Obama wasting no time to attack guns

[flyerrider]

Simple solution: build your guns. The government can't take what they don't know about. The only real issue is concealed carry violations turn from a Misdemeanor to a Felony for unregistered firearms.

People have been going on about gun control for 50 years. The simple fact of the matter is that while they might limit our mag capacity and make us run a bullet button on our assault weapons, no ATF agent is going to come pounding on your door to empty your safe. The day they do I'll be moving to Arizona. There's always a loop hole to the rules. It takes me 30 seconds to remove the BB from my AR and I keep my standard mag release button in pistol grip storage. My friend had to sell his .50 BMG and get a 510 DTC instead. Same ballistics, same kinetic energy, same projectile, just a .10" trimmed downed neck and a reshape on the casing. Gun laws are retarded. In 5 days from this very second I could have 3 or 4 fully automatic AK's in my arsenal for less than $1500 in parts and a harbor freight spot welder with all of it being 100% legally shipped to my house. Why don't I? Well I'm not a fan of prison as I consider myself to have a "purdy mowffff". The thing is though, if you want it, it's just a 45 minute online shopping session away. There's TONS of forum threads how to build them giving essentially step by step instructions. All you have to do is omit the steps to make it semi. Don't believe me?

Here, go build an AK:
https://www.apexgunparts.com/product...oducts_id/1209
Ak-Builder AK74 5.45 Flat
Arizona Response Systems, LLC. Notes. AK. Building an AK-74

Or my favorite, A HK33:
https://www.apexgunparts.com/product...roducts_id/875
HK93 Receiver Flat, HK33 Receiver Flat, RTG Gun Parts

[Chikin1974]

I'm a perdy mofo too. A few times at the bar a fight broke out and all I could yell was "not in the face!!"

[nutz4sand]

[quote=flyerrider;250137]Simple solution: build your guns. The government can't take what they don't know about. The only real issue is concealed carry violations turn from a Misdemeanor to a Felony for unregistered firearms.

People have been going on about gun control for 50 years. The simple fact of the matter is that while they might limit our mag capacity and make us run a bullet button on our assault weapons, no ATF agent is going to come pounding on your door to empty your safe. The day they do I'll be moving to Arizona. There's always a loop hole to the rules. It takes me 30 seconds to remove the BB from my AR and I keep my standard mag release button in pistol grip storage. My friend had to sell his .50 BMG and get a 510 DTC instead. Same ballistics, same kinetic energy, same projectile, just a .10" trimmed downed neck and a reshape on the casing. Gun laws are retarded. In 5 days from this very second I could have 3 or 4 fully automatic AK's in my arsenal for less than $1500 in parts and a harbor freight spot welder with all of it being 100% legally shipped to my house. Why don't I? Well I'm not a fan of prison as I consider myself to have a "purdy mowffff". The thing is though, if you want it, it's just a 45 minute online shopping session away. There's TONS of forum threads how to build them giving essentially step by step instructions. All you have to do is omit the steps to make it semi. Don't believe me?

No there NOT! Chicagos got all sorts of guns laws and look at how well its doing!

<---- for Chicagos gun laws which are indeed retarded... But working SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WELLLLLL!


I think more and more we NEED to adopt Switzerlands ideals and laws. Are they perfect? No but the parts I have heard they seem better so far. Maybe somone else knows better. But face it the guys in charge here don't have a clue or those that do have a clue have nothing but a personal agenda and not a "We the People" agenda.

Or just as a funny counterpoint. This is ALL just a scam. Those in power own the gun and ammo factories profits and they do this purposely to make people buy more guns so they make more money. Sadly it could be that. But likely/perhaps not.

I mean think about it. If they DID disarm the American public we would be overran by somebody almost overnight so the "fat cats" must know we are literally there best defense. The smarter ones would want us armed. The fact they may be making untold amounts of money while insuring thier own safety is just politics.

