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badlandbuggy
05-19-2011, 09:55 PM
May 19, 2011: We've starting posting pics of our MEGALODON buggy project during fabrication. Here's a few photos, I could only upload 3 photos at a time here, so I've uploaded dozens more photos on our Facebook page to check out (Badland Buggy - Automotive - Leduc, Alberta | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/badlandbuggy)). If you like it, don't forget to "Like Us" on Facebook.

So far we've received the rear brakes, rear wheel hubs, drive axles, CV joints, steering components & laser cut steel plates for the front suspension, throttle pedal, some chassis fab & most of the steering system. We're expecting delivery of the Jeffco reverse gearbox tomorrow.

Our fabrication plan is to fabricate the front suspension as a complete assembly, build the rear suspension/drive system as a full assembly, fabricate the MEGALODON chassis frame then bolt the three systems together. Then we will install the steering system & seat with racing harness. We've checked out a few engines already yet we've haven't purchased one just yet as we're waiting for the reverse gearbox to arrive first. I'm leaning towards the 1300cc Hayabusa mainly because it has oodles of power. I'm familiar with installing the Honda CBR1000RR, so that's a forerunner too.

After we receive the reverse gear box this week & we have confirmed that the series of laser cut plates that we've designed for the modular rear drive system are good to issue for fabrication, then we will order the laser cut steel, which typically takes 1-2 weeks.

We haven't decided on final tire sizes & types just yet either. Looking at running & testing this vehicle mainly in dunes, desert & sand in the southern US, thus, sand paddles for the rear may be in order, rather than the UTV tires we show in our concepts & our youtube video. There's only a few sand dunes here in Alberta, that's why we typically run with ATV or UTV tires around here.

I'll post more photos both to this thread on minibuggy.net & mainly to our Facebook page, simply because it's faster & easier at our end. Thanks for checking this out & I look forward to your ongoing comments.

Cheers,

Bruce
badlandbuggy.com

KrunchWorkz
05-19-2011, 10:48 PM
Since your in Alberta, have you thought of testing at St. Anthony's in Idaho? Nice large dune complex, hailed as the Glamis of the north west.

KrunchWorkz
05-19-2011, 10:54 PM
So another point I noticed, that may help out some and reduce cost a few bucks. You are using suspension bushings from Energy suspension. What bolt size are those? They look like 3/4, but I may be wrong.

Another method would be to purchase SACO bushings Products (http://www.sacoperformance.com/proddetail.php?prod=94-3022BO)

Then make your own sleave out of 1 1/8 .188 wall DOM. This will give you the 3/4 bolt and the SACO bushings are cheap. They even do wholesale/jobber rate i believe so you can most likely get them for less than the $3.00 each.

Glock n Ballz
05-20-2011, 05:11 AM
Bruce,
It costs more money, but I feel you would be remiss in your duties as a designer if you did not choose the Busa powerplant. This engine probably has the most power out there ( ZX-14 could be a contender too...

The Busa will really put you design to the test and if it can handle the Busa it can handle
anything.

Others might agree.

badlandbuggy
05-20-2011, 07:07 AM
Since your in Alberta, have you thought of testing at St. Anthony's in Idaho? Nice large dune complex, hailed as the Glamis of the north west.

Been to St. Anthony, Idaho in 2008, it's a cool place! My friend has a place in Arizona, so we're thinking of trailering the MEGALODON down that way to do some testing this fall.

badlandbuggy
05-20-2011, 07:14 AM
So another point I noticed, that may help out some and reduce cost a few bucks. You are using suspension bushings from Energy suspension. What bolt size are those? They look like 3/4, but I may be wrong.

Another method would be to purchase SACO bushings Products (http://www.sacoperformance.com/proddetail.php?prod=94-3022BO)

Then make your own sleave out of 1 1/8 .188 wall DOM. This will give you the 3/4 bolt and the SACO bushings are cheap. They even do wholesale/jobber rate i believe so you can most likely get them for less than the $3.00 each.

The Energy Suspension Bushings we're using all accept 1/2" bolts with the metal sleeve inside. We got them shipped to Canada from the US, and with shipping & duty they worked out to around $8-10 each Canadian. I'll check out the SACO bushings too. Thanks!

badlandbuggy
05-20-2011, 07:19 AM
Bruce,
It costs more money, but I feel you would be remiss in your duties as a designer if you did not choose the Busa powerplant. This engine probably has the most power out there ( ZX-14 could be a contender too...

The Busa will really put you design to the test and if it can handle the Busa it can handle
anything.

Others might agree.

'Busa would be the way to go, I agree. We're thinking about a turbo kit too. We've got a local motorcycle recycler keeping their eyes out for a few. Motorcycle season has just started back up here in Alberta (long winter, lol), thus, it won't be long before we start seeing more motorcycles ending up at the recyclers!

Glock n Ballz
05-20-2011, 08:26 AM
'Busa would be the way to go, I agree. We're thinking about a turbo kit too. We've got a local motorcycle recycler keeping their eyes out for a few. Motorcycle season has just started back up here in Alberta (long winter, lol), thus, it won't be long before we start seeing more motorcycles ending up at the recyclers!

Cool deal Bruce,

I live 2 miles from one of the biggest motorcycle recyclers in Texas.

www.mrmotorcycledfw.com/ (http://www.mrmotorcycledfw.com/)

If you like I can ask Mike (the owner) if he has any Busa Powerplants...

DO you have a year preference?

You can PM me what you are looking to spend on an engine.

I am going by there again this afternoon to get the correct rectifier for my TL1KR..

Chikin
05-20-2011, 10:22 AM
Been to St. Anthony, Idaho in 2008, it's a cool place! My friend has a place in Arizona, so we're thinking of trailering the MEGALODON down that way to do some testing this fall.


Keep us posted on that, I live in Arizona and would like to see it.

badlandbuggy
05-20-2011, 07:54 PM
Jeffco reverse gearbox arrived today. Amazing quality, excellent machining, I'm impressed. I work with machining shops everyday (and my father, R.I.P., was a machinist for 37 years, so I've been around it all my life) Jeffco's quality ranks up there with some of the best machining shops i've been around over the past 40 years. Thanks Shawn at Jeffco! Well done.

Did a quick mechanical assembly with 930 CV's, axles and the wheel hubs, just to test fit the driveline. Everything fits like a glove. That's cool. Got to check the actual gearbox dim's against the mechanical design we did a few weeks back, then it's time to order laser cut steel for the Modular Rear Drive System next week.

Photos to come this weekend showing the major assembled driveline components. Already posted some more new photos to Twitter and Facebook (from phone) if you want to check them out.

Tappet Head
05-21-2011, 07:09 AM
I see you have the four pot brakes on face book, are they the 120-5081's? you planning on using those on the rear? as your front knuckles appear to be the original dimensions to fit the 4060 callipers. I was looking at fitting the 5081's to the front of my ST4 and have redrawn the calliper mount to suite before laser cutting. I can email the DXF across to you if like, not dimensioned though. Oh, and in metric!!

badlandbuggy
05-24-2011, 07:29 AM
Front brakes for MEGALODON use Wilwood 120-4060 calipers (same as ST4), rear brakes are the 120-5081's using different rotors & pads. You can use the 5081's on the front for an ST4, & yes, would require a different caliper mount to make it work as the mounting dimensions are different.

badlandbuggy
05-24-2011, 07:36 AM
Photo of Project: MEGALODON's Jeffco Reverse Gear Box added to our live Twitter feed (www.twitter.com/badlandbuggy (http://www.twitter.com/badlandbuggy)). Follow us on Twitter for more photos this week.

Glock n Ballz
05-24-2011, 07:51 AM
Twitter. Boo.

Bullnerd
05-24-2011, 09:13 AM
Twitter. Boo.

DING..DING..DING! We have a winner!

Twitter,fagbook...no thanks!Post here,link here,or forget it!

badlandbuggy
05-24-2011, 03:29 PM
It's just so easy to take a quick photo with a smart phone & instantly post to Twitter in seconds. Would be cool if we could post a photo from a smart phone directly to minibuggy.net. Any ideas on how to do this anyone? If it's easy & quick, I'm game.

Binze
05-25-2011, 02:57 AM
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badlandbuggy
05-25-2011, 07:12 AM
Thanks Binze. Is there a quick way to post photos from a smart phone direct to a thread in minibuggy.net?

Glock n Ballz
05-25-2011, 08:40 AM
Bruce,
I can appreciate your position. I am the laziest person on earth.

When I post pix on MBN I upload them to Photobucket first. Then I have to copy each code and paste into MBN text window one at a time. It blows, but I got fans I dont wanna let down.

Oh and another thought...Bruce, your target audience isn't on Twitter or Facebook, it's here on MBN. There are a lot of members on MBN and it usually the same ones posting, but realize that there are hundreds of MBN members who dont post and are not building a buggy at the moment...so these are the guys you wanna go after.

Keep Tweeting and keep Facebooking! These are excellent networking platforms. And I think you have noticed that I help you out on Facebook when I can by posting pix and trying to stir peoples interest. Just don't forget where home is. It's here on MBN 'B'!!

Of course all that is just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Binze
05-25-2011, 08:51 AM
Thanks Binze. Is there a quick way to post photos from a smart phone direct to a thread in minibuggy.net?
Nope :)

daaboots
05-25-2011, 10:25 AM
Photo of Project: MEGALODON's Jeffco Reverse Gear Box added to our live Twitter feed (www.twitter.com/badlandbuggy (http://www.twitter.com/badlandbuggy)). Follow us on Twitter for more photos this week.

Facebook and Twitter are banned at work... minibuggy.net isn't :cool:

badlandbuggy
05-25-2011, 01:00 PM
Got the laser cut plates for the new Modular Rear Drive System finalized & checked mechanically with the new Jeffco Reverse Gear Box & all parts out for quote today. We're going to prototype the rear a-arms using mild steel rectangular tubing with DOM tube for the pivots, but we've also got a cool all aluminum version of rear a-arms designed for future production options. Right now, the DOM tube for the pivot points of the steel version of the a-arms is at the machining shop.

We're also ready to order raw materials for the chassis's this week. The chassis is the relatively quick & cheap part to build. We may start bending tubes as early as next week.

Ordered the rod ends, misalignment bushings, tube adapters, spare pivot bushings & new shoulder bolts for all the suspension pivot points earlier today. Lots of things left to purchase yet but we're sticking with the original plan: build front suspension/steering system, build rear drive/suspension system, build chassis's, then everything else.

Still haven't located the powerplant yet. We're hoping to find a local late model 'Busa soon so we can design laser cut plates for mounting the engine. If it works out good, we're considering offering engine mounting kits for Hayabusa's.

badlandbuggy
05-28-2011, 04:46 PM
We originally intended to go with Fox 2.0 Series Air Shocks (amazing air shocks) for the MEGALODON project. We're now steering towards to upgrading further to long travel Coil Over Shocks with tuned springs at calculated spring rates and Piggyback reservoirs. More to come soon.

badlandbuggy
05-31-2011, 11:01 AM
Laser cut plates for the rear drive system are ordered, will arrive in about a week. More mechanical parts are scheduled to be delivered this week. Chassis & suspension materials haven't arrived yet. Pivot tubes for the suspension a-arms are finishing up at the machine shop today.

badlandbuggy
06-03-2011, 01:54 PM
Balance of suspension pivot bushings arrived yesterday, just in time to beat the Canadian Postal Strike that started last night at 11:59pm. Hope this postal strike doesn't last long, we're waiting on more parts to arrive!

