dimension to the hood. I should have the actual hood cut out tomorrow.


As for my dash, I am using 75% of the original design, but I fit it to work with my hood piece, and will look super cool all together!!

Tonight I diced up my header, and I have a plan. I now need to order some 1.75, and some 2.250 stainless pipe. I will probably get a couple of the 45*, 180* pre-bent pipes, and go from there. Once that is wrapped up, and my muffler in place, it is off to paint!!!!!! About dang time. LOL


12-19-2016, 03:07 AM
I'm sure your welds will turn out better than mine on the exhaust. I used C25 and pop-pop-popped my way around the stainless with some expensive stainless wire. Ah, the memories (and random burn scars). I put a firewall of sorts between my engine and seat, and I still need to dimple that thing to knock out the resonance that develops at a few different RPMs. I have the plastic seat, so I didn't want to see how hot it might get. I think I used .040" aluminum for that.

12-19-2016, 03:11 AM
I've been guesstimating that the weight on my AR51 is around 1300# since I used heavier pipe. I'm probably not too far off based on your weights.

12-19-2016, 03:16 AM
Note that my fuel pressure regulator came loose on my 2003 GSXR750 fuel pump after a few miles of buggy duty (http://fawbush.org/images/2012_9_3_buggy_fuel_pump/pressure_reg_fixed.jpg). I used expensive tie wraps to hold it in place after I figured out the issue. My hands hurt just thinking about all the gas I played with and the o-rings on the injectors I damaged while troubleshooting. Thankfully, Rick was able to find and bring properly sized o-rings that I installed in the UP before we went riding around the potatoe fields.

My chrome reports that the minibuggy link may have malware so here is a direct link to the fuel pump picture: http://fawbush.org/images/2012_9_3_buggy_fuel_pump/pressure_reg_fixed.jpg

12-19-2016, 04:36 PM
Thanks Jason, I do remember you putting that all back together the day you got to the UP. I do have some chemical resistant zip ties that I was going to use for your modification. As for the stainless, I am going to use tri-mix. Off the top of my head, I don't know the mixtures, but it does have argon in it. I will tack it up at home, and weld it up at work more than likely.


12-30-2016, 01:03 AM
Well, I got my aluminum cut out, trimmed, and formed. I clamped everything together, and tweaked my bends to get things perfect.
I riveted my hood pieces together,and used those sweet rivnuts to bolt the rest of the hood down. Turned out pretty slick.

And I also trimmed and fit the small piece where my stock GSXR handlebar switches are going to be mounted. The white template will be riveted to the hood as well.


Hey, some more work done too! This was rather.....exhausting..... I picked up some pre bent pipe off of flea-bay. a piece of 1.75, ans 1.25 stainless U-bend, with a 45* bend. Sliced and diced, and came up with this.

I did screw up a little. I didn't have my fuel cell in place, so my muffler will have to move a bit. Oops.

Just a dash shot.

And tonight I picked up my front coilovers, and my rear coils! Looks SICK!

I have to clearance the lower arms more. I originally thought I would only have to move the cross tube, but I will have to section them a bit to clear the coil. I will also put another tube under the lower mount, and box it in to strengthen where I will cut out. Getting really close to paint! I am really glad I waited to double check things like my exhaust, and lower arm clearance.

Oh, and I placed my shift pivot point too low. It hits the radius arm....DOH! I will just cut it off, and raise it up a couple inches.

12-30-2016, 01:10 AM
the shape of the A-10 kinda looks like the profile of the AR.... Just sayin'


12-30-2016, 01:50 AM
Machine looks awesome!

Those shocks are seriously bad ass looking on there.

What thickness are you using for your panels?

12-30-2016, 02:09 PM
Machine looks awesome!

Those shocks are seriously bad ass looking on there.

What thickness are you using for your panels?
Thanks MACMAN! All of the sheet metal is .050 stuff I picked up at the local steel supply place. The larger sheets were all water cut, and the smaller ones I sheared out. Making good accurate templates is a key to things going smoothly.


12-30-2016, 03:09 PM
looks good, like I knew it would!

Gonna be a blast with those shocks!

Watch out Nicken!

12-30-2016, 05:08 PM
Thanks MACMAN! All of the sheet metal is .050 stuff I picked up at the local steel supply place. The larger sheets were all water cut, and the smaller ones I sheared out. Making good accurate templates is a key to things going smoothly.


