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Old 03-08-2008, 02:38 AM   #51 (permalink)

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Sorry for the wise crack. If you can get that thing to hook up you may need turning brakes to turn cause you front wheels may not be on the ground much. What year did the RX1 get FI or did it? I may have found one.
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RX1 never had EFI - they changed the name to Apex when they went EFI. *I believe they brought out the Apex in 06, but don't hold me to that... *

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Old 03-14-2008, 10:20 PM   #53 (permalink)

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Yes K-fab is right RX-1 were carbed and Apex is the next generation with EFI.

I need some help. *I stretched the frame and with the FL800 I left the bracing alone, but with this one it really looks too far between the cross bracing. *I think I need more bracing, I can either get rid of the Honda bracing and do all my own or add to the Honda. *I'm leaning towards going with the middle picture and just adding 3 braces to the Honda braces.

Honda only did cross braces but no upright braces and even gaps between cross bracing. *Most I see here have the uprights with cross braces like in my last picture. *I'm not questioning Honda but is uprights with cross braces stronger? *What is the criteria for distance between uprights?

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Old 03-14-2008, 10:25 PM   #54 (permalink)

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What about doing a short triangle in gap? *Run one tube vertically, say from where the rear angled tube is up (right there where that line in your table is and then angle one from the other to the top of that.

You'd only have to add two pieces on each side, wouldn't have to cut anything away and you maintain the triangulated structure.
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Old 03-14-2008, 10:34 PM   #55 (permalink)

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Like This? *One thing I need to be carefull with is the seat belt mounting bung, one reason to go through the original Honda bracing (a wider upsidown V if you will).

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Yea, something like that - but make the rear one vertical.

That should give you clearance for the belt mount - that's the bung that is visible there where the rear blue line and the stock frame brace come together, right?
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Isnt the bung going to be 6" to far forward after the stretch?
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K-fab,
Yes, the seatbelt bung is right there *I would have to move the stock Honda cross brace back to make room for the upright. *I'll look into that tomarrow.

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Nope, the seatbelt bung and the seat mount have the same relationship to each other as stock. *The bottom rail only moved back 1.5" in front of the seat mounting points, the rest 5" is in the engine bay. *I cut the cross braces free of the top rail to allow the full 6" where the large opening is now, thus I think I need to brace it better.

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Old 03-19-2008, 09:31 PM   #59 (permalink)

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Well the bracing jury is still out, so I decited to work on the engine mounting, I'm not at a loss for things to do .

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This weekend I have been able to devote some time to the Rage Pilot. *Between scratching my head and scratching my uh... [smilie=icon_bolt.gif] , I think I have finally got the engine and trans mounting worked out, and I still have some hair left for the next problem .

With the engine mounting points so high in the back I decited on making two 1" down tubes to carry them, hard mounted. *I needed to cut into the PTO mounting tube for trans clearance. *On the front of the engine I made removable mounts so I can remove the engine through the cockpit without taking off the cage.

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