Here's the link to the suspension pivot bushings we're using for MEGALODON:
Energy Suspension 9.9105 Flange - Link Type Bushing (http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=9.9105)

We're using the "black" ones. We're using the same brand of bushings at the wheel hubs, just a different size.

Laser cut plates for the rear drive/suspension haven't been received yet. Leaning back towards Fox 2.0 Series Air Shocks again now. They seem to fit better with the overall design of MEGALODON, plus, they are lighter & half the cost of coil overs. Not sure which way we'll go with the shocks yet.

No luck on sourcing a Hayabusa yet either. Checked out a few running bikes locally but nothing worth laying down cash for.

badlandbuggy
06-09-2011, 01:10 PM
Update on Project: MEGALODON.

Machined parts for the suspension pivots on the a-arms have been received & checked with new suspension bushings, fits great! We're ready to build the a-arms now. Also now have all the shoulder bolts for the suspension pivots. Received a few more laser cut plates. Received misalignment bushings & tube adapters from chassisshop.com. High quality, as always. Rod ends should show up this week too.

Replaced all the 12 pt bolts for the CV's & CV flanges with Socket Head Cap Screws, much easier to work with. Bolted together all the mechanical parts for the new modular rear drive system to check for fitment. This drive system is beefy! Took a quick measurement, hub to hub distance on the bench is approx 66". I guesstimate it weighs about 160 lbs so far, will likely top 200 lbs when done. Not bad considering there's a 100 lb reverse gear box with differential included in there.

We've been putting off the chassis build until all the mechanical parts came in, just in case we had to make any final changes. There's still a few mechanical parts remaining to purchase including the front brakes, wheel hubs & shocks but we've built these before & know they work great. We're planning on building the MEGALODON chassis next week now. We're toying with the ideal of also prototyping an all aluminum chassis to increase the power to weight ratio of the finished vehicle. Plus, an all aluminum TIG welded chassis would just be cool.

Haven't decided on the seat package yet. Liking the Corbeau Forza, Sparco, Mastercraft, hmm...

More build photos coming very soon.

Tom
06-09-2011, 04:23 PM
DUDE, your in my city!! :D nice build by the way!

badlandbuggy
06-09-2011, 04:53 PM
Tom, thanks for the PM. Replied back to you. We'll have to get together. E-mail me at info@badlandbuggy.com

Tom
06-09-2011, 07:50 PM
Tom, thanks for the PM. Replied back to you. We'll have to get together. E-mail me at info@badlandbuggy.com

WOW! this build could not be any more professional. The build looks even better in person! Thanks for the tour around your shop, It was nice to meet you and your family. Hope to see you in the not to distant future :p

badlandbuggy
06-09-2011, 08:57 PM
Tom, great to meet you today! Who knew we were right around the corner from each other! Damn, it's a small world. This is what I love about MBN, it connects buggy builders with other buggy builders.

And thanks for coming to check out our Project: MEGALODON. What a cool guy Tom is. Can't wait to see your buggy next week. Call me when it's ready, I want to check it out in person. You'll have to take MEGALODON for a test drive when she's ready, sound cool?

Tom
06-09-2011, 10:10 PM
yes i couldn't agree more, this forum is an excellent resource to have!

It would be a pleasure to have you come around and take a look, even a test drive if i can get some land free from some of my farm friends :cool:. And it would absolute privilege to take your buggy for a rip [smilie=non_banana2: .

You ever been to whiskey hill yet? im sure you will like it for your jeep and even a little buggy fun on the back straight.

Anyway i will keep an eye out for the hayabusa motor, when do you think it will be drivable?;)

badlandbuggy
06-10-2011, 09:16 PM
Rod ends arrived today!

badlandbuggy
06-15-2011, 12:18 PM
Project: MEGALODON YouTube video passed 1000 views!

There's been a delay in getting our final laser cut parts for the rear drive system. We're expecting them Friday, June 17th now. Will post new pics after lasered parts arrives.

badlandbuggy
06-21-2011, 02:04 PM
Project: MEGALODON update. New photos added to our Facebook page.
Badland Buggy - Automotive - Leduc, AB | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/Badlandbuggy)

This includes the balance of the laser cut plates & formed parts we need to complete the new modular front/rear drive & suspension systems. Fabricating all a-arms next...

http://www.facebook.com/Badlandbuggy#!/photo.php?fbid=209250022453624&set=a.201084169936876.56024.189846177727342&type=1&theater
http://www.facebook.com/Badlandbuggy#!/photo.php?fbid=209250039120289&set=a.201084169936876.56024.189846177727342&type=1&theater
http://www.facebook.com/Badlandbuggy#!/photo.php?fbid=209250045786955&set=a.201084169936876.56024.189846177727342&type=1&theater
http://www.facebook.com/Badlandbuggy#!/photo.php?fbid=209250055786954&set=a.201084169936876.56024.189846177727342&type=1&theater
http://www.facebook.com/Badlandbuggy#!/photo.php?fbid=209250072453619&set=a.201084169936876.56024.189846177727342&type=1&theater
Hmm... I see my URL link to the photos didn't work. Anyone know how to add/link these new photos from Facebook to this thread?

badlandbuggy
06-23-2011, 08:17 AM
These are the direct links to new photos of Project: MEGALODON
Badland Buggy - Automotive - Leduc, AB | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/Badlandbuggy#!/photo.php?fbid=209250022453624&set=a.201084169936876.56024.189846177727342&type=1&theater)
http://www.facebook.com/Badlandbuggy#!/photo.php?fbid=209250039120289&set=a.201084169936876.56024.189846177727342&type=1&theater
http://www.facebook.com/Badlandbuggy#!/photo.php?fbid=209250045786955&set=a.201084169936876.56024.189846177727342&type=1&theater
http://www.facebook.com/Badlandbuggy#!/photo.php?fbid=209250055786954&set=a.201084169936876.56024.189846177727342&type=1&theater
http://www.facebook.com/Badlandbuggy#!/photo.php?fbid=209250072453619&set=a.201084169936876.56024.189846177727342&type=1&theater

nutnbolt2002
06-23-2011, 08:47 AM
Beautiful job Bruce, is there any movement to the box to adjust for chain slack?

badlandbuggy
06-23-2011, 11:03 AM
Thanks, it's slowly coming together, never fast enough though, lol.

Yes, there's a turnbuckle that mounts to one of the upper tabs on the Jeffco reverse gearbox & connects to the gearbox mount. When you turn the turnbuckle, it adds chain tension. The gearbox mount is designed so the Jeffco gearbox pivots slightly when taking up chain tension.

On another note, we finally decided on chassis materials. We want to fabricate the strongest chassis possible, thus, for the bent tubular sections, we're using Chromoly DOM 1.50" od x 0.095" wall. Decided to go with Chromoly DOM for this chassis because it has a higher yield strength than mild steel (ERW, HSS) & it's dimensionally more accurate than mild steel tubulars. It's more expensive, but for the cost, it's worth it. Many racing rules also call for a minimum of 1.50" od x 0.095" wall tubing, so we want to meet these specifications as well. The chromoly DOM materials should arrive within a few days then the chassis fab begins, hopefully next week. Ordered another new tube bender this week too.

daaboots
06-27-2011, 06:38 AM
Here you go Bruce.

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/264032_209250022453624_189846177727342_659620_8022 530_n.jpg

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Bullnerd
06-27-2011, 10:21 AM
Damn that looks like thick stuff!Is the megalondon a pro truck?

How much will it weigh roughly?

badlandbuggy
06-27-2011, 03:26 PM
Daaboots, thanks for posting those pics! Someday I'll figure out how to post pics properly to MBN, lol

Most of the formed and laser cut material is 3/16" mild steel plate. Target weight is under 1000lbs with engine.

bluezone
06-28-2011, 11:40 PM
Just watched the video on youtbe for this and all i can say is. INSANE. I want 1. [smilie=ecstatic.gi:

Glock n Ballz
06-29-2011, 12:08 PM
Hey Bruce,

When you get the Megladon finished, you should raffle it off. I would pay $100 bucks for a raffle ticket.

What say you?

dirtreaper
06-29-2011, 03:03 PM
Looking fantastic Bruce!!!! Im in for another 100..lol

Glock n Ballz
06-29-2011, 05:15 PM
I bet if he sold 200 tickets he'd make money on the deal..

badlandbuggy
06-30-2011, 07:14 AM
Who knows, maybe.... Update: all the raw chassis materials arrived this week including the Chromoly DOM 1.50" od x 0.095" wall. Newest bender to arrive this coming Tuesday.

badlandbuggy
07-08-2011, 02:47 PM
Newest tube bender arrived this week. The old Pro-Tools model 105 bender was starting to get worn out so it was time to order a new one. Wes, the head fabricator/welder, is away on a well needed vacation in the USA this week. More progress after Wes returns.

badlandbuggy
07-11-2011, 02:59 PM
Gave the newest tube bender a workout this past weekend. Set it up as the mechanical bender & ran through a number of chassis tubes for Project MEGALODON. Figured I'd set up the bender as the "mechanical" version as this is likely how many home builders will actually do at home. I've always used the hydraulic version, but I must say, the mechanical version works very slick & doesn't take all that long when compared to the hydraulic version.

FYI, for the MEGALODON prototype, we're using a Pro-Tools Model #105 mechanical tube bender (www.pro-tools.com (http://www.pro-tools.com)) with a 240 degree bending die for 1.50" o.d. tubing with a 5" centerline radius. Complete bender set-up costs around $650-$700 including bender, extension handle, degree ring, stand & die.

I'll post the pics of the tubes for MEGALODON chassis when they are all completed. Cutting & fitting the square tubes for the chassis base frame in the next few days.

bluezone
07-11-2011, 06:49 PM
Photos please. [smilie=ecstatic.gi:

badlandbuggy
07-25-2011, 08:09 AM
Think I've got the photobucket thing figured out. Here's a few pics of the MEGALODON chassis build in progress. We're adding all the structural cross bracing this week.
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00039-20110722-1331.jpg


http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00043-20110724-1948.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00042-20110724-1729.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00040-20110724-1324.jpg

badlandbuggy
07-26-2011, 07:51 AM
The ol' tube notcher we had finally gave out. Was using the HSN-500 Tube Notcher from Pro-Tools for the past few years. It's a solid unit & I'd recommend it, but after replacing the bearings twice now & the shaft once, it's time to retire the old girl & try something new. So we just picked up the JD2 Notchmaster from Van Sant (JD2 Notchmaster Tube Notcher at Van Sant Enterprises' Trick-Tools.com (http://www.vansantent.com/tube_coping_machines/Notchmaster.htm)) along with the stand, some carbide tooth bi-metal hole saws, some ATF fluid & a new squirt can to keep the heat down. We'll see how this new Tube Notcher holds up over time.

daaboots
07-27-2011, 07:51 AM
Lookin good. Glad to see you figured out how to post pics :p

How do you like the new tube bender?

badlandbuggy
07-28-2011, 09:43 AM
Yeah, finally signed up for Photobucket. Quite easy to use & post pics with it.

Had the same Pro-Tools Model 105 bender before, but it was getting tired & worn out so we sold it to another fab shop who is going to refurb it. Pro-Tools had the same bender on sale recently so I ordered a new one & set it up as the mechanical version (used hydraulic version previously). I must say, bending 1.50" od x 0.095" wall DOM by hand is very easy with this bender. I recommend it. Easy to get consistent, quality bends every time. We'll order up the hydraulic kit for it later this fall.