Water cutting and a shear?! I'll be using a jigsaw and a grinder LOL!! Oh...I Got a killer set of hand files too...[smilie=ecstatic.gi:

12-30-2016, 07:11 PM
Water cutting and a shear?! I'll be using a jigsaw and a grinder LOL!! Oh...I Got a killer set of hand files too...[smilie=ecstatic.gi:

HAHAA! Yeah, the shop I work for is pretty cool. LOL I do the fine tuning with the files, jigsaw and the good ole death wheel.


spud nut
12-31-2016, 04:29 PM
Lov'in it. keep it up.

01-05-2017, 11:21 AM
Ok, I was able to modify the lower arms to clear the coil. Again, this is something I deviated from the plans, and went with a 2.0 coilover vs the air shock called out in the plans. But I notched, and plated the areas needed next to the coil, and I also did some plate work to the lower arm to stiffen things back up. Turned out pretty good.
AND then I was able to actually bolt things together and make a true roller!
And on another night, I moved my muffler to clear the gas tank. I guess that was an important thing. LOL

I think my front coils are a little on the heavy side. I may drop down to a 200 vs 250 on the smaller coil. But I will do that during shock tuning. I think my valving on the front is good, but the rear feels pretty stiff, even dialed back to the softest click on the clicker. We will see when I hit the trails! I have some electrical tabs, and a tail light to mount. I will do this as I tear it down for the last time.


01-05-2017, 11:24 AM
Oh yeah, I also picked up a bead roller too! It's an Eastwood model very similar to the Harbor Freight one. I will have to modify it to stiffen it up from what I am reading, but I will be able to bead roll some panels.


01-05-2017, 03:58 PM
Nice...getting close!

01-07-2017, 04:58 AM
Great looking build and awesome looking buggy!!

01-26-2017, 04:49 PM
Thanks fellas.
Well, it's about that time! I ordered up my powder, and I will be cleaning all my parts this weekend in preparation for powdercoating!
Here is my stack o parts.

Each pile represents a different color.

And i bought a bead roller for another project, and made it better.

Next pictures will be of nice shiny parts.


01-26-2017, 06:40 PM
Woo hoo! Color time. Lots of stuff to cover, eh?

I have the same Craftsman roller stool and the bottom shelf is in similar condition. I love that it slides up under my bench out of the way.

01-27-2017, 04:16 PM
Looking good, man you're fast at building these buggies. You got more snow than I do!

02-27-2017, 11:04 AM
FINALLY a little time to get the powder coat stuff done! Now the chassis is up next. HOPEFULLY I can get that into the shop, blasted, and powder coated next week. So, here are the clean parts so far.
Here is where I ordered my powdercoat. The guys in the shop did an awesome job so far, and this is the color the chassis will be.

02-27-2017, 11:05 AM
The arms are a semi gloss, textured finish. Super cool


spud nut
02-27-2017, 12:59 PM
very nice, It's going to be awesome. can't wait to see it done.

02-27-2017, 02:20 PM
The parts look great, and that cherry color is going to look killer on the chassis!

03-27-2017, 11:17 AM
OK! here is my monthly update. LOL Lots of work travels, kid stuff, and some general laziness due tot eh fact that I literally JUST started watching The Walking Dead on Netflix. HAHA! Well, we have a powder coated chassis!
It is a 2 stage powder. The parts were de-greased, and phosphate washed. We dried it, and then baked it at 200 for a little bit to dry up any water.

Here is the base coat if you will. Looks rusty. LOL

After it cooked at 350 for a little bit, this is what it looks like. Kinda purple
Then we let it cool to maybe 100 or so. The next step was to spray cocaine on the stripper glitter.
Cook at 400, for 10 min, and I now have a dark cherry metallic chassis!


03-27-2017, 11:24 AM
And now the task of re assembling. I have had this together many times, so the assembly should go good. In fact, it has gone really well. Next weekend, I will button some more items up like the brake lines, install the sprocket, rear rotor and other small mechanical items. I have to get my cables, hoses, and a fuel pump flange for the gas tank yet, but it is definitely looking pretty cool.


03-27-2017, 01:24 PM
Looking great!

I am not able to work on mine except for winter time...I could slap it together and make something that runs but would not ever be finished...I've thought really hard about that.

After seeing your machine, I refuse to slap it together...mine will never look as good as yours, but it makes me want to wait until I have time to finish it properly...or as properly as I can anyways!

spud nut
03-27-2017, 03:39 PM
Way to go Justin, absolutely GORGEOUS!!!!

