Front spindle hub and brake assembly

[bugbite]

after a lot of reading it seams that some people are using quad spindles for their mini buggies, others are saying that there are some durability issues with them.

Just wondering what everyones thoughts are on this issue, I'm wanting to build a buggy and I want front brakes. so what is the best way of going about this with out breaking the bank
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[nutz4sand]

If the buggy is "reasonably" close to the quads weight they may be OK. But you have to be reasonable. Especially if you go with a LOT more motor than the quad had and thus more speed=harder hits.

One prob is if you use Quad spindles you gotta build to suit them. Not a big deal.

If your build may be a bit more of a tank. VW spindles can be used and thus VW brakes. Not super $$ but not to light either.

Whats your target buggy weight? Motor etc?

If you can score Spindles off a DS650 or other large quad they are likely to be a lot stronger than off a 250 light racer.

[Gotted]

They are not made for the weight. You have to change the bearings and brake pads out a lot sooner because of the weight. The ATV spindles will save and will work for your build. I changed out the bearings when the brake pads were getting close to worn on my son’s buggy. They lasted two desert trips.

[nutz4sand]

The weight part is to be taken seriously.

I have seen a few guys built simple little buggies with big quad motors (Like Raptor 700 engines) and they do fine.

One thing to consider is on a quad the motor is in the middle of the frame and the rider is right above it. In a buggy the riders main weight is father back and the motors usually in the rear so the load on the spindles SHOULD be less. Hits will still be hard even though regualr weight will be less.

Again I would not recommend them for anything other than a light machine.

Somthing to consider. I have seen quads with 120 pound riders and the same kind of machine with 400 pounders on board.

Some of the newer quads are NOT LIGHT. Try lifting the front end on some of the new monsters! Might be a little tough finding a good deal on spindles off them but maybe not with a little shopping around.

Also it might be a good time to ask whats the budget for front brakes?

Protodie makes a pretty sweet set for a good price and if you watch his videos they test them VERY well! He can make the bolt pattern to suit your rims too. As long as its not crazy off the wall size. Maybe even then.

[The Kar Audio Guy]

Originally Posted by bugbite

after a lot of reading it seams that some people are using quad spindles for their mini buggies, others are saying that there are some durability issues with them.

Just wondering what everyones thoughts are on this issue, I'm wanting to build a buggy and I want front brakes. so what is the best way of going about this with out breaking the bank
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get a hold of Doug Heim, he made some nice front spindles for me at a great price!

[bugbite]

well I have the cheetah buggy plans, so it'll either be that or if jody gets his plans I might go with that. so in either case 800-900lb ish by the time it's done, so prob full wet with me in it at least 1100, or at least that's what I'm guessing maybe more just don't know. Um, well 600-1000 cc bike motor, or a sled motor if i find a deal on one with electric start.
and nutz I litke the idea of ones off a big quad, I would think that they would take it without too much trouble. to say the least i really like the protodie stuff but at at $1100 for the whole front a bit more then I want to spend, the thread should be more appropriately named
"Front spindle, hub, and brake assembly"
but I was tired and not completely thinking it though

front brake budget, hmm... well not too high but enough to get descent set of front brakes, I would like to keep the whole project to 4500 -5000 max being as now I'm kinda a poor 17 year old kid, I would like to have the project done by the time I'm 20. so it'll be kinda a long term project, and money will go toward the buggy as it comes to me.
just with my dad would have a little more interest in this project idea, though he's got a 220v mig welder at work that he said I could use, so that helps

either way thanks all for the feedback, it is appreciated
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[nutz4sand]

The Cheetah is supposed to be really light. If you can make the geometery work with them good quad spindles should be fine. Have to do a lil homework on the spindles you look at and cross them to the frame mounts and steering setup.

As for Jodies I am thinking you mena Jodies Protodie plans? Or something else?

[Mopar]

I say just run some aftermarket Rhino spindles, you can drill them out for heims and they are built for a fairly heavy machine....

[bugbite]

hmm interesting idea mopar, could you give me an idea as to ware to find them, and yes nutz it would be the protodie plans, little different look but I like it um can somebody tell me ware to find some tubing weight table or something then I can tell you guys about what the cheetah frame weighs, though I'm not completely shure what the rest will weigh
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[bugbite]

oh just notised thanks to whoever changed the name