SCEADU
07-28-2011, 09:51 AM
Turn it on it's side and use a digital level and you will like it even more. I have the Woodward version of that bender and I can use my butt to do some of the work. I was bending 1.5 x .120 wall effortlessly.

badlandbuggy
07-28-2011, 02:52 PM
Lol, I've actually thought about turning it vertical. Probender.com makes a nice vertical tube bender conversion for the Pro-Tools dies too. I like that the vertical bender is portable then instead of having it bolted to the floor all the time, just concerned about height needed to do longer tubes vertically rather than horizontally.

SCEADU
07-28-2011, 03:57 PM
Bruce,

Here is what I built for mine


http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/_SCEADU_/P6240202.jpg

KrunchWorkz
08-06-2011, 10:40 AM
SCEADU,

You may run into problems with the orientation of your bender. Your bends bend to the ground. On longer bends that require a large degree of bend, your tube will most likely contact the ground. You should be bending vertical where the bend arcs upwards so you have more clearance.

SCEADU
08-06-2011, 02:31 PM
I am thinking about making it hydraulic eventually. Then I can turn it around so it will bend upward. I don't think I will have any long bends in my rig so it should be fine for now.

badlandbuggy
08-07-2011, 11:18 AM
Project: MEGALODON update: Chassis framing complete. Prototype rear a-arms complete. Seat ordered, steering column steady bearings ordered, front wheel hub bearings ordered, brake/clutch pedal unit ordered, master cylinders ordered, reverse shifter & gear shifter being installed in a few days. No donor bike yet, but we'll be purchasing one real soon as the engine installation & fuel system set-up will be coming up soon. Haven't quite decided on tires & wheels yet.

We've got some pretty cool things in the works for this vehicle & have some amazing companies involved, just a teaser, more to come soon.... I'll post the latest photos here very soon.

ErwinBnl
08-07-2011, 06:18 PM
Bruce,

I can't wait to see pictures of the process! It sounds really good!

Erwin

badlandbuggy
08-08-2011, 04:43 PM
Finalized & ordered shocks for Project: MEGALODON. We are going with piggyback reservoir coil over shocks, 12" shock travel front & 14" shock travel rear. Actual wheel travel is higher. Next up, finalizing the tires & wheels then getting them on order.

lost26
08-08-2011, 07:21 PM
Pics???

badlandbuggy
08-11-2011, 08:04 AM
Here's some of the new parts for Project: MEGALODON

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/SeatCorbeauFX1-29507-SR-XL.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/340-11299-lg.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/260-6765-lg.jpg

The Wilwood Pedal Units & Master Cylinders just arrived yesterday. Very nice unit & super light (5 lbs-ish). Corbeau seat is arriving next week. Shifters & throttle pedal arriving this week too. This will allow us to layout the driver's cockpit & complete a few more tabs & mounts on the MEGALODON chassis frame. (Chassis photos coming soon!)

Glock n Ballz
08-11-2011, 11:47 AM
Those pedals are cherry. I like the Wilwood balance beam for the brake "duals".
That should eliminate the need for a brake proportioning valve.

badlandbuggy
08-11-2011, 12:57 PM
Hey Glock! Thanks for your latest pics of your awesome ST2 yesterday. Your buggy is going to be sick. Can't wait to see it rolling.

Exactly, balance beam proportions how much pressure goes to the front & rear brakes. One of the nicest & lightest pedal units I've ever worked with. And surprisely inexpensive. Check them out on Dune Buggy Sand Rails, etc. from budget builder projects to high dollar extreme machines we have the parts you need. | Sand Parts (http://www.sandparts.com) Anthony is the owner & has been extremely helpful with Project: MEGALODON so far.

Here's the spec's on some of the parts going into Project: MEGALODON:

Wilwood Dual Pedal Unit #340-11299 x 1 unit (1 pedal for hydraulic clutch/1 for hydraulic brakes)
Wilwood 3/4" Master Cylinder #260-6898 x 1 unit (for hydraulic clutch)
Wilwood 7/8" Master Cylinder #260-6899 x 2 units (1 for front/1 for rear brakes)
Aluminum Angled Throttle Pedal (Dune Buggy Sand Rails, etc. from budget builder projects to high dollar extreme machines we have the parts you need. | Sand Parts (http://www.sandparts.com) for details)
Sequential Shifter (Dune Buggy Sand Rails, etc. from budget builder projects to high dollar extreme machines we have the parts you need. | Sand Parts (http://www.sandparts.com)) x 2 units (1 for Jeffco Reverse Gearbox/1 for motorcycle gear shifting)
Corbeau FX1 Pro racing seat, black with red (CORBEAU.COM: Official Site: Seats for Street, Race, Off-Road, and more (http://www.corbeau.com))
Radflo Coil Over Shocks with Piggyback Reservoirs, Dual Rate Coil Springs (Radflo Suspension Technology (http://www.radflo.com))
Custom Billet Aluminum 6061-T6 Rear Suspension A-arms x 4 units (by badlandbuggy.com)
We've ordered misc. bearings, steady bearings, etc.. for the steering column & front wheel hubs too

badlandbuggy
08-12-2011, 07:11 AM
New foot pedals installed

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00050-20110811-2137.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00049-20110811-2137.jpg

Jeffco Reverse Gear Box in place in the new bolt-on Modular Rear Suspension

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00051-20110811-2138.jpg

Glock n Ballz
08-12-2011, 08:36 AM
Pix Already!!
The Whole Chassis!!!

ErwinBnl
08-12-2011, 06:22 PM
Wooow that looks good![smilie=ecstatic.gi:

Can't wait to see more pictures of the entire chassis!

Thanks for the pictures you posted already and good luck with the rest of the build:D


Keep us updated! ;)

Erwin

bluezone
08-13-2011, 08:38 PM
Looking good. :) Need to get one of them bai's bars for my buggy.

One Q? Why you using box and not tube on the A arm's?

badlandbuggy
08-15-2011, 07:11 AM
Thanks!

We're doing some fine tuning on the overall shape of the chassis, I'll post the pics of the overall build after we get the coil-overs installed, which should be within the next week. Rear a-arms shown use rectangular tube 1-1/2" x 3/4" because the shape is strong & light to minimize the amount of unsprung weight on the suspension for performance & handling. Each rear a-arm weighs around 3-4 lbs.

We received the Corbeau seat last Friday, got it installed this weekend. Fabricated & installed the steering column too. Shifters & throttle pedal also arrived Friday. Need to make mounts for these next. Coil-Over Shocks are expected to ship out early this week.

We're going with a sand tire set-up for this project. We've decided on 15x11 sand paddles for the rear & 15x6.75 sand tires for the front. Tires & wheels will be a few weeks.

badlandbuggy
08-17-2011, 11:54 AM
We found a donor bike for Project: MEGALODON!

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00056-20110816-2058.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00055-20110816-2058.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00054-20110816-2058.jpg

Binze
08-17-2011, 01:35 PM
That's best looking donor I ever seen! :D

badlandbuggy
08-17-2011, 02:33 PM
Sweet bike! 2006 Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa Limited Edition, Pearl, dual Yoshi pipes, 15,000 km's, never dropped, raced or ever driven in the rain. I think we struck gold with this one. Here's the general spec's I found online about it:

2006 Hayabusa 1300:
Engine: 1299cc, 4-stroke, four-cylinder, liquid-cooled, DOHC, 16-valve, TSCC
Bore Stroke: 81.0 x 63.0mm
Compression Ratio: 11.0:1
Fuel System: Keihin/Denso Fuel Injection
Lubrication: Wet sump
Ignition: Digital/Transistorized
Transmission: 6-speed, constant mesh
Final Drive: #530 chain
Overall Length: 2140mm (84.3 in.)
Overall Width: 740mm (29.1 in.)
Overall Height: 1155mm (45.5 in.)
Seat Height: 805mm (31.7 in.)
Ground Clearance: 120mm (4.7 in.)
Wheelbase: 1485mm (58.5 in.)
Dry Weight: 217kg (478 lbs.) 218kg (480 lbs.) CA. model
Suspension Front: Inverted telescopic, coil spring, fully adjustable spring preload, 14-way adjustable rebound damping and 13-way adjustable compression damping
Suspension Rear: Link-type, gas/oil damped, fully adjustable spring preload, 22-way adjustable compression & rebound damping
Brakes Front: Dual hydraulic disc
Brakes Rear: Single hydraulic disc
Tires Front: 120/70-ZR-17
Tires Rear: 190/50-ZR-17
Fuel Tank Capacity: 21 liter (5.5 gal.) 19.0 liter (5.0 gal.) CA. model
Color: Black/Gray, Black/Red, Gray/Blue

Anyone know what horsepower this should have? I'm guessing 180hp-ish?

Gene
08-17-2011, 02:37 PM
Maybe 165 at the wheel. Typically range anywhere from 145 to 165 and depends on factors like tuner, dyno and variability of production.

My 1397 puts down 179 on the ground through a mini diff. The measurement was on an eddy current dyno. Estimated 205 before parasitic loss.

If the 'busa makes 180 it is at the crank.

Glock n Ballz
08-17-2011, 04:47 PM
Denny Crane!

badlandbuggy
08-22-2011, 07:18 AM
Got the '06 Hayabusa engine pulled this past weekend & set into the MEGALODON frame. That's a big engine. Got some tweaking to do to make it all fit. Coil Over's should arrive today.

lost26
08-22-2011, 11:37 AM
Um ya, pics?:)

badlandbuggy
08-23-2011, 07:00 AM
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00069-20110822-1845.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00062-20110822-1841.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00059-20110822-1840.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00071-20110822-1854.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00063-20110822-1842.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00065-20110822-1843.jpg

sandparts.com
08-23-2011, 10:00 PM
Sand Rail Tires front and Rear for Badland Buggy Prototype Megalodon www.sandparts.com - YouTube (http://youtu.be/uhwu4cGkZLA)

Wheels and Tires should ship in a day or two.

www.sandparts.com (http://www.sandparts.com)

badlandbuggy
08-24-2011, 07:03 AM
Wicked sand tires & wheels from sandparts.com. Awesome people, awesome products, awesome service.

Curt
08-24-2011, 02:18 PM
I know if you have to ask you can't aford it but here goes what kind of price range is the jeffco Rev gearbox and is it also a diff?

badlandbuggy
08-24-2011, 03:06 PM
The Jeffco unit is $3950 USD which has forward & reverse with a differential & 930 CV flanges. 3.25:1 reduction. ::||www.JEFFcoPerformance.com::|| (http://www.jeffcoperformance.com)

We've designed our Modular Rear Drive System to either accept the Jeffco unit or as a live shaft (without reverse) which you can bolt a sprocket direct to. This means you will be able to build the unit with or without the reverse gearbox.

Stomper
08-24-2011, 06:38 PM
WOW that thing is going to look sweet. What kins of distance is there from behind the seat to the back of the buggy. When will the plans be available to purchase on you site

badlandbuggy
08-25-2011, 07:39 AM
Thanks Stomper. Engine clearances are too tight right now with the seat positioned as far back as possible (for people with long legs), so we're moving the rear drive system back 4" to get more clearance for the exhaust headers & so taller drivers will fit comfortably. Hayabusa engine measures approx 22" front to back, 22" wide, 28" high with air intake.

