mini truggy design

[DUST_U]

Has anyone seen any mini truggy's. With independant in the front and a solid axle in the rear. Just thought it would be easier than setting up independant in the rear. But the engine would have to be in front then. I would use a rear axle out of a samari or some other mini. Any one seen or have something like this?

[SeufererMotorsports]

The closest thing to a mini truggy I have ever seen is the Trophy Kart. They are coming out with one of those with a 250 dirt bike engine in it. Herbst has one with the Kawasaki 450 quad engine in it. It halls butt. Other than that I have never heard of such a thing. The solid axle seems like a lot of extra weight. The other thing would be you would have to find a trike unit so you can hook up a drive shaft to a street bike engine. Other than that I think it would be a cool idea. I have always liked the idea of a truggy.

[Bullnerd]

This would work .

http://www.minibuggy.net/modules.php?na ... pic&t=2787

[nutz4sand]

IF you have Sand sports or can find it online where they show the inside of each page/article you can look at this issue in the link below. The Little Yellow roadster looking car in the bottom left corner is a rear wheel drive job with a big street bike motor up front. You can back order that issue if you want. The fellow who built it has a few good buddies with similiar little roadster bodied toys that they take to Dumont If my memory serves me correct (The magazine shows a few of them in it) . I have that very mag here but cannot find it! They are quite succesful duners but a lil on the heavy side. They used Datsun and other similiar rear axles (Once again if memory serves me right).

*http://www.sandsports.net/BackIssues/pages/10mayJune06Cover.htm

I myself have always had my eyes out for a light but strong rear straight axle. I would mount the motor in the rear with a shaft running right up front under or around the seat (in guarding of course) and then have a set of sprockets in the front to drop the power down and run a driveshaft from the front right to the very back. Thats way good travel could be had and the weight would be neared the back. Just another on the drawing board. I have also considered a dual rear suspension. An independant center that was on a float and when the float bottomed out against its stops then the IRS arms would have some travel left in them to move upside the now bottomed center diff. Works on paper but lots to mess with and I am wondering how it would handle corners. ( Be a lil nitemare thats for sure) The lightest rear straight axle I can imagine at this time that would handle power would be to make your own out of a light weight IRS and instead of suspension arms make it solid out of tubes all the way across then treat that like a solid axle. Cheap too. *Bill

[renegadespec1]

Originally Posted by Bullnerd\";p=\&quot

This would work .

http://www.minibuggy.net/modules.php?na ... pic&t=2787

So this will work?
Where's the proto type?

[TutTech]

Well speaking of Samurai rear ends I built this truggy.
It made it all the way to the wall throught the big dunes
with only 2 wheel drive.

Being short wheel base it had pretty good traction in the
rear with the fuel tank, spare tire and me sitting a little farther
back.

Keep the wheel base short and that helps.

Also you can buy gear .... uhm lack of words here.
(coupleing)
You can buy the coupleing to mount your motor
in the back run it up to the coupleing with its own gearing
inside itself
and it then runs your driveline back to your rearend
running you in the correct direction you need to match the motor
makeing you go forward etc.

I can ask work for the info on it.
The coupleing bolts directly to your driveline.



Mine was made all with Samurai trannies, drivelines etc.
It had a 100 inch wheel base and i should have kept it smaller
actually.

Had over 24 inches of rear wheel travel and could go more
but was worried about the stock drivelines u joints.

Anyways here take a look.





Thanks hope this gives you some input and ideas.

[nutz4sand]

SamuuurIIIIe SamerrrrI

I would luv to find a deal on a good lil Samuri to make into a dune buster. But looking at the back end of your yellow machine there makes a person wish there was a straight axle with the pig off to one side. The the motor could go right there behind the seat area (say a front drive engine and tranny) with a shaft running down one side to the diff. That WOULD make the axle a little weight biased though. I have seen things from Europe (I think)(no idea what they were) that had very offset diffs. Once again you could use an independant diff and make one real long special shaft to the otherside. Perfect no...But hey.... I also like the idea of a setup with the motor behind the driver in that space with chains delivering power to the rear tires.

I have seen Boat V drives that can handle nearly anything. These can take the power and send it back the other way (and in the opposite rotation) but they are not cheap nor really light ( but not heavy like a transfer case) as they ARE capable of handling blown v-8s in drag boats.

When you say coupling are you talking about a device that connects a motor bike motor to a drvieshaft (Like a lot of Dwarf cars use?) Or are you talking about a different animal? Thanx Bill

[Bullnerd]

[quote=renegadespec1\";p=\"43188]

Originally Posted by Bullnerd\";p=\"43152":3syki42p]This would work .

[url="http://www.minibuggy.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2787

http://www.minibuggy.net/modules.php?na ... pic&t=2787[/url]

So this will work?
Where's the proto type? [/quote:3syki42p]

I'm working on a smaller model right now.

[standfast]

Man, I love that truggy that Tut built. *I would love to build something like that someday. *Maybe a 10 truggy!

Why did you get rid of it Tut?

[Desertkarts]

Originally Posted by TutTech\";p=\&quot

Well speaking of Samurai rear ends I built this truggy.
It made it all the way to the wall throught the big dunes
with only 2 wheel drive.

Being short wheel base it had pretty good traction in the
rear with the fuel tank, spare tire and me sitting a little farther
back.

Keep the wheel base short and that helps.

Also you can buy gear .... uhm lack of words here.
(coupleing)
You can buy the coupleing to mount your motor
in the back run it up to the coupleing with its own gearing
inside itself
and it then runs your driveline back to your rearend
running you in the correct direction you need to match the motor
makeing you go forward etc.

I can ask work for the info on it.
The coupleing bolts directly to your driveline.



Mine was made all with Samurai trannies, drivelines etc.
It had a 100 inch wheel base and i should have kept it smaller
actually.

Had over 24 inches of rear wheel travel and could go more
but was worried about the stock drivelines u joints.

Anyways here take a look.





Thanks hope this gives you some input and ideas.

Nice job Tut! That is a great looking project. Here is a picture of another one that caught my eye. They sure look like fun.