Buggy I saw at Silver Lake today. Got a ride too. Sweet!

[yoshi]

Originally Posted by whiplash

Why do you guys not like the Short? seems like a cool little car and it looks real good?

I actually think the short sandcar is one of the best looking mini's out there. I just never liked the lack of a B pillar in the design.......

Altho it looks like he is installing them now, This car looks bitchen.

[yoshi]

Originally Posted by Bugpac

Or a D and S car... It does look very very similar to that...

ummmm,..not even close, lol..

[masterfabr]

to all of those.

[Bugpac]

what are you thinking yoshi, you cant see any similarity's?

[sicksand]

Yoshi once said that he had a bad boy super short sand car,what ever happend with that Yoshi?Was it just a myth,I know you had it top secret but that has been a long time????

[yoshi]

Originally Posted by sicksand

Yoshi once said that he had a bad boy super short sand car,what ever happend with that Yoshi?Was it just a myth,I know you had it top secret but that has been a long time????

It's not at the top of my to do list just yet..

[sicksand]

Originally Posted by yoshi

I actually think the short sandcar is one of the best looking mini's out there. I just never liked the lack of a B pillar in the design.......

Altho it looks like he is installing them now, This car looks bitchen.

Yoshi what car is that green one

[yoshi]

Originally Posted by sicksand

Yoshi what car is that green one

short........

[Gene]

The thing about any of these cars is that pictures don't do them justice, good or bad. Once close enough to examine a car you can see how it is designed and built.

Suspension geometry, construction and attachment are the first thing to look at IMO. A car that lacks king pin inclination won't steer well. A front spindle not held in double shear at the lower arm is inherintly weaker - maybe ok for light duty sand work but not for big time fun. A-arm bushings without crush sleeves is bad design and easily corrected.

Frames with too little bracing help the car go fast but lack necessary protection for driver and passenger. A lack of gusseting and bracing reduces wieght but creates other problems for cars driven aggressively.

Shock angles and mounting ponts on front suspension like Short and Sick might look good but are not optimized for tuning. Rear travel on one of these cars is IMO false advertising and the CV angles on that rear end run at the edge of service and will click after very few hours.

The list goes on. That's why many of us prefer other designs or build our own or fix th issues listed above.

[stealthsandcars]

we just seen this car in action last saturday up at silver again, very nice for home built, but little ruff' round' the edges, i also like the short cars designs, simple, form follows function type, lightweight