After we've completed & tested the running vehicle for a few months, we'll finalize & release construction plans, offer fabricated/machined parts, welded chassis's & kits. We're planning to have the vehicle running & begin testing by the end of October 2011.

phidelt508
08-25-2011, 09:42 AM
Hate to ask but what happened to the rest of the donor bike? It has some parts I could use for a bike build I am working on, let me know and the buggy is BAD!!!!1:D

badlandbuggy
08-25-2011, 11:45 AM
We've still got all the rest of the donor bike (2006 Hayabusa). What parts you looking for? E-mail me at info@badlandbuggy.com We're eventually selling the unused donor bike parts to a local motorcycle recycler who's agreed to buy anything we don't use, but anything we can offer you now, we will. Everthing is in excellent condition, bike was never abused at all.

phidelt508
08-25-2011, 02:10 PM
Email sent, thanks for discussing it!

badlandbuggy
08-25-2011, 03:17 PM
Here's the Yoshi pipes

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00064-20110822-1843.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00066-20110822-1844.jpg

We're chopping the headers & going 2 to 1 each side of the engine instead of the 4 to 2 shown.

badlandbuggy
08-26-2011, 11:29 AM
Here's the new logo for MEGALODON. What color do you like best. Black, Blue or Red?

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/BLACK.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/BLUE.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/RED.jpg

wildcatkit52
08-26-2011, 11:31 AM
depends on the colors of the machine!

bluezone
08-27-2011, 01:20 AM
Blue. :)

Joe
08-27-2011, 02:13 AM
Yep......BLUE :)

GrossGraphix
08-28-2011, 07:21 AM
depends on the colors of the machine!


I agree. Color of the rest of it will greatly effect how the colors play off each other.

Glock n Ballz
08-28-2011, 08:36 AM
It's a shark, so I must say blue for the first one, but No. 2 really would look good in black.

NFG
09-01-2011, 03:52 AM
You cant go wrong with black!

Stomper
09-06-2011, 07:19 PM
You cant go wrong with black!

X2!

badlandbuggy
09-07-2011, 03:51 PM
We had to chop & reposition the rear drive/suspension system to fit the Hayabusa engine making sure we have lots of room left for tall (long leg) drivers. Here's the latest pics:

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00075-20110906-1855.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00078-20110906-1947.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00077-20110906-1904.jpg

And here's the jig we made for the rear wheel hub carriers:

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00076-20110906-1856.jpg

Stomper
09-07-2011, 04:01 PM
That thing is looking damn sweet Bruce. I can't wait to see more pictures. I love to see build pics.

ErwinBnl
09-07-2011, 05:00 PM
What Stomper says!

What a great looking machine![smilie=ecstatic.gi:
I love the design, can't wait to get the plans:cool:

I hope to build one someday!

Hope to see some more pictures of it soon!


And for the color? Blue!


Erwin

millbilly
09-14-2011, 01:18 AM
More pic's.... Is this done yet????

badlandbuggy
09-14-2011, 07:15 AM
We installed the rear coil over shocks recently along with the rear upper shock mounts & mocked up the rear shocks with rear prototype steel a-arms for fitment. We're currently waiting on the machine shop to complete the final billet aluminum rear a-arms & machine the rear wheel hubs. We're also waiting on a lost shipment for the front tires/wheels in order to complete the front suspension & steering. It's a long way from being fully completed.

badlandbuggy
09-20-2011, 07:35 AM
New front & rear sand tires from Dune Buggy Sand Rails, BAJA Bug from budget builder projects to high dollar extreme machines we have the parts you need. | Sand Parts - Sand Rail and Dune Buggy Parts (http://www.sandparts.com)

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00087-20110919-1836.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00086-20110919-1836.jpg

Fuel tank design & full scale mock up to check for fitment. Tank uses stock Hayabusa fuel sending unit & Hayabusa locking gas fill cap. Tank will be stainless steel.
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00085-20110918-1205.jpg

We repositioned the rear suspension mounts/Jeffco reverse gear box mount to give another 5" of room for the Hayabusa engine.
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00081-20110917-1631.jpg

Here's a view from the rear showing the upper shock mounts, Radflo coil over shocks & rear upper a-arm prototypes. We're currently making billet aluminum rear a-arms to replace the steel a-arms shown.
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00080-20110917-1630.jpg

ErwinBnl
09-21-2011, 07:54 AM
Wow that is really good looking!![smilie=ecstatic.gi:

What a good looking machine!:cool:

Can't wait to see more pictures of it and to inspect the building plans:D

Keep up the good work!
Thanks for sharing...

Erwin

nutnbolt2002
09-21-2011, 10:05 AM
Looks real good Bruce, I like the rear roof-cab back tubes, the way they come up and go forward. I wonder about how those reservoirs hold up on those rear shocks, to me they look like they need some more support.

badlandbuggy
09-21-2011, 12:29 PM
Thanks for the feedback!

Stainless steel tank is under fabrication today along with all the other front & rear a-arms. Finally decided on front brakes, wheel hubs, spindles. We're going with an Empi Race Trim Front Brake Kit (EMPI #16-2517) which includes 5 bolt on 205mm aluminum wheel hubs, Wilwood calipers, Wilwood rotors & fits the VW Combo Spindles. It's definitely overkill on the brakes & wheel hubs for such a small light vehicle but we will be running this buggy pretty hard during testing (possibly racing) & we don't want to skimp on braking, quality or most importantly, safety. If it's worth doing, it's worth over-doing, lol.

Thanks again, Anthony at sandparts.com, for hooking us up with some top quality parts! We're also going to try out his new Combo Spindles on Project: MEGALODON.
A-Arm Conversion Combo Spindles Pair Left and Right | Sand Parts - Sand Rail and Dune Buggy Parts (http://www.sandparts.com/servlet/the-1614/A-dsh-Arm-Conversion-Combo-Spindles/Detail)

badlandbuggy
09-22-2011, 01:22 PM
Rear Billet Aluminum A-Arm blanks as they came from waterjetting & before finish machining

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/IMG00088-20110922-1134.jpg

daaboots
09-23-2011, 06:47 AM
Wow.... you're realling going all out with those rear A-Arms [smilie=ecstatic.gi:

badlandbuggy
09-23-2011, 07:14 AM
Here's what the finished Rear Aluminum A-arms will look like

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/AssyRearA-armMegalodon-Prototype01.jpg

And here's what the tubular steel version of the Rear A-arms are like

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/WeldmentRearA-ArmwithLaseredParts.jpg

IceFyre13th
09-23-2011, 12:19 PM
of all the build threads, this is the best one ever!!!

badlandbuggy
09-23-2011, 06:15 PM
Love these aluminum a-arms offered by Tatum:
Tatum Motor Sports - A Arm Set, Single Shock Mount (http://www.tatummotorsports.com/product_info.php?products_id=136)

Those a-arms are smokin' hot....

badlandbuggy
09-23-2011, 06:55 PM
Here's the latest conceptual CAD rendering of the new Modular Rear Suspension for Project: MEGALODON. No pricing set yet until after all testing is complete, but we will be offering a package like this at badlandbuggy.com in the new year (along with the matching Modular Front Suspension).

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/MRSsample01-WM-WM.jpg

Stomper
09-25-2011, 04:26 PM
Looking damn fine Bruce. That is going to be one cool looking ride. Do you plan on having alternative options for stuff like the rear drive and suspenssion other than the one you are making. I mean for us guys that actualy have a bottom in our pockets.:p

badlandbuggy
09-25-2011, 06:06 PM
Thanks Stomper! Yes, our new Modular Rear Suspension System shown is the "full meal deal" (ie: billet aluminum a-arms, coil over shocks with piggy back reservoirs & the reverse/differential unit) & is the upper end of what we will be offering. We also have it designed (and we will be prototyping & testing this winter) where our new Modular Rear Suspension System can be configured without the Jeffco Reverse Gear Box (direct chain drive - no reverse), steel a-arms & fox air shocks, which substantially brings the cost way down.

It's kinda cool to showcase the upper end of our design ideas & prototypes, while still keeping it within our budget. We do not have bottomless pockets either, lol. We want this type of unit to be available to any buggy builder with choices to fit just about any budget. Great question, thanks!

MC@ Performance Fab
09-25-2011, 06:12 PM
Thats the size sprocket a FNR box needs to deal with the heat issue.

minibajaman
09-26-2011, 09:22 AM
Looking good so far! What is the main reason for the billet a-arms, just looks? I would think they have to be heavier than the steel version since they are not hollow, and more expensive in both material and manufacturing costs.

Is the rear upright welded steel or billet aluminum?

badlandbuggy
09-26-2011, 10:44 AM
Looking good so far! What is the main reason for the billet a-arms, just looks? I would think they have to be heavier than the steel version since they are not hollow, and more expensive in both material and manufacturing costs.

Is the rear upright welded steel or billet aluminum?

Thanks! Billet A-Arms for both looks & strength. We're getting them annodized too for extra surface hardening. Yep, they will be heavier, more expensive & unbelievably stronger. We've also built the steel versions.

Rear wheel hub carriers are welded steel parts.

daaboots
09-27-2011, 07:12 AM
Looking great Bruce! It's nice to have a Canadian builder doing some cool stuff ;)

badlandbuggy
09-28-2011, 06:05 PM
Just spent the day with a hi tech 3D scanning company who came to our shop to do 3D scans of the Hayabusa engine & the Corbeau seat. This will help us in designing motor mounts, exhaust headers, firewall & generally getting our tolerances much tighter. I'll post some images of the CAD models when we get them back from post processing.

badlandbuggy
10-13-2011, 10:42 PM
Been updating our CAD design as Project: MEGALODON progresses. Here's the latest CAD design.

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/MegalodonbyBadlandBuggy-view7-WM-WM.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/MegalodonbyBadlandBuggy-view2-WM-WM.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/MegalodonbyBadlandBuggy-view3-WM-WM.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/MegalodonbyBadlandBuggy-view4-WM-WM.jpg

Thanks once again goes to Anthony at sandparts.com for getting us some great parts for Project: MEGALODON including the new Race Trim Front Brake Kit, the front Combo Spindles, Buggy Whip, Wilwood Pedal Kit & especially the sand tires & aluminum wheels.

The prototype is getting close to running. We're moving it to the new shop (next week) for mechanical assembly followed by testing (hopefully soon!).

We're off to SEMA 2011 in Las Vegas a few weeks too. Hope to meet with some of the parts vendors for Project: MEGALODON.

bluezone
10-14-2011, 02:06 AM
That is some sick as cad designs. :)

nutnbolt2002
10-14-2011, 07:22 AM
That thing is stunning Bruce. It's beautiful and it also looks like it has a big set of balls.

ErwinBnl
10-14-2011, 07:39 AM
Wauw!!![smilie=ecstatic.gi:

Just... Wauw!!![smilie=ecstatic.gi:

I wanna have/build it!:cool:

Also can't wait to see some photos of your progress Bruce!

Erwin

Promod1955
10-14-2011, 07:39 AM
Looks great Bruce! we need a 2 seater version of megalodon!!

badlandbuggy
10-14-2011, 08:01 AM
Thanks for the positive feedback, everyone!

I put about 80 manhours in the last week or so into getting the CAD design up to date with the latest wheel hubs, brakes, pedal kit, suspension & all the final chassis changes. Still missing rod ends & some of the nuts & bolts, which I'm working on. The seat & Hayabusa engine CAD models were scanned with a 3D scanner & solid models created. Very cool technology. They are accurate to 0.004".