03-27-2017, 04:33 PM
Very nice. That color will look amazing out in the sunlight!

03-28-2017, 01:39 PM
Very tidy.

03-30-2017, 02:23 PM
That is stunning!

Are those a set of the Ultra-Light Air rims? They seem to be off center a tad.

03-31-2017, 02:52 AM
Great looking buggy....are those the pro armor rear paddles ? If so....good choice

04-05-2017, 05:14 PM
Thanks fellas! It feels good to be THIS freaking close to getting this going. Yeah, K, the wheels came from Billy Lane....Hubl-ess. lol
I will post some more assembly pictures later.


04-05-2017, 05:16 PM
Great looking buggy....are those the pro armor rear paddles ? If so....good choice

I believe off the top of my head, they are sti's.


04-10-2017, 10:59 AM
Well, the assembly seems to be going very well. I have all the electrical planned out, and have studied the schematics, and have a pretty good understanding of it. Just enough to be dangerous, lol. Once you know the basics of what everything does, and get a solid plan of where everything goes, it's not as bad as it looks. I will post up some more pics later tonight of the details.


04-11-2017, 06:51 PM
The electrical has begun. After studying the wiring diagrams, it's not too bad. The harness seems to be rather simple especially when I am literally using all of it. With the kickstand switch, I just bolted it up next to the 90* bend to think it's up all the time. I will run the light bar on the roof off of my high beam switch, and the lower lights with the low beams. Turn signal wires have to be extended, but all in all pretty straight forward.

Some shots of the parts I am mounting.
Battery tray.
And most of the plugs in the pic below plug in. The wires out of the loom have to be extended.
So many little details. LOL But I have ALL day on Friday to button things up, and hopefully fire it up!

04-11-2017, 07:27 PM
I like the AR51's ta start but ya raised the bar on yours man very nice work it gotta feel great to be about ready for the shake down Ae!!!

04-11-2017, 07:49 PM
Thanks brotha, I'm happier than a fat rat in a cheese factory.

04-15-2017, 10:09 PM
Today's activities were to line out the wiring. I extended the main loom, and soldered all the wires and shrink wrapped the connections. I ran an aux 12v wire in the main loom from the battery for if I wanted to add a switch or something at the dash. I routed the roof light, fan wiring, rear turn and brake light wiring all in one loom into the electrical box, and the roof light wiring up to the high beam leg of the harness. I am using the low beams as the lights in the front, and the high beams will go to the roof lights. I am hoping that when the high beams are on, the low beams are on too as well. I am just being really picky with the routing and the connections. I am also going to run a ground wire to the chassis, and the engine. Too many times I read about the lack of grounding. Tomorrow I have to tie in the 3 stator wires that had sweet spade connectors that were all melted, and I have to extend the rectifier wires. I should have fire in the holes tomorrow!!


04-17-2017, 12:56 AM
It's alive!! Pretty stoked! now to plumb it, axles to install and the clutch and throttle cables. Too bad I'll be out of town the next couple weeks.


04-17-2017, 04:20 PM
So Friday we had off as a holiday, and I had a really good day of tinkering. I locked down the front suspension, got the harness in, the seat heat shield, seat in, floor pan in place. I used some 1/8" one sided sticky cork to seal up the floor pan, and some of the sheet metal panels. The master cylinders in, gas petal assembled, and the return spring all set up, and the rear suspension locked down.

As mentioned above, the wiring is 95% there, and just have to plumb the radiator. Here are some more pics.
The main harness
The aftermath of soldering a boat load of wires, and I had almost every tool out on that same bench later in the day, but my OCD got to me and had to clean everything up and put things away to continue working.
All the body panels on, and I cant get enough of looking at it. HAAA

04-17-2017, 05:01 PM
That looks fantastic! Interested in your cork application for the floor boards, and how it performs.

04-17-2017, 05:35 PM
Looks beautiful, a work of art

04-17-2017, 08:13 PM
Looks great...hop your azz in that seat and get a pic!

05-05-2017, 04:51 AM
Looks awesome. Only question I have is on your seat positioning. To me it looks like your seat is at quite the angle leaning back, is there a reason for this or are my eyes drunk?

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05-05-2017, 11:40 AM
Nice color

05-05-2017, 01:33 PM
Woo Hoo!!

She looks really good - now go get it dirty. (:

05-05-2017, 02:42 PM
Wow man... that's the money shot!


