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http://www.minibuggy.net/forum All things suspension, wheel and tire talk for off-road buggies and sand rails en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:23:22 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/images/lustrous/misc/rss.jpg http://www.minibuggy.net/forum http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11995-making-my-own-hubs-axle-spindle.html Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:16:45 GMT Hello,

I'm looking for information on how to build my own hubs, axles, and spindles. Does anyone have any plans, or know of any that show how to make these parts? Has anyone been able to find any online resources that explain the design of these parts and how they fit together?

Thanks ]]> Bump http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11995-making-my-own-hubs-axle-spindle.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11980-want-build-mini-out-4x4-atv-any-body-done.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:20:15 GMT i am looking for some ideas on building a mini out of 4x4 atv parts. i would like it to be quick and still able to have the 4x4 ability. any ideas? i am looking for some ideas on building a mini out of 4x4 atv parts. i would like it to be quick and still able to have the 4x4 ability. any ideas? ]]> bmayer http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11980-want-build-mini-out-4x4-atv-any-body-done.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11971-spindle-design.html Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:01:26 GMT Just did a search and looked over a lot of pics of spindle designs and have a couple of questions: 1) Should the point where the tie-rod/steering... Just did a search and looked over a lot of pics of spindle designs and have a couple of questions:

1) Should the point where the tie-rod/steering arm attach at the spindle fall in line with the kingpin angle - or in other words should you be able to draw a straight line through all three: the upper spindle mounting point, stearing arm mounting point, and lower spindle mounting point? It would seem having all three in line would reduce or eliminate bump-steer (or does it even make a difference and the only important points are the upper and lower a-arm pounting points at the spindle with proper kingpin inclination). My thinking is you want all three to more or less follow the same arc as they move up and down. :confused:

2) what is an idea camber number for playing in the dirt? I've heard 2-3* negative camber is good.

3) should the lower a arm spindle mounting point be in line with the stub axle? ]]> elmariachi http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11971-spindle-design.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11945-arms-plans.html Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:23:48 GMT I am looking for a simple a-arm plans or what ever you are wiling to tell me for a build i am doing. They dont need to be to intricete just needs to... I am looking for a simple a-arm plans or what ever you are wiling to tell me for a build i am doing. They dont need to be to intricete just needs to get th job done. ]]> mxtrackbuilder http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11945-arms-plans.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11930-need-micro-stub-atv-stub-930-cv.html Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:57:39 GMT I am building a 4WD buggy using ATV/UTV knuckles/uprights (have not decided on which ones, probably Kaw Brute Force or Yam Grizzly or Rhino) but want... I am building a 4WD buggy using ATV/UTV knuckles/uprights (have not decided on which ones, probably Kaw Brute Force or Yam Grizzly or Rhino) but want to use 930 CVs (I intend to use all lightweight ATV/UTV hub/brakes/wheels.) Does anyone make a micro stub that fits ANY ATV/UTV knuckle and has a 930 CV hub on the other end? If not, has anyone made a couple of those, for which ATV? How did you do it; how did they turn out; did they hold up? Thanks. (my first post) ]]> Wayneski http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11930-need-micro-stub-atv-stub-930-cv.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11928-fox-shock-pressure-what-p-s-i.html Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:21:31 GMT Ok first does anyone know what pressure honda pilot runs in the shocks....front and rear... Here is why Im asking! I am working on a some sand... Ok first does anyone know what pressure honda pilot runs in the shocks....front and rear...

Here is why Im asking!

I am working on a some sand car suspension and need to know what pressure I should run in the shocks. So, my sand car is a little heavyer than a Pilot, My car is around 950pounds. But ..... I want to get a BALL PARK figure so I can call Doug hiem to get shocks...

rear weight is 300 pounds
front is 550 pounds
TOTAL CAR WEIGHT IS 850


Thanks [smilie=bs_help.gif] ]]> Chikin1974 http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11928-fox-shock-pressure-what-p-s-i.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11927-tires-brazil.html Sat, 07 Nov 2009 02:17:04 GMT I found this website while I was checking out other country’s "off-road" websites.

SE FOSSE FÁCIL QUALQUER UM CHEGAVA.

It is a tire dealer near Sao Paulo, Brazil, selling "genius tyres"

Some tread patterns that I haven’t seen before, some may catch your eye.