I'm working on the side body panels, brake lines, cables, engine mounts, rad mounts, exhaust mounts & a few other goodies next. The work never ends, lol

The actual prototype build is coming along nicely too. We've built the steel versions of all the suspension a-arms. The prototype billet aluminum rear a-arms are still at the machine shop. That machining is being programmed into CNC & should expect to see them by the end of October. Stainless steel fuel tank is done. Chassis is completed. Steering is complete. Brakes are complete. Still need to purchase brake lines, brake hoses, morse cables, modify exhaust, install engine, connect fuel lines, yada, yada, yada...

I'll post new build photos very soon. Keep the comments coming...

For more CAD photos, check out our Facebook page at Badland Buggy - Automotive - Leduc, AB | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/badlandbuggy)

badlandbuggy
10-14-2011, 08:05 AM
Oh, and yes, there will be a two seater version coming with the same front & rear modular suspension. That's the next project after MEGALODON.

badlandbuggy
10-14-2011, 09:15 AM
Here's a few more CAD models...

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/MegalodonbyBadlandBuggy-view5-WM-WM.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/MegalodonbyBadlandBuggy-view6-WM-WM.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/AssyWilwoodReverseMountPedalwithMasterCylinders-ExplodedView.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/AssyGearboxReverseJeffco.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/16-2517-AssyFrontBrakeKit-DriversSide.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/DashSuzukiGSX1300RHayabusa2006.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/MegalodonbyBadlandBuggy-view1-WM-WM.jpg

ttginc
10-14-2011, 10:00 AM
Very meticulous...nice! I can see the reflection of the camera in the gauges. I'm assuming you did a photo overlay on the cad model? Everything looks really good.

MattB
10-14-2011, 01:19 PM
This is awesome... love the cad work

Promod1955
10-14-2011, 02:06 PM
Oh, and yes, there will be a two seater version coming with the same front & rear modular suspension. That's the next project after MEGALODON.

[smilie=ecstatic.gi:

Sockets
10-14-2011, 03:23 PM
very nice work

darin
10-14-2011, 04:27 PM
hi you should put a t wing on the back i fell it would make it more finished look

badlandbuggy
10-14-2011, 08:16 PM
hi you should put a t wing on the back i fell it would make it more finished look

I've toyed with the wing idea. Actually drawn several versions of MEGALODON with & without a rear wing. Honestly, to me, it just doesn't look right with a rear wing. My opinion is that the wing is more "bling" adding weight & not really functional. I'm more inclined to reduce unfunctional parts (weight) wherever possible to increase performance (weight to power ratio).

Opinions?

badlandbuggy
10-14-2011, 08:27 PM
Very meticulous...nice! I can see the reflection of the camera in the gauges. I'm assuming you did a photo overlay on the cad model? Everything looks really good.

Yeah, took individual photos of each gauge, turn signal, arrow, etc... & overlayed them onto the solid CAD model for the Hayabusa Dash Panel. The carbon fiber look is a material color within Autodesk Inventor Professional 2012. The CAD model looks virtually identical to the real thing, right down to the wiring harness mount on the back side (not shown). Yep, I'm that anal.... lol

badlandbuggy
10-14-2011, 11:57 PM
Here's the last of the CAD renderings for Project: MEGALODON

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/Megalodon-Rendering01-WM-WM.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/Megalodon-Rendering04-WM-WM.jpg

I post up some real photos after tomorrow's pre-assembly...

bluezone
10-15-2011, 05:40 AM
Looks to me your mufflers will be gone after your 1st jump in the buggy. Swing arm say hi to muffler. or it just the CAD files making it look like that?

badlandbuggy
10-15-2011, 05:47 PM
Okay, enough CAD renderings. Finally, here are the real photos of the first pre-assembly for Project: MEGALODON.

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/Megalodon-RollingChassis01-WM-WM.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/Megalodon-RollingChassis02-WM-WM.jpg

Got to build the front lower shock mounts & adjust the rear upper shock mounts to set the ride height. That's tomorrows project. Then we're moving the vehicle to the new shop next week for the engine install & finishing. Then on to testing...

Tom
10-15-2011, 10:38 PM
Hey Bruce,

Its nice to see your buggy prototype come to the rolling stage, congratulations!! The buggy looks very cool. Now when you coming to my place again? :D

Sorry for not keeping in touch i work 6-7 days a week so finding time to update and look at my emails is a nightmare.

Keep in touch, i would love to see the buggy up close.

Tom

Glock n Ballz
10-16-2011, 10:14 AM
Wow Bruce. Looks tuff. You guys are really going all out!

Question: is it my imagination or is the JeffCo hanging down below bottom of frame a little? If it is, are you worried about hitting anything, or will there be a "ramped" skid plate to keep stuff from smacking the diff?

I had also wondered about rear arms hitting mufflers.

Cant wait to see it drive.

Respectfully,

bluezone
10-16-2011, 03:22 PM
Is it hanging down and that 1 other part I seen on the buggy I didnt like. Easy fix would be a ramp / angle from floor to it.

But the buggy is looking sick. Can wait to see it ripping the sand up. [smilie=ecstatic.gi:

Glock n Ballz
10-16-2011, 03:28 PM
It does look sick. And it is gonna have soooo much power.

I still submit Bruce should have a high stakes raffle. I'd pay a C note for a ticket.

Bruce just needs to figure out how many tickets to sell to get er paid for!

Talk about drawing interest to your buggy...I'm sure it'll never happen.

badlandbuggy
10-16-2011, 09:32 PM
Wow Bruce. Looks tuff. You guys are really going all out!

Question: is it my imagination or is the JeffCo hanging down below bottom of frame a little? If it is, are you worried about hitting anything, or will there be a "ramped" skid plate to keep stuff from smacking the diff?

I had also wondered about rear arms hitting mufflers.

Cant wait to see it drive.

Respectfully,

The rear suspension housing sits about 3.75" lower than the underside of the chassis tubes. The underside of the housing is 3/16" thick steel plate surrounding the Jeffco unit, acting as a full skidplate. There are gusset plates that are angled from the chassis to the rear housing mounting plate. Clearance from floor to underside of the rear housing is 15"& clearance to the underside of the chassis is currently 18.75". My lifted Jeep with 37" tires only still has 14.5" clearance to the pumpkin, so I think the buggy should do fine. I still may lift the rear end of the buggy slightly higher mainly for the right look & stance, but not too high as to affect center of gravity.

She's a beast for sure. I love the look so far, but there's a long way to go yet & I'm sure more little things will get refined as we go.

As for the mufflers, that's where I just through them into CAD. We haven't actually located them on the buggy just yet. They'll probably get tucked up under the coil overs somewhere but not too close to the fuel tank. Yeah, they look kinda out of place where they are right now on the CAD. Good catch guys.

Thanks for the feedback! It's very appreciated.

badlandbuggy
10-16-2011, 09:39 PM
It does look sick. And it is gonna have soooo much power.

I still submit Bruce should have a high stakes raffle. I'd pay a C note for a ticket.

Bruce just needs to figure out how many tickets to sell to get er paid for!

Talk about drawing interest to your buggy...I'm sure it'll never happen.


Sorry, no raffle tickets on this one, lol. Project: MEGALODON is specifically being built to be our test buggy, a race vehicle & one of our show vehicles that we'll take out to promote the business in 2012. This is the vehicle we intend to take to SEMA in 2012 (hopefully).

badlandbuggy
10-19-2011, 10:15 AM
Got some stainless steel spacers machined to fit the Latest Rage Combo Spindles from sandparts.com. They center the rod ends & misalignment bushings nicely on the spindle units, and because they are stainless, they'll never rust. Makes a tight suspension/steering tie rod pivot points at the wheels.

Very impressed with the overall quality of the Combo Spindles. All TIG welded, laser cut & CNC formed steel housing with a machined spindle. Look bulletproof. And they would work very well in ST2-LT, ST3 & ST4. Easy to bolt on purchased wheel hubs with brakes. Might be great solution for anyone building a Badland Buggy vehicle & wants front brakes.

I'll snap a photo & post soon.

maybebuggy
10-19-2011, 10:48 AM
Any concern with those front shock towers flexing or not being a hard point? I assume thy wil be strengthened somewhere down the line? Not criticizing just curious on the mechanics of it btw.
Looks super cool.

badlandbuggy
10-19-2011, 03:18 PM
The front shock towers are 3/16" thick mild steel plates, boxed in beams, essentially. Plenty strong, similar as the ST4 front shock tower design. Continuous dual plates run from one upper shock mount to the other shock mount with plate boxing them in.

MattB
10-21-2011, 02:35 PM
C'mon more pix plz!!!!!!!!!!

Have you got your billet a-arms done yet? I'm getting impatient!![smilie=ecstatic.gi:

Oh,also ive notice on your website, you're using Inventor, do you make the frame as an assembly, or as a part? Im drawing up my frame on Inventor now.

Thanks a lot... Matt

badlandbuggy
10-21-2011, 02:42 PM
Our machine shop had to make some custom tooling in order to build the billet a-arms, that's the hold up there, they are still a few weeks out. We're getting ready to move Project: MEGALODON to the new fab shop (8000 sq ft!) in Edmonton.

badlandbuggy
11-08-2011, 08:46 AM
We finally moved Megalodon to the new fab shop last night. More photos coming soon.

maybebuggy
11-19-2011, 08:23 PM
Are the specs for travel, wheelbase, ground clearance, height, length and projected weight listed anywhere? Without specs I cant figure out how big it is, maybe a person in the picture for perspective I suppose. Is it ST2 sized? Looks great.

Thanks!

badlandbuggy
11-21-2011, 08:06 AM
MEGALODON specs are:

wheelbase = 96"
length, overall = 126"
width, front = 72" (sand tires), 74" (off road tires)
width rear = 86" (sand tires), 74" (off road tires)
height, overall = 66"
ground clearance = 21" (ground to underside chassis), 16.5" (ground to underside rear diff housing)
est. weight (dry) = 950 lbs
wheel travel = 18"-20" front & rear
shocks = coil over shock with optional reservoirs
chassis mat'l = DOM 1.50" x 0.095"
fuel capacity = 6 gal (25 liters)
drivetrain = reverse gearbox with differential, 930 CV's, 4340 splined axles, micro stub axles
engine type (recommended) = min. 600cc motorcycle engine, liquid cooled, fuel injected, chain drive
wheel hubs = billet aluminum Race Trim, 5 bolt on 205 mm
brakes = Wilwood calipers & Disc Rotors, all four wheels
pedals = Wilwood reverse hung, two pedal unit
seating = single seat
steering = rack & pinion

We're currently working on setting up the new fab shop & preparing kits for existing buggy models as well as MEGALODON kits. Kits will be available in 2012, along with construction plans for MEGALODON. Final fab on MEGALODON is still underway. More photos coming soon.

blokhead
11-21-2011, 10:01 AM
Are these plans for building the megalodon from scratch or for constructing the kits that you are working on ?

badlandbuggy
11-22-2011, 07:52 AM
We will be offering complete construction plans for MEGALODON so you can build it from scratch. We will also be offering kits (chassis pre-bent tube kits, laser cut steel plate kits, steering column kits, a-arm kits, etc...) in 2012.

No solid release dates set yet as we have to complete & test the MEGALODON prototype first then get the shop completely set up for it & have inventory built & ready before we offer any products. We've been busy at the new shop getting equipment installed & getting other current fabrication projects completed & out the door, that's the delay with the buggy products right now.

yoshi
11-22-2011, 08:27 AM
Looks really good so far.

