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[Rorty]

Originally Posted by RickS.\";p=\&quot

I have to agree with Yoshi, When I saw Rorty's post last night I couldn't believe it.
He jumps right in and starts it up again? After all that was said in the first post?
Unbelievable.

I don't know what your problem is, but you've been spoiling for a fight in recent PMs. Yours are the ONLY negative PMs I've received EVER, so I'm at a bit of a loss.

I have received quite a number of supportive PMs backing my stance against the three miscreants mention previously and literally dozens of emails from people and the support for my comments about Yoshi have been overwhelming - and from some totally unexpected quarters too!

I'm not putting myself on a pedestal or championing any cause (I'd much rather this malaise were handled some other way), I'm just calling out the people who are quite obviously untrustworthy, underhand, lying, deceitful and unnecessary infiltrators who do nothing at all for the growth (other than fuelling rows) or benefit of this site.
They are spongers who take every opportunity to spam us with their self-indulgent sales patter about dubious or wholly non-existent vehicles and outrageously exaggerated and often untested performance claims.

What I proposed in my previous post is that the cause of the clashes (the three reprobates already mentioned) be banned from MBN rather than banning the well-intentioned members who stand up to their superfluous posting and behaviour.

What is "unbelievable" about this proposal – surely you can see it makes sense to remove the cause of the problem rather than the remedy. If the site continues to tolerate these sorts of pests, then its value as a credible source of information for buggy builders will suffer.

If any credible member thinks I've overstepped the mark or misrepresented them in any way, then I apologise and will desist immediately.

[renegadespec1]

[smilie=evilgrin.gif] * * * I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER FOR THIS to my freind tomarrow...But he knows why I am saying this...If your gonna tell a fib..... tell a fib if your gonna tell a big fat lie have at least some bull crap lies to back it up...there are some here who will(because of some reason that I don't understand) keep on pushing to hammer out the gods honest truth no matter what the cost...me I pick out the who flung poo and go with it...but some take it upon themselves to look out for the rest of us.....most don't need it...some are annoyed...others think that it's an attack....me......some times I'm annoyed but trust my freind the smart businessman...and keep my mouth shut ...cuz he is doing what he thinks is right...No matter what I or any body else has to say...This is still minibuggy...a group of extrordinary individules... who all should be commended...for our efforts/knowledge/willingness to say what needs to be said/and man enuoph to admit when we are wrong...I'll take off my shirt and put my hands in the flogging looops now

[hero_saku39]

Holy shit............this is still going on????

So your at a loss Rorty? *Let me help you.

For the most part you are addressing AMERICANS (the ones you always have something bad to say about). *You are proposing censorship. *Now you may like your government running your life for you over there but here we value our freedom of speech. *You don't like what someone is saying and you want to remove them? *Guess what ass hat, that's not how we do it here in "merica". *If people can still teach others about God then Yoshi can believe that a #1300 open frame car can reach 150 mph with only 180 hp. *You called Yoshi dishonest and lumped him together with some really dishonest people. *I have met Yoshi face to face. *I have bought him lunch. *I have followed him around every corner of his shop, learning along the way. *He is not a liar. *He is excitable, hyperactive, and redicoulously optimistic, but he is not a liar.

You want to save the world from Yoshi? *You do it with data/information (maybe speech), not censorship. *It's simple, all we have to do is stop all the personal offensives (note the name calling/ban-able offense above) and the problems are gone.

Sorry that's all the contribution I have for August.

[ultraman]

I don't like to get involved in pissing matches like this, but hero just expressed the very thoughts i am haveing,and did i damn good job i might add

[renegadespec1]

Hows bertzilla?
I agree yoshi should not have been lumped with the other 2 [smilie=icon_bolt.gif]

[Rorty]

Originally Posted by hero_saku39\";p=\&quot

For the most part you are addressing AMERICANS (the ones you always have something bad to say about).

*
Yee Gods! Where did that come from? I may have made some tongue-in-cheek remarks about differences in vocabulary etc., but never have I attacked Americans! Contrary to you accusation, I go out of my way to accommodate Americans using my plans by incorporating the imperial system of measurement in popular usage in the US. I also use as much US lingo as possible when on this forum in an attempt to blend in.
Oh hold on – I just read down to where you mention "merica". I assume you're paraphrasing my use of the moniker Mericans in another thread? That name is in international usage – just like you call Australians "Aussies". Do you really have to drag this all down to this pedantic level? What's next – "My Dad's bigger than yours"! – or should that be Pop.

Originally Posted by hero_saku39\";p=\&quot

You are proposing censorship. *Now you may like your government running your life for you over there but here we value our freedom of speech.

I can attest that Australian laws are much freer than those in the US!

Originally Posted by hero_saku39\";p=\&quot

You don't like what someone is saying and you want to remove them? *Guess what ass hat, that's not how we do it here in "merica".

Well actually the mods have exactly these powers and have already implemented them! And "ass hat" – now who's name-calling!

[hero_saku39]

Wow, you avoided the point quite well.

Here it is again. *banning someone for personal attacks (vendeta against Yoshi) and name calling (me calling you ass hat) is enforcing the rules. *banning someone for believing something silly without proper research is censorship.

"I can attest that Australian laws are much freer than those in the US!" *We can still have guns......

[yoshi]

Rorty called me 3 names this time, miscreant, sponger, reprobate, then say's i'm quite obviously untrustworthy, underhand, lying, deceitful and an unnecessary infiltrator.

He has called me by name in both post, he isn't denying he was referring to me, so this is a pretty cut and dry case to me who is being personally attacked..

[TutTech]

Please delete
Thanks

[hero_saku39]

Not an instigator but a damn good target!!!!!!!!