Obama and business owners. Who gets fired first?

[bdkw1]

Originally Posted by greasemnky

Because whats the point of investing your dollars, if they'll just be taken away?

Look for the flood of money leaving the US.

[N8ball]

Originally Posted by bdkw1

Look for the flood of money leaving the US.

I only looked for a minute, and I couldn't find the info I was looking for. Either way, I am sure we have been importing way more than we export for many years now. Especially when it comes to energy. One thing we have exported more than imported- JOBS. So look to the past when you start looking for the flood of money leaving.

[nutz4sand]

Thats the problem I see too. If they do not force imports and exports to be fair trade (NAFTA and all those who came up with it should be held "accountable") Then we will never have jobs here again to cover the people living here and I do not care how much bailout goes where. If there are no jobs people are NOT gonna be able to pay bills. Period.

Those who moved these jobs overseas should be taxed to the gills to cover people who lost thier jobs due to greedy executives. Shopped jobs overseas for more profits but no price reductions. B.S! Obama said he would put the hurt to these people. I will believe it when I see it.

[N8ball]

Originally Posted by nutz4sand

Thats the problem I see too. If they do not force imports and exports to be fair trade (NAFTA and all those who came up with it should be held "accountable") Then we will never have jobs here again to cover the people living here and I do not care how much bailout goes where. If there are no jobs people are NOT gonna be able to pay bills. Period.

Those who moved these jobs overseas should be taxed to the gills to cover people who lost thier jobs due to greedy executives. Shopped jobs overseas for more profits but no price reductions. B.S! Obama said he would put the hurt to these people. I will believe it when I see it.

Let's hope he keeps his promise and sticks it to 'em. That makes more sense than giving corporations more tax breaks. ($4-5 billion $$ tax breaks just for the oil companies crock of shott razza frazza mumble grumble)

[MidMo]

Look into how much the oil companys pay in taxes, bot on the oil then the refined products and tell me who the real crooks are. The feds make more off of it than the oil companies. Anyone here own an oil stock? Where do you think your dividends come from. Bigger goverment will always equal more taxes.

[Dunepilot]

A Checklist Of Obama's Many Promises

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, November 10, 2008 4:20 PM PT

Few presidential candidates have made more specific promises to American voters than Barack Obama. They came so fast and furious in the latter part of the campaign, you'd be excused for not keeping up. So as a public service, we've put together a handy checklist of some of the biggest Obama promises — culled from his "Blueprint for Change," his campaign speeches and advertisements. Clip it. Save it. And see how he did in four years.
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Taxes

• Give a tax break to 95% of Americans.

• Restore Clinton-era tax rates on top income earners.

• "If you make under $250,000, you will not see your taxes increase by a single dime. Not your income taxes, not your payroll taxes, not your capital gains taxes. Nothing."

• Dramatically simplify tax filings so that millions of Americans will be able to do their taxes in less than five minutes.

• Give American businesses a $3,000 tax credit for every job they create in the U.S.

• Eliminate capital gains taxes for small business and startup companies.

• Eliminate income taxes for seniors making under $50,000.

• Expand the child and dependent care tax credit.

• Expand the earned income tax credit.

• Create a universal mortgage credit.

• Create a small business health tax credit.

• Provide a $500 "make work pay" tax credit to small businesses.

• Provide a $1,000 emergency energy rebate to families.

Energy

• Spend $15 billion a year on renewable sources of energy.

• Eliminate oil imports from the Middle East in 10 years.

• Increase fuel economy standards by 4% a year.

• Weatherize 1 million homes annually.

• Ensure that 10% of our electricity comes from renewable sources by 2012.

Environment

• Create 5 million green jobs.

• Implement a cap-and-trade program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

• Get 1 million plug-in hybrids on the road by 2015.

Labor

• Sign a fair pay restoration act, which would overturn the Supreme Court's pay discrimination ruling.

• Sign into law an employee free choice act — aka card check — to make it easier for unions to organize.

• Make employers offer seven paid sick days per year.

• Increase the minimum wage to $9.50 an hour by 2009.

National security

• Remove troops from Iraq by the summer of 2010.

• Cut spending on unproven missile defense systems.

• No more homeless veterans.

• Stop spending $10 billion a month in Iraq.

• Finish the fight against Osama bin Laden and the al-Qaida terrorists.

Social Security

• Work in a "bipartisan way to preserve Social Security for future generations."

• Impose a Social Security payroll tax on incomes above $250,000.

• Match 50% of retirement savings up to $1,000 for families earning less than $75,000.

Education

• Demand higher standards and more accountability from our teachers.

Spending

• Go through the budget, line by line, ending programs we don't need and making the ones we do need work better and cost less.

• Slash earmarks.

Health care

• Lower health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year.

• Let the uninsured get the same kind of health insurance that members of Congress get.

• Stop insurance companies from discriminating against those who are sick and need care the most.

• Spend $10 billion over five years on health care information technology.

[Glamisman]

My brother and I own and operate a multi-family housing complex and I too have seen the Obama stickers on cars and windows. One afternoon one of the residents asked me if I was voting for Mr. Obama and I said no and that for your own best interest you should not vote for him either and they asked me why. I told her (she is the complex snoop/walking gossip) when he raises my taxes based on my income I will do one simple thing, I will raise my rents to the complex. She was shocked that I would do something like that and that if she owned the complex she wouldn't do that. I told her that her thinking like that is exactly the reason why I own and you rent. She just puppy dogged me (tilted her head and opened her mouth) and walked off to pass the latest gossip. At her age, 65, she still doesn't get it, businesses don't pay taxes, all costs of operating that business are passed on to the customer.

[nutz4sand]

Are you only gonna raise the rents of those tennants with Obama stickers? lol I am kidding but hey.

[405dentech]

As a small business owner, I say xxxxx anyone that gets in the way of me making a legitimate living. xxxxx anyone that thinks they have a say about what I do or how I feed my kids. xxxxx any company, corporation or PRSEIDENT that thinks they can tell me what to do or how to take care of the latter. I personally say get a GOOD cpa and start figuring out what works as an actual tax write off.

[N8ball]

Originally Posted by 405dentech

As a small business owner, I say FUUUUUUCK anyone that gets in the way of me making a legitimate living. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK anyone that thinks they have a say about what I do or how I feed my kids. FUUUUUUUUUUUCK any company, corporation or PRSEIDENT that thinks they can tell me what to do or how to take care of the latter. I personally say get a GOOD cpa and start figuring out what works as an actual tax write off.

Daaaaaang! You so gangsta! Can I add EFF the po po?