Low Budget Race Car. Now Painted!

[TutTech]

Ok where to start.
Lets see I have been racing for a few years now and one of my older brothers has
always come to my races and supported me.
He had a partner and they tride to do a truck but got in over there heads etc.
Anyways they are selling the truck and have decided to do a small buggy.

The buggy needs to be very small and not cost a lot.
I have decided to sponsor my brother and will donate half the cost in parts, cage, setting
up the car etc. as my half.

I have a list of all the parts I have and a cost brakedown of what I think they are worth etc.
But the thing is the buggy needs to be less than 10,000 and we would like to spend only 8,000 dollars.


Ya I know but I think we can do it.
I believe I can build a small basic buggy that meets the Score rules to allow him to
race in the entry level buggy class or 9 class.

All parts are stock no after market parts allowed.
Simple. This actually helps us out with the cost. All stock parts. Perfect.
Size and length are restricted. The overall width also.
So the car will be a mini.
Cool.

He will be racing at MORE with us so he can share parts and pits with me and my other
brother so thats cool.

Ok so I will be building a small mini buggy with the exact rules to allow it into desert racing
tech and safety.
Ok I can do that.

So I think we are off to a good start.
Here is what I have so far.

Frame for metal, welding wire, etc.
Motor 1,600cc single carb motor
Trannsmission I have add super diff.
4 rims (must be stock steel rims 15x5) * * * * * *
Tabs, for lights shocks etc.
Tie rods, front arms, steering box etc.
Front beam *
Rear Torsion housing *custom made.
Lights, rear amber, rear brakes, 2 front lights for now.
Steering wheel and shaft
Custom made steering shaft and u joints
Stock pedals for brakes and gas pedal.
Cnc clutch slave cylinder
Steel floor and steel skid plate
Rear torsion bars
Shifter
Wiring
Bushings, fuel lines, filters, small vw parts etc.
Rear trailing arms





Ok so like I said this is what I have so far and will offer up to him as a sponsor
After that he will have to finish it.
This is what he will need to finish it.



Needed:
Aluminum body.
Seat Belts
Window nets
Seats (empi race trims)
4 new Drum brake
Braded brake lines
Braded clutch line
Safety fuel cell and gas filler kneck
2 front fox shocks
2 rear fox shocks
Tabs, Shock mount tabs etc.
Battery
Weld in battery tray,
Tranny brackets
Fire ext. first aid kit
Weld in shifter box
Stock shifter and coupler
New clutch pressure plate etc.
New alternator
New coil bosh blue
Tires
New bearings for rear arms





So this only brings us to less than 10,000
We still have some money to spare to get exactly that spare parts and things
we forgot on this list.

So I think it can be done.
A mini buggy that meets Score Rules and Safety but is small and fun to play with for a
cheap price.




Any input or feedback on this idea would be appreciated as I do value all of your input.

I will be starting this very soon.
If all goes well he will be racing it for the Cancer Charity event this October if I have anything
to say about it he will be racing it way before then.



Thanks for any input etc and I will update this as soon as the final details are worked out.

[PilotHawK]

I think this is an awesome idea. Overall the prices for parts seem very inexpensive. For example, fox air shocks will cost a minimum of 200 each for new. Please don't skimp of the safety equipment. I think you should figure at least 250 for both harnesses at a minimum. Sheet metal is cheaper than rhino plastic, but plastic won't need paint plus you might be able to pick up a used set off of ebay for cheap.

You didn't add any pats for a radiator or cooling. pulling your chain here.

Overall the pricing seems about 30-40% or more low. No matter how hard you try to plan everything out to the smallest detail you will always forget something.

I think planning to spend 8-9000 on a buggy is a nice target, but don't let your brother get sticker shock when the price comes in between 10-12000.

Go TEAM TUT!

[TutTech]

I agree with you 100%
The minute you come up with a price add and then add some more to the cost.
He is willing to spend up to 10,000 to race.
But I dont want him to set that as his goal or he will end up spending 12k
know what I mean?