05-09-2017, 11:42 PM
Nice work Justin! very clean work

05-11-2017, 10:45 AM
Looks awesome. Only question I have is on your seat positioning. To me it looks like your seat is at quite the angle leaning back, is there a reason for this or are my eyes drunk?

I think the picture is tricking your eyes. The front mounting holes are maybe 1-1/4" higher than the rear holes, plus the seat back is leaned back a little bit. It is SUPER comfortable! Very happy I went with that style seat.


05-11-2017, 10:49 AM
MUCH appreciated fellas. Once again, work has bogged me down from finishing the loose ends. BUT I got some bead-locks for the car now! They are a set of 14"x 7" Racelines in the front, and 14"x 10" in the back. I think I may get rid of my silver wheels. Maybe.
Now to make them fit. I will have to machine up 4 adapters, but no biggie.

And yes, these are just mocked up, and I dropped a bolt. For those looking at the details. LOL

05-16-2017, 03:07 AM
Nice looking set of wheels. To bad it's hard to find wheels in the 5x4.5 pattern that are sxs wheels or similar. I've thought about making some adapters myself when it comes time.

05-23-2017, 04:22 PM
Thanks GSI. Once I make the adapters I will be unlimited as to wheel choices. Plus I can easily try other paddle tires with the guys I know with RZR's.

On a side note, I got the cooling system plumbed in, and I let it run in the driveway for what seemed like forever to get the system up to 220 to make sure the cooling fan kicked on as designed. It didn't. Not sure if it is due to the location of the fan switch location not being in the radiator anymore, but a foot away. I will have to pull it out to verify the switch operation in some boiling water or something.

I also did some looking into the torque numbers and this 750 has 12 ft-LBS MORE than my old CBR 1000 engine. HUH.

AND I also got my axles installed and ordered my cables. Very close to a test drive!

05-31-2017, 01:41 AM
So disregard the above figures of the 750 vs the ole 1000. I must have had pages crossed. Lol.

I finally got my cables for the throttle and clutch from California push pull. Installed them and FINALLY took it for a spin. Amazingly nimble, and you can drift the rear end out quite effortlessly. I also went with a GSXR 1000 13 tooth sprocket on the front. I want to get some more seat time in this weekend. The suspension feels really nice, as well as the suspension seat. The clutch and shifting with the left hand feels pretty good too. Just a little funny going to stab the clutch petal and tap the rear brake. Lol. I've gotta get some video and pictures up.


06-01-2017, 04:29 PM
This video may, or may not work. First test drive!

06-03-2017, 12:38 AM
Freakin awesome man! you had to have the same grin I had when I took mine out for the first time. lol

06-03-2017, 05:40 PM
Freakin awesome man! you had to have the same grin I had when I took mine out for the first time. lol

Haa thanks dude! It felt awesome to get out.

Taking it around the small fields around the house is great for my initial shakedown runs. Iv'e been playing with the shocks a little. The initial set-up feels good, but I think I will go a little lighter on the compression stack. I will put in a flutter stack to help out the little hits. Another thing I will be adding is a second "air gap" heat shield to the one I already have. On my short runs my back gets pretty warm. I may add a small fan to the shield too, or possibly add some wings to grab some air. I did this to my old car and it helped out a lot.

My temp creeps up to 200, and the fan is supposed to kick on at 220. I only got it up that hot idling in the driveway. I may put in a lower temp switch. There are 2 temp sensors. One reads to the dash, and the computer, which is before the radiator and the actual fan switch is after the radiator. My thoughts is it has already cooled the coolant down and will not see the 220 as the dash reads 220. That is my theory anyways. My other thought is to just add a simple switch and relay to turn the fan on all the time.

One thing I did too was I added a delrin sleeve to the shift shaft to keep the chain from smacking it upon decel. Seems to hold up pretty well, but I can hear the delrin spinning on the shift shaft. I think this may keep the wear down on the delrin. time will tell. Otherwise I will need an idler sprocket to clear the shift shaft.

Moar updates later.


09-07-2018, 04:25 PM
So I am currently working a modification of the car. I am getting rid of the light bar and swapping that out with 3, 4" HID lights. The light bar didn't put out near as much light as I was expecting. Heck, I think just one of the HID units put out more light than the bar!

Well what I did was I made up a couple of U shaped pieces out of 1" .062 wall tubing and welded them into an oval. I then mounted that to the old light bar mounts.

With everything mocked up it looks pretty cool!

