Shocks- To Air or not To Air

[bajaBrothers]

Ok Guys I am getting closer to ordering my shocks for the *R-16s we are building. I know most people are running Fox airs, but I've try mealso noticed certain people are running coilover and others internal bypass. *I haver a rudamentry understanding of shocks but here are some questions:
How well do the Fox airs dissipate heat? do they experience shock fade on long hard hot rides. Pretty much everone down here is running coil overs with external reservoirs for this reason. But I would rather not go that route.
I also like the ability to tune then myself without having to run new springs etc..
Anyway lets see what you have to say.
Thanks

[Gene]

It all depends on what you will really do with the car.

You can spend a ton of money on two shocks for each corner and have the ultimate adjustibility with bypasses. Plus the two shock combo will probably never overheat with your car.

You can buy Fox air shocks and mess with the pressure until you achieve a compromise that fits "today". I suppose Nitrogen is available there - right?

You can also get coil-over-air from FOX. I chose these for mine in part because I want springs - partly for how it looks but also for function. I think a combination of air and spring will allow me to tune suspension to an acceptable compromise covering a broader range of terrain. I don't expect to maintain high speeds for long enough periods to create heat issues.

[masterfabr]

THen there's the revolution shocks-internal bypass and external adjustment.Anyone have any experience /info about those?I know k-fab is using them on his new one and they are expensive.But when you add up the cost in time and parts to do a dual shock setup then I'm getting interested in them.Just don't know enuff about them to take the plunge(financially speaking) and make the buy.Help!!!!

[Bugpac]

just bild the suspension right and yo wont need dual shocks....your talking abot a 1000 lb car.....not a 6000 lb trophy truck....

[KWiKSand]

You might take a look at what Revenge says about 3/4 the way down this thread
http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/ind ... 1016&st=40

[bajaBrothers]

well I don't plan on riding much in the sand. I am looking for something that will withstand 4-6 hrs. of continous abuse through the desert. Adjustability is a must and yes we can get Nitrogen here, just need to get a valve setup for my little tank.

[TutTech]

Air shocks are fine and have internal adjustablility so you will be able to take them apart and adjust them.
So you can do that.
The only down fall is they dont work in the rough as good as a more fluid coil spring that can handle the whoops and what not.

Plus you get oil filled shocks with a coil and a reservoir for running 6 hours.
The extra reservoir keeps the shocks cool and from fadeing on you.
The airs.. I dont know as much about them but over heating seems to be the issue for you running the the desert in actual rough stuff not sand.

My opinion is the oil filled coil over with bypass if you want a bypass add another shock to the car and have adjustability right on the car and the extra shock to keep a single shock from over heating.
At your weight it is a little over kill but just go a simple 2.0 shock size.
Very nice and should do great.

I have about a 1700 pound car and run a 2.0 coil and a 2.5 bypass and can run 400 miles on that in 8 hours so you should be great with a single shock or atleast if you do go 2 shocks per wheel then stay 2.0's

Anyways shocks are one of those personal choices and the air will do great on a lighter car but running in the desert is where your going to get the extra heat and bumpy ride compared to a coil over.

Getting the right coil over is not that hard and you can run a single coil over with nitrogen, oil filled shock and be able to adjust it but you have to take it off the car.
But once you get it where you like it no worries your all set.

Coil over 2.0 with reservoir should be a great way to go.
But you do have the cost of the extra coil overs and reservoirs.

An air simpley goes on.. so up to you.


Anyways good luck.

[flyerrider]

I like coil-overs. *It's what I've always used and they've never had a problem. *If you use the spring rate calculator on Stay-a-way's website you can get the spring rates pretty close. *I am running a single 2.0x10" w/resis in the front and the same in the rear. *I have tabs in the rear for a 2.0x10" bypass which will be added shortly. *I think bypasses on the front is probably a little overkill for a car this light. *I think the 2.0 tripples are a little over $300 a piece so it's hard to not put them on at that price. *The Revos, on the other hand, are bad ass. *I'm planning on running their 5" on my truck when it comes time. * They're going to be around the same price as a conventional co/bypass setup per corner.

[masterfabr]

WHo can tell us more about the Revos?????

[K-fab]

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WHo can tell us more about the Revos?????

Other than Ronny, nobody on this site and few on the others. *I am hearing, on and off, more reports from people using them and so far I've not heard anything bad about them. *I have my fingers crossed.

Bajabro's - if you're planning on desert running, then definitely look into coil overs. *Whether you end up with a Fox, King or Revolution, you need to run coil overs. *The airs are great for short course and dunes, but once you start hammering on them, they'll fade and you won't be happy.