What are we waiting for? Huge amounts of energy right here at home

[Gene]

Trojan,
I think we agree more than we disagree or we wouldn't be so civil!

Anyway, my other brother - the one who won two academy awards for scientific achievement (he is one of the principal inventors of Digital Theater Sound aka DTS) was commenting about how much solar panel it would take to run his hill side home in Malibu up the hill from Axel Rose, and he said it would take about $40,000 in panels to make it work. His home is about 2500 sq ft and he's married to a kook.

Anyway, we will eventually use something else. It's hardly oil raping, which has zero meaning. You can do better than throw a iddy biddy turd than that. It's utilizing earth's resources just like we do when we make solar panels, use petroleum to make lipstick for pigs and stuff like that.

Carry on!

[bdkw1]

YouTube - NozzleRage: Attack of the Pump

[Bullnerd]

AHAHA!!How scary is that,watching the price go up but not the gallons!

[jumpin jellybean]

Dangit here at work can't get you tube to work but have you guys seen the new chevy commercials where the pumps attack

[vidio1]

Originally Posted by Gene

Trojan,
I think we agree more than we disagree or we wouldn't be so civil!

Anyway, my other brother - the one who won two academy awards for scientific achievement (he is one of the principal inventors of Digital Theater Sound aka DTS) was commenting about how much solar panel it would take to run his hill side home in Malibu up the hill from Axel Rose, and he said it would take about $40,000 in panels to make it work. His home is about 2500 sq ft and he's married to a kook.

Anyway, we will eventually use something else. It's hardly oil raping, which has zero meaning. You can do better than throw a iddy biddy turd than that. It's utilizing earth's resources just like we do when we make solar panels, use petroleum to make lipstick for pigs and stuff like that.

Carry on!

I was talking to a co-worker building a new home that mentioned costs similar to those for a like size house. It immediately made very little sense to me, but crunching the numbers made even less.
An efficient 2500 sq ft home here has an average electric bill around $125 a month for total electric. Some very basic math dictates it would take a couple lifetimes for this to be beneficial, assuming it was maintenance free..........

[shinear]

sounds like we need to use both sides of the coin....drill, refine, save and work on alternatives for the future.....to do all this it requires a strong economy witch means oil and coal and a little atomic for the near future (20 to 25 years) by that time hopefully the smart guys.....who now build buggies, will have figured out how to work with other things like batteries and such for transportation...T Boone ain't wrong or far of with natural gas but that is finite as well just like oil. The whole world is in a false panic with the hoax of global warming but maybe it is the catalyst to get us workin' on dilithium crystals, cold fusion and such...beam me up scooter cause this place is going nuts.

Shine

The one thing we have to remember to do is if we try something and it does not work (IE ethanol), we need to pull the plug quickly and move on and not dwell on failure but look to the next success.

[PilotHawK]

I'm not sure whether or not you know it, but a huge percentage of the US already lives within 100 miles of a nuke plant*. So NIMBY is already a misnomer. We just need to expand the existing nuclear capabilities we already have. Nuclear energy produces fewer "wastes" than every other form of energy we have.

*Nuke plants

[masterfabr]

Yeah I got one at Wolfcreek Burlington,Ks about that far away.I'm all for using all we can to keep the fossil fuels for propelling our vehicles down the road while using solar/wind/nuke/whatever for our other needs. Notice on the map how the east 1/2 has enough sense to have the bulk of the plants?

[Jeorge]

Supporters say Texas is ideal for wind-power development, not just because it is windy. It also has sparsely populated land for wind farms, fast-growing cities and a friendly regulatory environment for developers.
Follow the link:lincenergy.us/

[Shrapnel]

Butanol could surpass ethanol if yields can be increased, It can be shipped via pipeline and has a higher energy value. Air Newzeland is test flying 747s on processed Jatropha seed oil with good results. I still like the idea of helium 3 reactors, Mining the moon for it is a bit of a buzzkill though.