Or is it poliTICKS. They do after all just leach off the populaltion (host). They are an itch we cannot seem to scratch off. and unchecked they spread like fleas..... hmmm

[jersdunz]

I think that maybe there is a bit of a misunderstanding here. This is not the brady bill.. There is an attack on our guns no question, it is in motion right now there going to begin locking down all import export of foreign firearms and ammo. That is going to drive the cost up like a mudda f**ker Then the UN treaty States clearly that ALL SEMI AUTO weapons including .22's will be Illegal to posses by the individual. The UN treaty does state the is will not affect the individual right of the right to bear arms.. but only for the states Right to do so. Their smart in the tricky wordage.

Ok now think about history Hitler, Stalin First disarm.. then Starve.. then bondage.. We all know where they stand on guns, how many of you have seen the ads about how many of us can be on food stamps. Wonder why they would want to get everyone dependent on gov Paid food programs? Food Supply is the ultimate controller in any populous. Every fiber of my being hopes that I am wrong to believe these things I have heard but at the same time I know just ignoring the possibility is just Insanity ...

How could they possibly collect the guns you might wonder.



Fellow Americans, we must be bold and provide support for the honor of our Great Republic……….if you believe these activities are not happening then you must change your real understanding for the present course of our Great Nation!
When you consider the little effort to improve our economy and to bring jobs back to the many, then what was this administration tooling up for? Think about this fellow Americans! Here is another piece of an autocratic regime you are asked to support.
The sad fact is that so many of our fellow Americans really have not paid attention, do not have the experience, have not followed the history which leads those citizens into denial until it is too late to change. Now here is another event of their continual denial.
If this does not strike terror in your heart, you are illiterate of history and where dictatorial and/or marxist leadership can take you.
This was certainly done quiety. Can't you see the smirk on Obama's face to know that he has weasled another blow to our countryfrom within?

Homeland Security Graduates First Corps Of Obama’s Brown Shirts – Homeland Youth

Monday, October 15, 2012 18:51

October 7, 2012. Vicksburg. The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany. Regardless of their name, the Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth. Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s youth corps, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country.

On September 13, 2012, the Dept of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps youth, aka the Homeland Youth. Image courtesy of DHS.gov.

On September 13, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps first-responders. While the idea of having a volunteer force of tens of thousands of volunteers scattered across the country to aid in times of natural disasters sounds great, the details and timing of this new government army is somewhat curious, if not disturbing.

DHS raising an armed army

The first problem one finds with this ‘new army’ is the fact that they are mere children. Yes, 18 is generally the legal age a person can sign a contract, join the military or be tried as an adult. But ask any parent – an 18, 20 or even a 24 year-old is still a naïve, readily-influenced kid.

The second problem with this announcement and program is its timing. Over the past two years, President Obama has signed a number of Executive Orders suspending all civil and Constitutional rights and turning over management of an America under Martial Law to FEMA.Also in that time, domestic federal agencies under DHS, including FEMA, have ordered billions of rounds of ammunition as well as the corresponding firearms. Admittedly, these new weapons and ammunition aren’t to be used in some far-off war or to fight forest fires in California, but right here on the streets of America.

Strange Armored Fighting Vehicles

Individuals around the US have begun reporting the site of strange, new, heavily-armed FEMA fighting vehicles. What would a disaster relief agency like FEMA need with 2,500 brand new GLS armored fighting vehicles? According to the agency’s own mandate, as well as President Obama’s recent Executive Order, the answer is ‘population control’ during a time of Martial Law.

One set of images made available by Rense.com shows trailer after trailer carrying these new DHS and FEMA armored fighting vehicles, complete with machine gun slots. They’re labeled with the usual backward American flag and the title, ‘Homeland Security’. Below that and the DHS logo, it also reads, ‘Immigration & Customs Enforcement’. Joining those markings, the black vehicles with white lettering also display ‘POLICE/RESCUE’ on one side and ‘Special Response Team’ on the other.

DHS & FEMA armed fighting vehicles. Images courtesy of Rense.com.