Tonight I will be making a tie rod of sorts that will go just above the middle light and extend back to my chassis. This will stabilize the assembly as well as give me quick and accurate up and down adjustment. Stay tuned!

09-08-2018, 06:03 AM
That things mint.

09-09-2018, 02:42 PM
Dang, wish I would have seen your post earlier, I have the same set up that was on my car, It has 4-4" HID light and the same set up your talking about. If you know anyone else interested I will sell it for $100.

09-13-2018, 11:06 AM
The light project turned out pretty good! I added a tie rod to adjust the lights up and down and got it all painted up.
The stock GSXR light circuit did NOT like the addition of these lights. LOL So today I will be running 3 individual circuits from the battery, to 3 relays and 3 switches. That way I can turn each light on one at a time to reduce the initial start-up strain in the battery and charging system. I will know how well they work this Saturday. It's the last day that the dunes are open until 10pm. I was out there last Saturday and it gets reallllly dark. Just my 2 cheap Ebay LED lights on the front of my car did pretty good for what they are.

09-15-2018, 02:56 PM
This project just keeps getting better and better. That install turned out great!

Streb, I sent you a PM concerning your lights.

09-15-2018, 05:12 PM
The light pod turned out awesome!

09-17-2018, 01:20 PM
Thanks guys!
Well things escalated quickly in the past few days. I pulled the trigger on an 05 Hayabusa engine kit. It has 13,000 miles and came with a header, wiring harness, key switch, gauges, and a 2-Brothers Juice Box. I bought it locally from a dealer of auto and power-sport parts. They threw in the Juicebox and the ignition switch for free. Pretty cool dealing with someone locally as I negotiated the price down to $2,700. The bike was a custom bike with a bunch of polished stuff and a nice paint job. There wasn't any huge damage, just all over damage that totaled the bike out.

There are some other big plans for the car for the long ass winter we have in Michigan too.... Stay tuned.


09-17-2018, 01:40 PM
Oh, and a little quick video from the "night run" up at Silver Lake. It was the last day that the dunes were open until 10pm which it was dark at 8:30.SUPER fun.https://i.imgur.com/Z79R4cI.mp4

09-17-2018, 04:45 PM
ohhh! now were talking!!

09-17-2018, 06:52 PM
Power is a disease. A very fun disease. [smilie=non_banana1:

Other than the scuffs it looks really clean. Nice find!

09-17-2018, 06:55 PM
Wait a minute, I know why you got the deal - The cylinders are on upside down.

09-17-2018, 07:12 PM
Wait a minute, I know why you got the deal - The cylinders are on upside down.

I saw that too! It has me scratching my head but it's impossible for it to be on upside down.


fz bullet
09-17-2018, 11:54 PM
Must be Chinese knock off

09-18-2018, 11:00 AM
Must be Chinese knock off

HAA!! Nice one!!


09-19-2018, 10:40 PM
that is awesome, if you want a little more power????? I have a turbo for it :) LOL.

12-03-2018, 01:59 PM
OK, SO I finally got a little garage time to work on the car.I went back and forth with making a 2 seat car with the AR as a basis for the new chassis. I'm just gonna keep it light and fast.So I pulled everything apart and gutted the car. It was a tough thing to do, as the car just ran so well. The size comparison between the Hayabusa and the 750 is crazy. https://i.imgur.com/ztWUqFJ.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/yE0kXvo.jpgTHE PLAN-Cut the chassis highlighted in yellow. I will stretch the chassis 6-8".-Build a new fuel cell for under the seat and going up behind it.-Build new upper and lower arms 3" longer on each side-930 non-plunging CV's for more droop-30" tires all the way around-Center exit exhaust-Different body-work-Radiator relocation-New front suspension, 3" wider per side-Added support for the center spool.-The addition of 2", 4 tube bypass shocks in the rear.-Fresh powdercoat. This thing should be a BEAST next year!! https://i.imgur.com/0mse3TB.jpgJustin

12-03-2018, 02:44 PM
Cool new/old project , ya know its more fun too dune with a Co Pilot anyways

12-03-2018, 03:02 PM
That first cut is always the hardest! I'm really looking forward to seeing this transform!

12-03-2018, 04:36 PM
Can't wait to see this thing in the dunes next year!

12-04-2018, 11:16 AM
Thanks fellas!

Rat, this will still stay a single seat car. Just going to be a longer wheelbase. Ive got plans to build an AR-2.5 very soon. That will be based on the AR chassis, just taller, wider and longer. Basically it's bigger brother with a mid engine Subaru powerplant.
In fact, here is my full scale Cad layout...

