Akpilot's next Project

[Odyknuck]

With the top "A" arm in the stock location the frame is wider than stock. Will the shock clear the top frame rail. Or are you extending the "A" arm? Even with my current long travel supension I don't think there will be enough clearence.

[Akpilot]

Odyknuck,

I don't forsee any problem with the shock as the top frame rail is where the shock mount is mounted and it will be moving out with it. What I do see as a problem and should be a small problem is still with the front A-arm mount. The A-arm will need a longer leg on the front to clear the frame upright that is next to it. In the first picture it shows the A-arm mounted and it will not move up or down as it will bind on that bar. The A-arm will need to look more like a traditional A-arm (but with the back leg a lot longer still).

I think this is what your talking about. Or are you talking about the shock to A-arm clearance since the leg will be longer?

Second picture shows how much the cross brace needed to be bent, imagine the brace straight and that's how much longer the front leg needs to be. But like in my previous post I will be looking at doing something like Cowboy Ray did with his Pilot and changing it from a modified 4 link to a true 5 link and only using the rear upper A-arm mount and a new upper drag link to mirror the stock drag link.

Hope this helps and not confuses

Wayne

[Odyknuck]

Do you have a pic of Cowboy Rays setup? Keep in mind the Long travel setup uses a shock that comes up past the top frame rail to a hoop so unless the bottom shock mount is pushed out you will not clear the top rail. On my LT Pilot the shock only clears by an Inch or so. I do understand about the diagonal tube being in the way. Are you planning on using a different (non Pilot)wheel hub assembly to Incorporate the 5 link setup.

[Odyknuck]

Ok I did a search and found Cowboy rays pilot. It would appear by going with the 5 link he has there is no need to be concerned with the front top "A" arm mount as it is not used.

[Akpilot]

Odyknuck,

I did not keep pictures of his set up, by chance could you post the reference you found his pilot. I've seen him on here before, I think Odypilots had him coment on one of his treads. Anyway I'd like to pick his brain on what he did on the rear end. And yes I would like to not use the stock rear knuckles and use a wheel bearing carrier kindof like Protodies wheel bearings, just need to work out the geometry, then I could use a 4 on 110 just like the front. I know the stock knuckles are hard to find!

Wayne

[Odyknuck]

Wayne, He is using the stock knuckle on his set up with the 5 link. I will be using the stock knucle on mine. Dave S. and I have modified ours to add a third bearing to make them less prone to damage that is typical during a bearing failure. Here is the thread link to Cowboy rays suspension: Lets discuss independent rear suspensions
BTW I do have enough room for the shock to clear the upper frame rail with the long travel setup.