Couple q's:

How much ground clearance at full bump? (frame/rear subframe)
How long are the axles?

blokhead
11-22-2011, 08:43 AM
We will be offering complete construction plans for MEGALODON so you can build it from scratch. We will also be offering kits (chassis pre-bent tube kits, laser cut steel plate kits, steering column kits, a-arm kits, etc...) in 2012.

No solid release dates set yet as we have to complete & test the MEGALODON prototype first then get the shop completely set up for it & have inventory built & ready before we offer any products. We've been busy at the new shop getting equipment installed & getting other current fabrication projects completed & out the door, that's the delay with the buggy products right now.

Thank you !

badlandbuggy
11-23-2011, 12:42 PM
Looks really good so far.

Couple q's:

How much ground clearance at full bump? (frame/rear subframe)
How long are the axles?

Thanks Yoshi. Your buggies are awesome, by the way!

I haven't measured the ground clearance under full compression with the coil springs removed, just yet, but as it sits right now, MEGALODON has 21-1/2" clearance to the underside of the chassis frame & 16-1/2" clearance under the rear diff housing. And the wheels have 20" of wheel travel. Think we're using 24" long axles, but I'll have to confirm.

badlandbuggy
11-23-2011, 12:44 PM
Here's more photos (finally) of the rear a-arms during machining. We started with a solid chunk of billet aluminum, had it waterjet slightly oversized & then to the CNC milling machine

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/BilletAluminumA-ArmsbyBadlandBuggy01.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/BilletAluminumA-ArmsbyBadlandBuggy02.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/BilletAluminumA-ArmsbyBadlandBuggy03.jpg

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j333/badland1970/BilletAluminumA-ArmsbyBadlandBuggy04.jpg

yoshi
11-23-2011, 02:25 PM
Thanks Yoshi. Your buggies are awesome, by the way!

I haven't measured the ground clearance under full compression with the coil springs removed, just yet, but as it sits right now, MEGALODON has 21-1/2" clearance to the underside of the chassis frame & 16-1/2" clearance under the rear diff housing. And the wheels have 20" of wheel travel. Think we're using 24" long axles, but I'll have to confirm.


Thank ya much. I am extremely impressed with your new design, looks very high end.


Is the 21-1/2", and the 16-1/2" numbers ride height, or full extension? If it is ride height, how much higher can the frame go before the tires actually come off the ground?

Sorry for all the questions, just curious.....:D

RickS.
11-23-2011, 03:17 PM
Thanks Yoshi. Your buggies are awesome, by the way!

I haven't measured the ground clearance under full compression with the coil springs removed, just yet, but as it sits right now, MEGALODON has 21-1/2" clearance to the underside of the chassis frame & 16-1/2" clearance under the rear diff housing. And the wheels have 20" of wheel travel. Think we're using 24" long axles, but I'll have to confirm.

I'm curious too.
With all you have wraped up in this I'm actually surprised you need to remove coils to know these numbers. Does your CAD model not represent what you've built?

badlandbuggy
11-23-2011, 03:41 PM
I'm curious too.
With all you have wraped up in this I'm actually surprised you need to remove coils to know these numbers. Does your CAD model not represent what you've built?

Our CAD models are highly accurate to the actual build. Great idea, I'll pull up the overall CAD model & read off the theoretical ground clearances under full suspension compression. Don't know the numbers off the top of my head, it was months ago when I first designed it, have to reference the CAD model to get the figures. I'll still check it on the prototype to be certain that what I post is accurate to the real build, before I post the numbers. I'll snap a few photos of the measurements (full droop/full compression) with a tape measure.

RickS.
11-23-2011, 03:51 PM
Cool. Look forward to seeing it.

yoshi
11-23-2011, 03:54 PM
Our CAD models are highly accurate to the actual build. Great idea, I'll pull up the overall CAD model & read off the theoretical ground clearances under full suspension compression. Don't know the numbers off the top of my head, it was months ago when I first designed it, have to reference the CAD model to get the figures. I'll still check it on the prototype to be certain that what I post is accurate to the real build, before I post the numbers. I'll snap a few photos of the measurements (full droop/full compression) with a tape measure.


My concern with the current numbers you've posted, is IF the 21-1/2" and the 16-1/2" ground clearance numbers are at full extension of the shock and not at ride height, to have 20" of rear wheel travel would mean when the subframe has bottomed out on the ground, the wheel could actually be lifted 3.5" higher off the ground, which makes the useable travel actually 16.5" with no ground clearance at full bump and shock shaft showing when the frame has bottomed out.

badlandbuggy
11-23-2011, 04:03 PM
Hey Yoshi, I noticed from your location that you're in Broken Arrow, OK. I was in Stillwater, OK just last year. Beautiful part of the country and very friendly people.

Just this past week, I've been doing some research for the company that I work for in my day job & we were looking for good precision machine shops specifically in the Tulsa/Broken Arrow area (not related to buggies whatsoever). This company is considering setting up a shop in either Tulsa or Houston. Any recommendations on trusted high production machine shops? If yes, can you e-mail PM or e-mail me?

yoshi
11-23-2011, 04:09 PM
Hey Yoshi, I noticed from your location that you're in Broken Arrow, OK. I was in Stillwater, OK just last year. Beautiful part of the country and very friendly people.

Just this past week, I've been doing some research for the company that I work for in my day job & we were looking for good precision machine shops specifically in the Tulsa/Broken Arrow area (not related to buggies whatsoever). This company is considering setting up a shop in either Tulsa or Houston. Any recommendations on trusted high production machine shops? If yes, can you e-mail PM or e-mail me?


How high of production? I have a machinist that makes all my parts. He has 2 good sized CNC mills and 1 cnc lathe for his main work. He does very good work and builds some pretty intense parts for some people. He was working with some 1" round material the other day that was over $300 an inch and was drilling some very small holes in it for cleaning out toxic waste systems. He's really good, but not sure if he could do massive volumes fast.

The guys next to me have 6 massive CNC machines and another huge building across the street full of equipment. I think they may do stuff exclusively for NASA, but depending on what kind of quantity your needing, and what kind of work, I could ask them?

badlandbuggy
11-23-2011, 04:26 PM
Yoshi, I'll post photos of the full droop & full compression of MEGALODON after this weekend, when we work on on it next. Without looking at the CAD models or the actual vehicle right now, my gut tells me that we may bottom out on the diff housing, as you & RickS are suggesting. Just means we'll limit the suspension travel or raise the vehicle slightly. Will post the numbers & photos after I have them. Thanks guys!

The machine shops we're looking into are for precision robotic welding components and industrial type equipment, mainly aluminum, stainless & mild steel parts. The smaller precision components are in the 100-500 quantity units per order with fairly quick turn around times (3-6 weeks). I've been looking into Padget Machine & Ideal Specialty around the Tulsa area. You have any experiences with these shops?

Basically, we're trying to determine that if this company were to set up shop in the Tulsa area that we would have several reliable machine shops, laser cutting shops & fab shops to source from. We already know we have lots to choose from in the Houston area, but if anyone has good recommendations for Houston area machine shops, I'd like to hear from you too.

yoshi
11-23-2011, 06:15 PM
The machine shops we're looking into are for precision robotic welding components and industrial type equipment, mainly aluminum, stainless & mild steel parts. The smaller precision components are in the 100-500 quantity units per order with fairly quick turn around times (3-6 weeks). I've been looking into Padget Machine & Ideal Specialty around the Tulsa area. You have any experiences with these shops?

Basically, we're trying to determine that if this company were to set up shop in the Tulsa area that we would have several reliable machine shops, laser cutting shops & fab shops to source from. We already know we have lots to choose from in the Houston area, but if anyone has good recommendations for Houston area machine shops, I'd like to hear from you too.

Never heard of them. We have a pretty big laser shop right up the street as well. They do really good work. I actually have most of my stuff plasma cut from a different local shop that has awesome prices and has 3 really big machines. I've been really happy with their work if that's something you would be interested in for some parts. I use the laser shop for my logo plates and my rotors........

badlandbuggy
11-26-2011, 09:28 AM
Ran through the suspension numbers in the CAD model of MEGALODON and here are the theoretical suspension travel spec's:

Rear: Full Droop Ground Clearance = 17.5" to underside of Diff Housing
Rear: Full Compression Ground Clearance = 1.75"-2.0" to underside of Diff Housing
Rear: Theoretical Wheel Travel = 18.0-18.2"

Front: Full Droop Ground Clearance = 22.0" to underside Chassis Frame
Front: Full Compression Ground Clearance = 2.5"-2.75" to underside Chassis Frame
Front: Theoretical Wheel Travel = 20.0-20.1"

We've set up our prototype with limit straps both front & rear to limit the full droop so as not to max out the angles on the 930 CV's, thus, your effective rear wheel travel will be realistically more like 16.0 to 16.5" and the front wheel travel will be more like 18.0 to 18.5". Some pretty good numbers for such a small sand rail. If we wanted to increase those suspension travel numbers, we would swap out the 21 degree 930 CV for 28 degree 930 CV & move to a 16" travel rear shock, but we're happy with these numbers for now.

RickS.
11-26-2011, 12:34 PM
21* 930's

yoshi
11-27-2011, 06:52 AM
Ran through the suspension numbers in the CAD model of MEGALODON and here are the theoretical suspension travel spec's:

Rear: Full Droop Ground Clearance = 17.5" to underside of Diff Housing
Rear: Full Compression Ground Clearance = 1.75"-2.0" to underside of Diff Housing
Rear: Theoretical Wheel Travel = 18.0-18.2"

Front: Full Droop Ground Clearance = 22.0" to underside Chassis Frame
Front: Full Compression Ground Clearance = 2.5"-2.75" to underside Chassis Frame
Front: Theoretical Wheel Travel = 20.0-20.1"

We've set up our prototype with limit straps both front & rear to limit the full droop so as not to max out the angles on the 930 CV's, thus, your effective rear wheel travel will be realistically more like 16.0 to 16.5" and the front wheel travel will be more like 18.0 to 18.5". Some pretty good numbers for such a small sand rail. If we wanted to increase those suspension travel numbers, we would swap out the 21 degree 930 CV for 28 degree 930 CV & move to a 16" travel rear shock, but we're happy with these numbers for now.


Is the 17.5" ground clearance with full wheel extension including the limit straps, or is it less than 17.5" with the straps installed?

17-1/2" ground clearance at full extension - 1.75" or 2" ground clearance at full compression = 15.75" or 15.5" wheel travel, assuming the limit straps allow 17.5" ground clearance at full extension.

yoshi
11-27-2011, 07:24 AM
My first single seater had 1" ground clearance and I had 21" wheel travel. I was bottoming out all the time, it was quite painful and i'm sure the chassis didn't like it either. I changed the limit to 5" ground clearance and dropped the wheel travel to 16" and it was 100 percent better, I didn't notice the loss in travel, I just noticed how much better everything felt, especially big jumps.

Don't get too wrapped up in travel numbers. Useable travel is more important and ground clearance is even more important for hard hits. Don't forget, the tires become bumpstops and will compress when the shocks have bottomed out, so it's still possible to bottom out a chassis and the frame is still going lower. Technically, going off frame travel, you actually have more than what it says on paper because even though most people go off "wheel travel", a more accurate system would be frame travel that incorporates tire compression, IMO. That system would take into account that the bottom of the tire would never go higher than the frame when measuring, because once it hits that point, the travel is no longer useable no matter how high it is.