12-04-2018, 12:40 PM
Makes sense. I was thinking ,man hes gona have ta butcher the shit auta the AR for a two seat conversion..

12-04-2018, 11:52 PM
Nice! Chalk aided design!
The long front nose looks a little like the Badlands ST2.

12-09-2018, 04:23 PM
yes, chalk aided design!!

now, hide the brooms.

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12-10-2018, 10:42 AM
HAA!! I pulled measurements before my wife parked her dripping wet truck on top of my masterpiece.

12-10-2018, 10:47 AM
So, this realllly hurt to cut this in half...
You can see where i'm going with this now too. Currently, I will be building the center spool adjuster as well as working out to the suspension pivots. Initial layout will be equal length upper and lowers that will be 24" long, and 10" vertical center to center. I laid things out at 40* in droop with 5" of chassis to ground clearance wit 30" tires. This gave me 21" of travel with a 12" shock. I will limit it at 20"


12-11-2018, 11:54 AM
Hey, I had a similar picture of a buggy cut in two pieces, the only differences are mine was two separate pieces being grafted together and yours is a real work of art. Keep up the good work

12-11-2018, 12:05 PM
Thanks Chedderbob!!


12-11-2018, 05:31 PM
I like the new sketch, Its gonna be cool!

spud nut
12-17-2018, 06:58 PM
I love it. I just traded a 04 honda trx450r for a busa buggy. The power is AMAZING!!!! you'll love it.

12-17-2018, 07:18 PM
That's a crazy trade looks like a blast!

12-18-2018, 09:31 AM
I love it. I just traded a 04 honda trx450r for a busa buggy. The power is AMAZING!!!! you'll love it.


12-18-2018, 11:29 PM
I might have missed it, but what is the purpose of stretching the buggy?

12-19-2018, 12:00 AM
He needs room for the bigger motor, and too keep the front end from lifting up as easily.

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spud nut
12-19-2018, 01:34 PM
Absolutely agree about the front end coming up. My busa buggy on pavement lifts the front each time I shift though the first 4 gears

12-19-2018, 08:42 PM
I might have missed it, but what is the purpose of stretching the buggy?

Good question,
The Busa will fit, however it is VERY tight. I want to allow for a larger radiator, wider stance with bypass shocks. The longer wheelbase will make the car ride even smoother.

12-28-2018, 01:35 PM
Well,I have made a fair bit of progress on the AR-51. I took the current design that worked very well and just kinda made it bigger. I drew up a full scale drawing to make sure things were going to work the way I planned. My center section emulates what Rick had initially designed, however with the usage of the non plunging axles, I will have no camber gain unless I adjust the outer heim joints to have 1 or 2 degrees of negative camber. I will be limiting the suspension to 38* at full droop witch will allow me to get just shy of 20" with a 12" shock. I even drew a full scale side view to locate the new engine as well. As of now, I will be running a 70 tooth sprocket in the rear and a 14 tooth up front.So below is my suspension. You may have to squint to see everything, but on the right side of the poster board are then inner pivots and the axle pivot. This shows the full range of travel. The arms will be 24" long. https://i.imgur.com/60Kr136.jpgIn this pic you can see the back of the car. I "modeled" in the engine sprocket to show the potential interference with the bulkhead. Seems to be working on paper. LOLhttps://i.imgur.com/GmLRw5g.jpgThe below pic is of the front bulkhead plate. There is clearances for the chain. The rear bulkhead plate has the opening for the adjuster fork that I will be re using.https://i.imgur.com/KPY1BNN.jpg?1I drew everything up on the water jet yesterday too.https://i.imgur.com/hq7k32M.jpgThese plates will capture the inside of the control arm pivot points.https://i.imgur.com/ws4XPMP.jpg

12-28-2018, 04:34 PM

01-02-2019, 11:41 AM
Well, I done messed up....
So, my vertical spread on my inner center section is 10". In theory this is fine, however when the center of your axle is 3.5" above the bottom pivot, the upright will not fit into the 14" wheel.... or a 15" wheel...... I found this minor detail after the center section is all tacked together.
Well shit. I will have the vertical spread at 8" now. I KNOW this will work as I drew up some templates and mocked things up.
I should have looked at this a long time ago.

I have the new drawings made up as well as motor mounts now. One step back, but now I can go 3 steps ahead of that.....after I get back from Philly.