FEMA Deputy Administrator Rich Serino gave the keynote address at the ‘Induction Ceremony’ for the inaugural class of FEMA Corps members. According to the DHS website, ‘Corps members assist with disaster preparedness, response, and recovery activities, providing support in areas ranging from working directly with disaster survivors to supporting disaster recovering centers to sharing valuable disaster preparedness and mitigation information with the public.’

Serino describes what the first FEMA Corps class has accomplished so far, as well as where they’ll be going next:

‘Yesterday, we welcomed 231 energetic members into the first ever FEMA Corps class. The members just finished off their first month of training with our partners at the Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS) and are one step closer to working in the field on disaster response and recovery. They will now head to FEMA’s Center for Domestic Preparedness to spend the next two weeks training in their FEMA position-specific roles. Once they complete both the CNCS and FEMA training, these 231 dedicated FEMA Corps members will be qualified to work in one of a variety of disaster related roles, ranging from Community Relations to Disaster Recovery Center support.’

A standing army

Unlike most local disaster response teams who are volunteers, training periodically and only showing up when there’s a disaster, the FEMA Corps will be a paid, full time, standing army of government youth. FEMA Deputy Administrator Sarino goes on to explain, ‘The new members, who range in age from 18-24 years old, will contribute to a dedicated, trained, and reliable disaster workforce by working full-time for ten months on federal disaster response and recovery efforts.’

In closing his announcement of the first graduating class of FEMA Corps Youth, Sarino describes his and the agency’s vision of the future, one where ‘FEMA Corps sets the foundation for a new generation of emergency managers’.

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DHS arms itself

As we detailed in the August 28 Whiteout Press article ‘History of DHS Ammunition Purchases’, federal emergency management agencies are looking more and more like a military army every day.

The federal government’s procurement website actually lists DHS’ requests for bids to supply it with ammunition and military weaponry. All of the orders listed in the above article, including the orders for hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition, are publicly available at http://www.fbo.gov/.

One look at a chart of DHS ammunition purchases over the past decade reveals a drastic spike in orders of bullets recently, totaling in the billions of rounds. Other charts available online show a similar drastic spike in the purchases of accompanying weaponry by the Department of Homeland Security.

What is the US federal government preparing for?And why does it feel it needs an army of brainwashed youth, millions of guns, thousands of armored fighting vehicles and literally billions of rounds of ammunition, just to provide relief to the American people during a natural disaster? Any historian will tell you it sounds more like the arming of the Hitler Youth than an army of first responders fighting forest fires and hurricanes.

2012-10-15 17:42:15

Homeland Security graduates first Corps of Homeland Youth

Why aren’t these kids working in New York & New Jersey?

[maybebuggy]

Originally Posted by jersdunz

Thats really the point we all need to know it is coming. And prepare acordingly .. i would bet we have a short time left. Of life as we have known it.

I don't want to put words in your mouth about what you mean, you clearly believe something that is not clear to me at lease. Please..... spell out what will happen in the next 4 years, what exactly will change as you see it?

For the record I own guns and make my own cans, so before you get all personal, Those trigger guards in the avatar, I designed ad had those machined, I figured I'd disclose that. I just don't see all the extreme changes people say or predict. Admittedly your views are WAY more fun then mine, from a human nature perspective I get it, it makes one feel more powerful to be all defiant in the face of some enemy even a nebulous enemy, even an internal one or an percieved one and one does not have one, it is pretty easy to invent actually. It is a human nature thing, and the main reason the middle east will ever change, pole have a need to belong to a group ad to belong to a group one has to adopt views. I get that component of the human thought process, I get why people often have views I don't share or more specifically, I don't even see. Which is fine, maybe my views or perceptions are wrong! I know I read that DHS thing above ad have a COMPLETELY different take away from it for example. The thing is, no one is ever specific when talking about all the scary change upon America. I would love for someone to be specific. and I mean specific.