Anyways those prices are my racers discount.
I have a great deal on prices for some things so those prices do come in
close.
I get full race seat belts for cheaper as I replace them just about every year if not
every other.
So any of my race stuff is cheaper as I go through it faster than normal guys.
The quote for my small fox shocks came in at 148 dollars as this is a stock class
you have to run stock size shocks... *

Anyways all that aside you always spend more than you think.
So I am setting him on a lower budget and we will see how close we come.

Maybe if we come in close to target I can offer these entry level race cars to the
public.
Everything includeing safety to start racing in the desert, tracks etc. for 10K maybe 12k?
I think some people may want to try it.

Its a very spec class and has been around in Score for a very long time.
So everyone is very evenly matched.
Its going to be a rough class and your going to get some bumps and bruises but it will be fun.
and you will be able to start racing for a pretty reasonable price.
So thats awesome.

Well we will keep adding on stuff as we think of it and I am sure I forgot atleast
10 items on that list.
Lets just hope those items are cheap.. *
And a lot of the stuff I can build and fabricate so no buying.
And the class is so spec that even brakes and parts are stock.
So again very cheap and easy.


Ok well thanks for the input very informative and accurate, thank you.

[sicksand]

Why not do a stadium lite(pilot type) buggy?It would be fast and be perfect for short course races so that his freinds can watch him throughout the hole race instead of just passing by?I think the smaller buggies are starting to come back in a big way,the redline is now racing with the pilots as well as the older draks,etc...There hasn't been anyone come up with anything that can pass the pilot and it is 20 years old,I see drakarts and custom buggies still getting beat by the old faithful pilot.

[TutTech]

I think its just because we dont have stadium or close courses around us?
I drive 30 minutes to my races in the desert thats one of the reasons I moved out
here to the desert.

Also he would have a one of a kind unique car that none of our parts, mine
or our other brothers car and parts would not work on his.
So this keeps him running parts we all have and we all 3 will use and be the same.

Parts is parts if you keep them the same this will keep down his overall start up
cost.
He can pit with our other brother and myself and have full use of every tool and
part he could need or use.

As for open desert racing thats just what we are into and what we like to do.
The adventure of it is awesome.

This next racing we are doing is 500 miles, how many short course racers or mini
buggies have had the chance to run their cars for 500 miles.
Not to many. So this is awesome for us.

And I agree the mini buggy or smaller cars are coming back.

Thanks for the input and advice.

[wyattboche]

What do you guys get when you win? Trophy money?

[TutTech]

Cash!
Trophy
And then bragging rights.




For each car that enters 100 dollars of the entry money goes into a purse
Then the winner usually gets anywhere from another 500 to 1000 dollars of
sponsors money.

So I have seen guys getting checks for around 3,000 for a single race.
15 to 20 cars plus 1000 sponsor money and you have around 3000 pay back
if you win.

Thats pretty cool.


I run the trophy class we dont put in the 100 per car
We just race for trophy only.

My two brothers race for money and payback plus trophy.


You also pick up sponsors yourself that help you with parts, wheels, tires, fuel etc.
You usually run their sticker on your car and if you win you receive parts etc
from them.

Its all pretty cool.

[renegadespec1]

Too bad your so far away ...we race for BEER AND 460's ARE UNDER 4 GRAND...OPPS EFFEN CAPS LOCK
there

[TutTech]

Now thats the kind of racing I am talking about!

I got it how about we set up a track away from people and a safe distance from homes, power pulls
etc.
We run say 3 laps.

Winner drinks a beer, or 1 shot, second drinks 2 beers, or 2 shots, 3rd drinks 3 beers or 3 shots etc and
then you set up your buggy for the next heat, wait about 15 minutes and race again.
Repeat after each 3 lap races.

You do this until you either dont have a car left or your all to drunk to drive.

*

Now that sounds like fun right there.


*disclaimer, you should never operate a motorized vehicle why under the influence.
These are professional drivers on a closed course.
All safety gear and precautions are taken to stay safe.
The operators of such vehicles understand the risk and are doing this for a study
that will aide in future drinking and driving results etc.
Do not try this at home or away from home or for that matter near anyone you might hurt.

[zunooo]

Nice disclaimer, Tut.