Here is a large piece of scrap. HAA I can re use the tubes though. This Sunday I should have the new center tacked up with the motor mounts in place. The new design will be a little better in the long run too.

01-03-2019, 01:26 AM
But it makes me do a little happy dance knowing I’m not the only one that does these sorts of things.

01-04-2019, 03:25 AM
It sucks having to redo something like this. It's usually my luck that I have fully welded it because that part was 'done' so no need to check anything else.

01-07-2019, 10:02 AM
Well after my bottom lip stopped shaking and I wiped my tears away(insert image of a 4 yr old that lost a toy), I got some stuff done.

I re drew my inner bulkhead section, re drew my inner capture plates, drew my rear uprights and also cut said parts. I ended up with an 8" vertical spread between my arms. My upright clears the inside of my wheels and we are back on track!

Yesterday I got it all tacked up as well as actually attached to the chassis! Next up is to build the new mid rail section for the back. This will take me cutting more of the original chassis. Where the "B" pillar attaches to the mid rail is where that will get cut and a new section that is longer and wider will meet the new vertical tubes on the bulkhead. While the cradle was sitting there, I aligned it to the new engine and made the lower tabs for that. This is very important as these 2 mounts center and square the engine to the chassis. Once I get some more tube work in place, the engine will go back in to establish the upper rear mounts as well as the top front mounts. PROGRESS!
If you close one eye and squint really hard, you can kinda see how much longer the new chassis section is compared to the original. You can also see the clamped on piece of new 1.5" square as that is how far that new section will be coming back.

01-07-2019, 01:06 PM
Delicate surgery. Nice!

02-13-2019, 09:33 AM
Not much time as of lately spent on the car. Business travels have kept me pretty busy. BUT, I have the back of the car all tacked together! I kinda like how it turned out. It really isn't too structurally important, so I did a miter cut at the bottom. Still some more bracing to add, but i'm getting there. A heavy 1/16" gap at the bottom, i will take that. I just ordered my 1.5" and 2.6" stainless exhaust parts, some cool 1.5" to 3" stainless steel cones that a company out of Michigan makes for my exhaust sizing transitions, a Magnaflow muffler, v band clamps, a Walbro external fuel pump, Aeromotive FPR, a 22"x 19" radiator, aluminum shroud and a Spal 16" fan. I have also machined all of my delrin bushings, crush sleeves and have everything cut and bent for my lower rear arms. Next week I am sending some tubing off to Griffen Fabworks to get rolled for my roll cage. Iv'e gotta get moving!!

02-13-2019, 10:53 AM
Looking good! Only about 50 days left till the silver lake opens

02-13-2019, 10:41 PM
Nice progress. Those two curved tubes were fun - nice blend work.

04-08-2019, 10:31 AM
Definitely behind on the build and updates on here.

Well, my engine is 50% mounted, my exhaust is done, arms are tacked together and fit up, cage is being rolled today! I will have to notch my chassis as the lower arms in full droop are hitting. The lower arms will be getting shock tabs this week as well. She is getting heavy. LOL By the end of the week, I should have the chassis complete.

04-08-2019, 11:05 AM
The traveler returns home to his abandoned and lonely mistress!!

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04-10-2019, 09:54 AM
I had a date with my mistress yesterday and laid some pipe....
CAGE! Finally I took a day off in the middle of the week to where there was no distractions to deal with. It was 60*, no kids, no wife, just me and the garage.
I had my buddy at Griffen Fabworks roll my cage hoop. I gave them extra material on each end to work with and man, i'm glad I did. My initial thought was to have the back tube land in between the upper coilover mount and the upper bypass mount but when I set the tube up in place, I really liked how it looked all the way to the back of the car. So 8 hours later I had this!
I will be adding 2 bars that will go from the A-pilar to the nose of the car. They will have a 40* or so bend close to the nose. That is this weekends plan, as well as the last motor mounts.


04-10-2019, 04:43 PM
Oh yeah!
That looks killer.
8 hrs to fit a few tubes? Yup! Nobody gets just how long this stuff actually takes.

04-15-2019, 11:04 AM
Again, more garage time.
I got some more steel for the front of the car. Proportionately it needed some more to it. I think it turned out looking pretty cool. The new dash bar is the same height as the sheet metal kicker I had on my old hood piece so my visibility will be the same, actually better as my seat is up an inch and a half.

I got some really light 3/4"-ish tubing that i bent up so that the aluminum side panels had somewhere to bolt to. Seems I will be getting in and out of the car, I would probably bend the panels if there was nothing there.