If you wanna get technical about it (which no one does) your not really loosing much travel by raising your ground clearance, your just setting it up so the last bit of travel has a lot more compression to slow the chassis faster before it actually hits the ground.

If 2 frames have 20" ground clearance at full extension, one has 20" wheel travel and bottoms out every jump, and one has 16" travel, and still bottoms out or almost does since the last 4" travel are a lot stiffer from tire compression (to slow the downward travel before it hits the ground), which one do you really wanna ride in?

My SR2 has 5" frame ground clearance, I rarely bottom out my chassis and only have 18" of actual wheel travel. I could lower the ground clearance so I could claim over 20" wheel travel like a lot of people do, but the rail would not absorb impacts as well so I have set mine up to be the most efficient.

My SXS has 3.5" ground clearance and 14.5" wheel travel with 27" tall tires. People will notice the pain of bottoming the chassis out with little ground clearance before they notice loosing 2 or 3" wheel travel, IMO..

badlandbuggy
11-28-2011, 07:21 AM
I'm focusing more on getting the vehicle completed & tested. I agree, don't get too wrapped up in the numbers at this point. In the end, it's the customer that decides how good or bad the vehicle really is. Thanks for posting your suspension numbers too.

RickS.
11-28-2011, 10:16 AM
Ran through the suspension numbers in the CAD model of MEGALODON and here are the theoretical suspension travel spec's:

Rear: Full Droop Ground Clearance = 17.5" to underside of Diff Housing
Rear: Full Compression Ground Clearance = 1.75"-2.0" to underside of Diff Housing
Rear: Theoretical Wheel Travel = 18.0-18.2"

Front: Full Droop Ground Clearance = 22.0" to underside Chassis Frame
Front: Full Compression Ground Clearance = 2.5"-2.75" to underside Chassis Frame
Front: Theoretical Wheel Travel = 20.0-20.1"

We've set up our prototype with limit straps both front & rear to limit the full droop so as not to max out the angles on the 930 CV's, thus, your effective rear wheel travel will be realistically more like 16.0 to 16.5" and the front wheel travel will be more like 18.0 to 18.5". Some pretty good numbers for such a small sand rail. If we wanted to increase those suspension travel numbers, we would swap out the 21 degree 930 CV for 28 degree 930 CV & move to a 16" travel rear shock, but we're happy with these numbers for now.

If your Suspension has any camber gain then
I have to disagree with what you're saying about just swapping out cv's and easily increasing travel. Are your uprights or arms adjustable for camber?
It doesn't look like they are. Increasing travel to gain ground clearance only takes away from your built in camber, which I believe is fixed or Non-adjustable. Increasing tire size will gain clearance. What is your camber at full droop? What is it at ride height? Full bump? These numbers are fixed in relation to your travel. Adding or taking away from travel will directly affect these numbers. Most common set-up for the rear susp is zero at full droop. What are your ground clearance numbers with susp at zero camber? How much positive camber are you willing to live with to gain travel?

Glock n Ballz
12-31-2011, 06:07 AM
Ok Bruce it been a whole month. What the Hell Bro?

lost26
12-31-2011, 01:47 PM
ok Bruce It Been A Whole Month. What The Hell Bro?

X2 :d

Stomper
01-02-2012, 03:59 AM
Ok Bruce it been a whole month. What the Hell Bro?

X 3[smilie=whistle.gif]

boilermaker
01-08-2012, 10:52 PM
Maybe he learned something that he didn't like. Ive been following this build and i need a fix.

ErwinBnl
01-20-2012, 09:19 PM
Heeey Bruce!

I just watched your new YouTube video from the Megalodon, great!
Can't wait to get the plans!!

First I need to finish my ST2 Long Travel but I really hope to build the Megalodon in the future!!
What a great looking buggy! [smilie=heart.gif]

Erwin

nicolasdriver
01-23-2012, 04:13 PM
Badland Buggy presents MEGALODON Sand Rail Plans Countdown - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeiYVwz1QW8)

Bullnerd
01-23-2012, 04:19 PM
I'd like to see this car sitting with all four lower control arms parallel to the floor.

onlyguy
01-23-2012, 04:25 PM
At least the music was better for that video, the one on the website told me to die mother f****r die die mother f****r die. Kinda makes me disinterested in the buggy straight away.
the buggy however looks great but theres a seat missing.

Bullnerd
01-23-2012, 04:28 PM
At least the music was better for that video, the one on the website told me to die mother f****r die die mother f****r die. Kinda makes me disinterested in the buggy straight away.
the buggy however looks great but theres a seat missing.

LOL,yeah the first time I watched it my kids where watching too.Oh well,no big deal.

ErwinBnl
01-24-2012, 01:22 PM
Too bad that there aren't any (photo) updates on this topic :(

The pictures in the video are moving to fast, but maybe that's the whole idea haha

ErwinBnl
01-29-2012, 03:09 PM
Still 17 days of waiting... [smilie=non_banana2:

maybebuggy
02-08-2012, 02:14 PM
Awfully cool, hope to see it under power and turning at real speeds as opposed to tooling around the parking lot or something. Something this cool hopefully performs as well as it looks. :)

CARLRIDDLE
02-08-2012, 08:30 PM
Hibernating for the Canadian winter?

yoshi
02-08-2012, 10:57 PM
He's been traveling looking for more sources for machine work, laser work, etc. for his company. He stopped by my shop last week to introduce himself and get a couple recommendations for some of my local suppliers.

He may not even be back in Canada yet.......

Glock n Ballz
02-09-2012, 04:47 AM
Thanks for that Yosh.
I've been to your shop...very glad I went.

For those who have not met Yoshi, he is actually a pretty funny guy.

yoshi
02-09-2012, 08:20 AM
Thanks for that Yosh.
I've been to your shop...very glad I went.

For those who have not met Yoshi, he is actually a pretty funny guy.

I've had lots of guys call me funny, but your the first to call me pretty, which explains the accidental tripping/falling inappropriate hand grabbing you seem to be prone with while here.......

maybebuggy
02-14-2012, 11:34 AM
SEMA 2012?


Badland Buggy is heading to SEMA 2011 (Specialty Equipment Manufacturers Association) in Las Vegas on Nov 1-4 to attend this years? largest automotive aftermarket trade show in the world with the intention of debuting Project: MEGALODON at SEMA 2012.

Rapid3D News | Rapid3D 3D Laser Scanning and Reverse Engineering | Rapid3D 3D Laser Scanning and Reverse Engineering (http://3dlaserscanning.ca/rapidd-news/)

ErwinBnl
02-15-2012, 08:38 AM
YES!

I've got a set of MEGALODON buggy plans!

I have plans of a couple of buggies: Sidewinder, Piranha, Barracuda, ST2 Long Travel and now MEGALODON

I'm busy with my first overview of the plans, will read them in detail later this day. All I can say now is WOW! The plans are all in excellent quality vector PDF! I can zoom what I want, 100% quality!

Measurements are in inches and millimeters. Best quality plans I have!

Hope to build one in the near future but I can say it's a great buggy!

Thanks Bruce!

daaboots
02-15-2012, 10:24 AM
Congrats on the release of the plans Bruce!

maybebuggy
02-15-2012, 04:13 PM
Man I am so tempted but not without seeing one perform. The plan cost is not hte issue, I don't want to spend thousands building one to finds out it performs poorly and bump steers all over the place or what not, you know what I mean.

I am not saying it does, it may infact be the single greatest buggy ever designed, and it may perform better than it looks but man it should would be nice to see evidence that this is not all bark and no bite.

For me this is mainly due the the fact that it would be an actual race buggy not a play in the corn field doing donuts buggy.

I have 30 days or so before I get the frame, still getting parts and got just the welder today. Sure hope to see this run and jump before SEMA.

:)

leeck
02-15-2012, 04:26 PM
I thought Bruce wasn't releasing photos till the release date??? Well the release date has gone and past, so Bruce where are these photos and video of the completed buggy???

maybebuggy
02-15-2012, 06:08 PM
Waiting to see how the rear A-Arms work with the exhaust cans in the way. Easy to solve with a different exhaust route but that is what I mean, I don't want to have to solve the issues myself.

I bet it will be cool when they do release video though. :)

Glock n Ballz
02-16-2012, 10:32 AM
Waiting to see how the rear A-Arms work with the exhaust cans in the way. Easy to solve with a different exhaust route but that is what I mean, I don't want to have to solve the issues myself.

I bet it will be cool when they do release video though. :)

Last time I spoke with Bruce...a long time a go, I asked him about the exhaust and he told me it would be located different than the rendering for clearance.

Glock n Ballz
02-16-2012, 10:36 AM
Man I am so tempted but not without seeing one perform. The plan cost is not hte issue, I don't want to spend thousands building one to finds out it performs poorly and bump steers all over the place or what not, you know what I mean.

I am not saying it does, it may infact be the single greatest buggy ever designed, and it may perform better than it looks but man it should would be nice to see evidence that this is not all bark and no bite.

For me this is mainly due the the fact that it would be an actual race buggy not a play in the corn field doing donuts buggy.

I have 30 days or so before I get the frame, still getting parts and got just the welder today. Sure hope to see this run and jump before SEMA.

:)

I have to agree. As an Insepctor in the QA world, I need proof that sometnig is good. His website claims that this buggy has been prototyped. Doesnt say it has been tested.
He has spent toooo much cash not to follow though with some wicked video. I think we all want to see what this thing is made of...

C'Mon Bruce-Give us a status update. I want to be a fan, but for now I am a skeptic...hate to say it.
pa pa pa pleeeeeze???[smilie=whistle.gif]

leeck
03-08-2012, 02:01 PM
still nothing??? bruce do you have anything to add on the build... really looking forward to seeing this thing in action.

Tom
03-08-2012, 11:19 PM
I have to agree. As an Insepctor in the QA world, I need proof that sometnig is good. His website claims that this buggy has been prototyped. Doesnt say it has been tested.
He has spent toooo much cash not to follow though with some wicked video. I think we all want to see what this thing is made of...

C'Mon Bruce-Give us a status update. I want to be a fan, but for now I am a skeptic...hate to say it.
pa pa pa pleeeeeze???[smilie=whistle.gif]

Glock,

I have been talking to Bruce and he said i will not release any footage via pics or video for the vendors/sponsors... I know, i was looking forward to some pictures too. He's waiting until some show to unveil it (im guessing SEMA?) seems a Little to far away for me though lol. I believe its sometime in November 2012? anyway i told him that the forum is missing him, hopefully he will update a release date pretty soon.

leeck
03-08-2012, 11:35 PM
I'm sure he would sell alot more plans if he released something.

CARLRIDDLE
03-09-2012, 06:13 AM
And I thought he'd gone to the Bahama's for the Canadian winter.

moose79
03-09-2012, 06:35 AM
He was eaten by polar bears. afterall there is an abundance of them in canada lol [smilie=stupid.gif]

Rat4020
03-09-2012, 06:51 AM
He was eaten by polar bears. afterall there is an abundance of them in canada lol [smilie=stupid.gif] Yep I think the bears got him[smilie=rofl.gif]

Stomper
03-09-2012, 11:54 AM
Geez guys, theres no bears here in winter. Our winters are sooo cold and long even the polar bears hibernate.:D

Bullnerd
03-09-2012, 02:18 PM
I'm glad he left!

That thing is a pile of crap and will be a miserable failure!

moose79
03-09-2012, 02:19 PM
Yeah they come to Ontario where it's warmer lol

ErwinBnl
03-09-2012, 07:48 PM
Bullnerd.. why?

Are you joking?!