What will this country be like in 4 years? Be specific. Want me to be specific? It will be the exact same with similar changes in both directions to what gun laws have been for 30 years. Factor out the housing 10 boom and unemployment was always this high. This is actually thee new normal. Knowledge work requires fewer people. The world has billions of people who make stuff for cheaper than it can be made here. Companies are not responsible to hire people, companies are responsible to shareholders. Infact NOT hiring people is a really big goal, and I am in a big financial services company, fairly high up there, I see how thee sausage is made.

Here is my recap prediction for 4 years...
*No significant changes in gun laws
*Unemployment tick just at 7%
*GOP will get more extreme and will thus loos another 4 years
*Dems will have another dude who thinks they can legislate fixes to the economy and equality, which you cant
*My medical premiums will keep going up, medicine is a business after all
*Medical Insurance companies will post record profits
*Corporations will have tons more cash and fewer employees and hire ore off shore, interesting how BIG business is republican though
*Stock prices will 18% higher than they are now
*People will predicting the end if the country as we used to know it

[Rat4020]

Its not what is going to Happen its when its Totally going to hit home and 65% of the folks in this country wearin blinders take them off and realize the bastards are slowly but surely doing it right under our noses. And we will all be like sheep going to slaughter. .. 700 mil takin from Medicare to ? its not my folks they have OK coverage no youth & Ashia am concerned for its us the 40 to 50ish and our kids.. And gun control is another parigraph or ten along with a lot of our other basic rights ...man I could rant on and on about this . but

[maybebuggy]

Ok yes so it is a slow process, as you say, I can definitely buy that argument. No doubt, is is slow and insidious how they chip away over time without you seeing it, filthy union backing godless liberals. Ok were aligned on that... so tell me what it will be like in 15 years. Specifically.

One question about what you said though, so you WANT the government to spend more on social medicine? That is exactly what medicare/medicade is, it is socialized medicine. I am confused, are you is government a good or bad actor here? Shouldn't the government be out of retirement and health care all together? Maybe just regulate private enterprise and this wold work because unlike the government, private enterprise has consumers interests?

Again I am not saying anyone is right or wrong, I just have trouble following the hell to hand basket thing, I look for specifics, I never seem to find them. Feels like a feel good time of rally thing more than anything, with the "they", and "take away" and "those people" and "they hate America" type of tag lines wrapped up in old glory. I am just looking for specifics to pin down a position as opposed to the vague general we need to resist and take up arms because change is upon us. When I ask what change I get answers like "the change the government is pushing".

I just don't feel like that is an answer, and no one owes me one, I am however looking for specifics that surly exist exist is all.

I got this guy at work who says with his lip turned up like Evlis "Obama hats America" when I ask how exactly and specifically, he can't answer. Generalities are more dangerous than most other things, it leads to mob mentality. I find it interesting that many people take positions for no reason other than emotion. I am talking about thee guy at work, not you all. You all clearly have specifics.

Some specific prediction of how this great country will change for the worse in 15 years. And you may indeed be correct. Have conviction and lay it out though. Me prediction, pretty much the same, no statistically significant changes at least barring natural events like super volcano or asteroids.

[jersdunz]

I can't go into detail about what will happen, & when, up until this last failed election I for the most part had my blinders on. I am just a normal man working to get by and trying to instill respect and honor into my family. What I can tell you is the writing on the wall is too clear to ignore the steps being taken really can only lead to one place, and whether its in 6 months or 16 years the end destination is the same. We need to reset the switch and show some respect to the men who died forming this beautiful country and take action to regain what is intended to be and should be ours. This message is the clearest way I can think of to explain to you how I feel.

A New Declaration Of Independence: Impeach Obama Now - YouTube

[MC@ Performance Fab]

28 dead in dead in a elementary school shooting this morning, hope you guys are happy!!

[Rat4020]

Originally Posted by MC@ Performance Fab

28 dead in dead in a elementary school shooting this morning, hope you guys are happy!!

Think ya could of typed out somthing DUMMER? lots of punt ment you dumb Fu#ker