Akpilot's next Project

[LEE1969GB]

[quote="Akpilot";p="56979"]Lee,
I remember those days as a kid, "Dad can WE build it ....,but why not? *I'm sure it'll work you just need to weld it. *NO, I don't want to grow up to be an engineer, I just want to build it".

Well my son was right, We have done it, A 2 seater pilot we "just welded some bits of tube in" What do you think?

[LEE1969GB]

OK I lied *This is called a pacer patriot, I think they took some styling ques from the pilot!
This uses a 24 hp kohler engine and the steering wheel swops over so you can drive from either side, I assume it has 2 sets of pedals.
I had one of these a few years ago but an older model, mine used polaris magnum quad engine, suspension and just about anything else they could use off the quad, It was underpowerd and not much ground clearance, It had A pilot type steering wheel and controls, It was great fun to have someone in the passenger seat scare the life out of him get it in a big slide in some mud and throw the steering wheel over to the passenger It was wide and low so not much chance of going over.
I wish I had kept it now and put my other 800 rotax engine in it [smilie=big_explode.gif]

[K-fab]

I have seen pix of a couple two seater pilots that were widened. *I believe they are on the [url=http://www.pilot-odyssey.com:11nekkm5]Pilot Odyssey Board[/url:11nekkm5] *Try a search for two seat pilot and see what comes up. *They were both pretty cool rides. *One I can't recall the specifics of, the other was built by a guy here in the States that works(ed?) with Honda's R&D department.

[Akpilot]

Odyknuck,
I think stretching the frame is no problem at all and it make perfect sence also as a bonus the cockpit much wider. *I use cromolly .058 wall for the inner sleeve and it's a snug fit, with the inner sleeve at least 3" in both sides you can adjust the whole frame before you weld it back together. *I Tig weld it together 1/4 the way around each weld, move to the next weld ect., while it's clamped to a welding table. *If you mig the frame I would preheat first to get parent material ready for wire. *When welding I like a 1/8" gap between the outer pipe so I get good penetration into the inner sleeve, also drill and spot weld before and aft on each weld. I have enclosed pictures of where I'm at right now. *If you want any other pictures from any angle just let me know. *
What are your plans for the transmission? Belt? Gas Tank? *I know you said the reason for stretching is not to cut and down turn the Y pipe, but I can't see you getting around this (I can try and get some close up's of the Y pipe on the FL800 if you want). *Even now It's real hard to stretch it past 4" Because of the plastics. *I thought I stretched it 4.5 but with further review it was only 4". *Past 4" the side plastic starts to run into the trailing arm mounting point and starts pushing it outward, I really need 5" so I still scratching what's left of my hair.

Lee,
Glad to see I was not the only one who drove their dad crazy. *I have not seen that buggy but I have seen the double pilot that K-fab is talking about. *If I remember correctly one was a "Photo Shop" picture and one was a real 2-seater that a guy had access to Honda Pilot parts bin and build one.

Wayne

[LEE1969GB]

That RX1 motor Opsled has for sale would make it go well and exhaust would not be as difficult as A 2 stroke, Could your budget stretch to that, Dont tell the wife

[plkracer]

That'll make it the fastest pilot around. Talk about wheel stands!

[Akpilot]

Lee,
Your close definately on the right track! Think just a little smaller, about 25% (Hint, Hint) . This weekend should determine if I can shoe horn it in and I'll get pics. I'm almost there with the stretching. *I think I'll tack it together, set the rear A-arm mounts and then we'll see how much I'll need in width.

Plkracer,
Yea it would be fast but probably wouldn't touch the Turbo 700 I had in it before 220HP @ 10PSI. *And now that the cat is out of the bag, I'm taking more heat than K-Fab gives Suzuki for turning to the 4-stroke side. *[smilie=icon_bolt.gif] *

Wayne

[plkracer]

Wow, would the wheels even hook up, let alone last a day of riding?

[LEE1969GB]

I am not that well up on snowmobiles, so is it a 750 v max or is there a later 3 cylinder 750 yamaha. What are you using for transmission, the pilot trans will not live with that will it, and those RPM transmissions are not cheap, The snowmobile transmission?
Come on then lets see it

[Akpilot]

Frame is comming together nicely IMO.

Wayne