Bullnerd
03-10-2012, 11:20 AM
Everyone knows that I dont JOKE!

Rat4020
03-10-2012, 12:18 PM
I'm glad he left!

That thing is a pile of crap and will be a miserable failure!
Au those sound like fightin wordz there Pilgrim -John Wayne-[smilie=tr_sorry.gi: I couldnt help it..

Glock n Ballz
03-10-2012, 12:58 PM
Upcoming show or not, that doesn't explain his silence
Whatever. I'm so over it.

drgrenthum
03-10-2012, 01:16 PM
Doesnt matter if the buggy is good or bad. The launch sucked, they need to fire whoever does their marketing. If they wanted to do a soft launch of a new product they shouldnt of done the countdown and facebook notices.

Only thing we can think is something is wrong with the buggy; otherwise why do all the promotion and then once the launch day comes around go silent. They should be singing its praises and showing videos of it in action.

Bullnerd
03-10-2012, 01:27 PM
OF COURSE I"M JOKING!

I was just busting to get him to respond.

Didnt mean to start BASH-A-PALOOZA.

leeck
03-10-2012, 02:01 PM
I agree, if I were to buy anything I would want to do as much research as possible and in this case see some videos or a finished pic or something... I can't imagine him selling many plan sets without out showing us something.

moose79
03-10-2012, 02:59 PM
Does anyone know if he is in good health? maybe dead? im just pointing out what a bunch of assholes you would be if he was hurt, sick or dead!!!!!!!

Rat4020
03-10-2012, 03:00 PM
OF COURSE I"M JOKING!

I was just busting to get him to respond.

Didnt mean to start BASH-A-PALOOZA.
Now thatz funny fhit[smilie=rofl.gif][smilie=ecstatic.gi:[smilie=rofl.gif]

leeck
03-10-2012, 03:08 PM
I wouldn't feel like an asshole, I dont know him on a personal level so it wouldn't matter to me but I hope he is not, plus I would think he would have someone in place to take his spot if he is not there.

RickS.
03-10-2012, 04:06 PM
I really thought you were serious! Seriously!
Guess I'm all alone then. Not glad he's gone. Not that.
But I do see serious issues with certain aspects of the car, which I'm not going to point out.
I really think he's in over his head on this car.

Bullnerd
03-10-2012, 04:23 PM
Naaaa...I would never bash anyone or thier work like that.I have mucho respect for everyone on here.

I'm not a fan of the design either,but I respect the amount of work he has into it.

RickS.
03-10-2012, 04:59 PM
Yes

moose79
03-10-2012, 06:15 PM
oooops

drgrenthum
03-10-2012, 06:23 PM
Ouch, why are you attacking others???

I stand by my comments, i have the st4 plans and like them. Doesnt change the fact that the lack of communication and videos on a already released product sucks donkey testicles...... Not him personally but the poor product launch

(my comment may not make sense now, moose remove his prior comment)

daaboots
03-10-2012, 06:36 PM
Calm down people... no need to get all worked up :cool: If it wern't for people taking the time to make buggy plans, sell kits, complete parts, or complete buggies, many of us would not enjoy this great hobby. If you don't like the plans, then don't buy them. If you don't like the price of a plate kit, then don't buy it. Simple as that ;)

CARLRIDDLE
03-11-2012, 08:58 AM
Maybe the canadian Internet is down? Lol

They were moving shop. And as someone who's also moving I sympathize. Man I got a bunch of crap. One more week one more week one more week. Then back to buggy time hopefully.

Bullnerd
03-11-2012, 09:13 AM
Where did you move too Carl?

CARLRIDDLE
03-12-2012, 06:54 AM
Where did you move too Carl?


Only five miles away. Which is worse, cause moved it all on truck and trailer instead of tractor trailer. lol Mainly tools left.

MC@ Performance Fab
03-12-2012, 11:37 AM
Just guessing this is a side business and they are busy with the main business and will post when they have something to add.

2fast4u
03-25-2012, 11:51 PM
updates?

zuverinb
03-26-2012, 06:11 PM
This is the reply I got back from Badland on Facebook when I asked them if the Megalodon is drivable yet - "Our prototype Megalodon is done. We're working on the paint & such. After we unveil it at an upcoming event, we will release the photos, videos, etc... Stay tuned!" Badland

mx450rider
03-26-2012, 08:12 PM
It seems to me the rear end of the frame would hit the ground before the shocks bottom out? I'll be interested to see these videos..

2fast4u
03-27-2012, 12:00 PM
It's just so easy to take a quick photo with a smart phone & instantly post to Twitter in seconds. Would be cool if we could post a photo from a smart phone directly to minibuggy.net. Any ideas on how to do this anyone? If it's easy & quick, I'm game.

i agree 100% !!!


chanting "update minibuggy.net" over and over while having to constantly sign in after every post...

nice work by the way. if u remember me (project sick nasty) (slipknot jersey) from fb, i was following yall on there because it is easier.

wish this site would take notes and update! hey at least it doesnt change formats every week just to suit some teeny bopper fads.

cdog
04-12-2012, 07:47 PM
Now if someone would offer a rock solid means of 4wd to put in these machines........

2fast4u
04-13-2012, 05:40 PM
Now if someone would offer a rock solid means of 4wd to put in these machines........

amen to that!

odypilots
04-14-2012, 04:01 PM
i agree 100% !!!


chanting "update minibuggy.net" over and over while having to constantly sign in after every post...

nice work by the way. if u remember me (project sick nasty) (slipknot jersey) from fb, i was following yall on there because it is easier.

wish this site would take notes and update! hey at least it doesnt change formats every week just to suit some teeny bopper fads.

Don't bug too hard. It's enough work just monitering us guys. Without a very motivated web master, it's easy to mess up a site trying to add features.

X53Gunner
04-26-2012, 07:33 AM
Looking at buying the plans this weekend. Was wondering if there would be room for someone 6'4" tall. If not i can do some modding just was curious. Thanks!
Scott

Stomper
05-05-2012, 06:38 AM
Email Bruce. I emailed him the other day about the same thing. I am 6'2" 260lbs. He said he was 5'11"(if I remember correctly) and there was plenty room for him. He was very helpful. I just bought the plans but I am at work so I will not be able to see them until I get home tonight. It comes with all the dxf files also, which is a huge deal, I think. I also have the Edge barracuda plans and they don't come with the dxf files. I even emailed them and asked for them or even if the sold them and they would not. I have the Badland st2 plans and they are easy to read and follow. Plus I think the megalodon looks bad ass.

maybebuggy
05-06-2012, 10:32 AM
Wold be nice to see one in action (and not a flat corn field, looks like everything works there) to know if it works as good as it looks.

Stomper
05-06-2012, 10:57 AM
Yes it would. The plans sure look good. Well laid out and explained. It would be very easy to build from the plans and like I said before it sure is nice to have the dxf files also. It is very cool the way it laid out to use a jeffco reverse gear box or the economy open gear box in the plans. They both bolt right into the same brackets so the economy one could be easily replace with the jeffco at a later date. The only thing that I would look at upgrading so far is, it only has a 1" shaft for the center carrier shaft that the cv cups bolt to. I would upgrade to 1.375" It even comes with the files to mill out the billet a arms. I am just trying to figure out now if there is enough space in the engine compartment for a sled engine.
It is designed to have 31" tires, what would happen to the suspenssion geometry if the tire size was to drop to 27" would it make any/much difference. The kpi on the front would change but couldn't the angle be adjusted when fabricating them.

maybebuggy
05-06-2012, 01:08 PM
Economy is a chain drive setup in the plans correct?
Wonder if a protodie unit would fit. I got one right here.
My kid is switching from MX to Karting, talk about expensive entry costs, have to wait till net year for buggy buggy so I am building a motorcycle in the mean time.

Would love to see one of these chain drive. I have time now so I can wait and see. I believe they are going to SEMA with it.

With all the plans sold I hope someone starts a buggy build. Hint hint...

Stomper
05-06-2012, 01:25 PM
Yes the economy version is the chain drive. I'm not sure if protodie's unit would work. What is the length of it, from front to back. It may work, and you would just have to modify the tubing in that area. The area where the chain box bolts into is a plate set up that has the a arm mounts and is part of the main frame. When I last talked to Bruce he mentioned that they were going to SEMA.
As far as someone building one, I have 4 sets of plans right now Edge Barracuda, ST2, Megalodon, as well as my own design (not realy plans, I'm just winging it) and have been banging my head against the wall as to which one to start. Alot of the stuff i already have for my own design could be made to work with the Megalodon as long as I can figure out a way to use a sled engine. I am realy leaning towards the Megalodon because of the simplisity of the plans, especialy with the dxf files and may leave my own design for the next buggy after I have had some more buggy experience. After all my kid wants one too. The plans call for 1.5" tube with 5" clr which is a bonus because thats what I have.

maybebuggy
05-06-2012, 03:37 PM
The mounting plates on the ProtoDie adjustable spool box is 6.25 inches wide between wheels, 5.75 inches tall and 8.5 inches front to back. Thanks!

Stomper
05-07-2012, 07:30 PM
The center carrier mount section that bolts up to the frame is 14.375" from front to back so all that would have to be done to install protodies is add a bit more length to the bottom frame tubes. It would be a simple mod.
The whole system is actualy kind of neat. I am not very knowlwdgable on suspenssion but as far as the idea of the rear center carrier, it's neat.
It is a complete unit that can be removed and worked on if needed just by removing a few bolts. All that you would have to do is remove the lower shock bolt, the chain from the engine, the brake line or caliper from each rear wheel and the bolts that connect the rear center carrier mount to the frame and the whole unit comes right off, with the FNR box or the economy version "open" gear box.

Bullnerd
05-07-2012, 07:46 PM
I dont really have any interest in these,but I would like to see one running.Has Bruce totally given up on keeping this site updated or what?

Stomper
05-07-2012, 07:54 PM
Not sure whats going on with his updates here. When talking to him via email he said he was testing it around his home area and things seemed to working prety good so far. Thats all that was said.

CARLRIDDLE
05-08-2012, 10:15 AM
He was on here couple wks back, but last post was 6 months ago. He was cruising along with updates then...................................then....... ............................then.................. ............

maybebuggy
06-05-2012, 12:35 PM
No longer see them listed as a sponsor either.

ErwinBnl
06-05-2012, 03:25 PM
Strange!

boilermaker
06-05-2012, 10:55 PM
I'm thinking that he was hearing to many negatives on the build and he just said "to hell with this place".

maybebuggy
06-06-2012, 10:12 PM
Really, were people negative? I mean your exhaust wont clear your suspension cycling is not really negative it is more helpful.

boilermaker
06-07-2012, 12:43 AM
Well, you know, there is a saying about taking the heat and all. I thought there was something said about the frame hitting the ground and things like that...

nutnbolt2002
06-07-2012, 08:19 AM
Well I think Bruce is thicker skinned. At least I hope he is, because that Megalodon is the prettiest buggy I have seen and it would sure be nice to see it finished.

Stomper
06-08-2012, 02:29 PM
I agree it looks so cool.

fatal-exception
06-08-2012, 02:37 PM
How much of that buggy do you have built Stomper? :p

If he's not around because he's waiting for the CEMA show, I think he's making a big mistake....

yoshi
06-08-2012, 03:12 PM
It was in the March/April Sand Sports magazine......


I don't usually get the magazine, but was up there looking for the current issue (I have a rail featured this month) and was flipping through last months issue they still had on the stand and saw it.......