I started to layout the sheet metal panels in poster board. So far, I am liking what i'm seeing. I made a firewall of sorts on the bulkhead behind the engine. I will line it with some sort of heat resistant material. Probably some of that Boom Mat, as that worked really good on my last set up. The fuel cell will be in that open area behind the engine. I think I calculated it to be around 7 gallons.


04-16-2019, 02:50 AM
Ffin show off!!

... Lol

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05-28-2019, 06:05 PM
Man, between work, work travels and the honey do list I actually found some time to get things going again...

New paddles!
I picked up a set of 30", 16 paddle Pro Armor paddles. I'm eventually going to have a local guy shave them down. He has seen 10# per tire reduction! I also painted my bead lock rings.

I managed to get 75% of the car welded out. Enough to get it off the table. I kinda wish it was back on there to fit the sheet metal easier...LOL In reality, I wanted to see it on the ground.

70 tooth sprocket!

I made a bunch of plate work for the shock and the bypass mounts on the lower rear arms. There are a couple tubes to add to the lower arm before final welding. Some corner gussets for the uppers too, I think.

I used the original fixture plate for the front, but shifted the pivot tube mounting locations out 3" to widen the front. I will keep the shock angle and mounting points the same. I will hopefully be able to cycle the front tonight to get an idea on travel numbers and final shock mounting locations. I really liked how well the front did, so I want to keep as much of the geometry the same as the old set up.

I spent about 9-10 hours on Sunday making aluminum panels, bead rolling and welding tabs for said body work in place. So far, I am really liking how its turning out.

I spent some of the time on Sunday making more body panel templates. Aluminum shows up on Thursday so I can cut the rest of the body panels out! She is getting close to powdercoating. I will have a double firewall between my header and the seat. I will be mounting my fuel pump and 2 fuel filters down low behind the seat, as well as the computer. Dune Buggy Douggy is making me new front hubs to work with my 4 on 156 wheels. Rear bypasses are on order too. King 3 tube, 14".

05-28-2019, 08:50 PM
Lookin good!

06-04-2019, 02:08 PM
That is looking real nice. The panels look good bead rolled. That is one of my favorite tools.

06-05-2019, 11:39 PM
Like I said on FB, sexy!

08-21-2019, 12:33 AM
Has it made it to the sand, yet?

08-21-2019, 02:45 PM
I can't wait to see it with real skin! Although naked looks good too... [smilie=strokin.gif]

09-08-2019, 02:23 AM
I didn't realize you had Griffen Fab Works helping you, I follow them on IG and they do great work!!

10-23-2019, 07:36 PM
I didn't realize you had Griffen Fab Works helping you, I follow them on IG and they do great work!!

HAA, yep, Neal is a good friend of mine. I got my shocks, seats, harnesses, CV's and some other odds and ends from him.


10-23-2019, 07:46 PM
So, it's been a while since my last update. I have had it in the sand 2 times thus far. WOW. The grunt that the Busa has is unreal. The suspension worked even BETTER than I was expecting!! I think the added 12" of wheelbase was a part in the ride quality as well.

The only issue I had was that the small bolt that holds the 930 flange to the spool splines backed off. That in turn loosened my sprocket up to the point my chain fell off. We did a little re assembly in the dunes and got it back to the trailer.
I got home and pulled it apart to use some red loc tite on it but I actually bent my allen wrench trying to loosen that bolt. Screw it, back to the dunes. LOL
I ran it for maybe an hour and that little bolt backed out again thus throwing the chain again. Well, I got it back together and limped it back to the trailer. Now this week I will surely get that locked in for another test rip.

The way I can blip the throttle on a small drop off and keep the front end up (kinda like how you would ride off a small drop off on a dirt bike) is really fun. On rollers, I can wheelie but that scares the crap out of me as I don't have rear brakes as of yet. HAAA

I also met up with a friend who has an AR51 as well. It is way cool to see the 2 cars next to each other for comparison. Pretty dang stoked how it has turned out so far!

Here is a screen shot of a wheelie too.

And some videos too....


10-23-2019, 11:32 PM
That's crazy, how does it feel compared to the 750?

10-24-2019, 10:10 AM
That's crazy, how does it feel compared to the 750?

Like getting out of a 4 cylinder Mustang and getting into a 5.0 v-8. LOL

03-06-2020, 07:12 AM
A couple weeks out for paint!
I have my rear brakes all set to go in this weekend too.