The pdf download is the small catalog icon in the bottom left of the page, its too big to post here

I was a banner advert on a Brazilian 4x4 website,

Gaiola estilo DAKAR - Página 2 - Forum 4x4 Brasil - Maior Forum Brasileiro de Veiculos Off-Road.

then used google “translate” to read it,

Google Translate

some interesting stuff on here ]]> XRH348 http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11927-tires-brazil.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11921-anyone-pacific-nw-know-good-shop-tht-dynos-shocks.html Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:13:07 GMT I'm on Western Washington University's Baja SAE team, and for the last few years, we have been using Elka shocks, and while they have worked great, we have found their customer service to be less than stellar, and we need to find someone who can do a preliminary test and tune of our shocks. In addition, we are transitioning away from the Elkas, and I am wondering what manufacturers some of you would recommend. We would like to stick with coilovers, and I am presently looking at offerings from Custom Axis Shocks and Works Performance.

Here is a picture of the last car to use Elkas at Baja SAE Oregon 2009:
]]> k.rollin http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11921-anyone-pacific-nw-know-good-shop-tht-dynos-shocks.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11912-atv-spindle-ball-joints.html Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:28:58 GMT thx. thx. ]]> Snoopy http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11912-atv-spindle-ball-joints.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11910-front-arm-angle.html Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:00:12 GMT Just wondering what a good angle to have the front arms leaning back so the car rolls over the bumps best? I have 27x9x12 AMS front dune tires. I... Just wondering what a good angle to have the front arms leaning back so the car rolls over the bumps best? I have 27x9x12 AMS front dune tires. I checked my wifes and my atv and they are 10*. I'm thinking that should be close.
Any suggestions?


Aleck ]]> hookedonsand http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11910-front-arm-angle.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11906-making-hubs-axles-spindles-i-need-help.html Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:37:31 GMT Hello, Does anyone have information, or know where I can find information on how to go about building my own hubs, axles, and spindles? Are there... Hello,

Does anyone have information, or know where I can find information on how to go about building my own hubs, axles, and spindles? Are there plans for this sort of thing? Does anyone know of any web pages explaining how to build or design them?

Thanks ]]> Bump http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11906-making-hubs-axles-spindles-i-need-help.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11892-king-question.html Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:44:57 GMT In an effort to lower my ride height/axle angle I ran into a question. I jacked my drakart up and moved the pre-load collar up as high as it will go... In an effort to lower my ride height/axle angle I ran into a question. I jacked my drakart up and moved the pre-load collar up as high as it will go and still maintain contact with the top spring. This doesn't let me drop the car enough to get my CVs out of a bind. If I lower it to where I want it, the spring is loose halfway thu the wheel dropping. As it sits now, as low as I can get it my axle angle is 25*, measureing 13.25" at the bottom of the frame at full drop its 30* with 17.5" of ground clearence. This is way too much so the obvious question is do I just need a longer top spring to make contact with the collar? For now its as low as it will go and the CV is close to being in a bind(25*), so I was going to put limiting straps on. But that will take all of my negative travel out and leave me with the same amount of travel as ground clearance. ]]> nofearmxer http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11892-king-question.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11891-independent-swing-arm.html Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:49:06 GMT I'm new here and looking for a easy, cheap, and effective rear suspension set up. Could you point me in some direction or post some pics of your set ups? Thanks ]]> mrfreyguy http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11891-independent-swing-arm.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11869-best-street-suspension.html Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:36:14 GMT Me a a few friends plan on building a buggy made for the street. Kind of like a "Kart Buggy" if you will. It's gonna be a 2 seater with wide tires and a GSXR1000 motor. We're hoping to build it as a street machine that can also be used for a little mild offroading. There are any dunes here in Iowa so it won't be seeing any sand.

My question is what do you guys think is the best kind of suspension for a street machine like this? ]]> Horns http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11869-best-street-suspension.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11857-newb-caster-camber-questions.html Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:17:39 GMT I know a little about alignment angles due to my auto background but what caster and camber do you shoot for at ride height and I am stumped on what... I know a little about alignment angles due to my auto background but what caster and camber do you shoot for at ride height and I am stumped on what the goal is for camber change through travel my thoughts are to try to have the angles not change as much as possoble school me here. ]]> drognlin http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11857-newb-caster-camber-questions.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11853-rear-hub-bearing-carrier.html Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:01:46 GMT Would it be possible to use tapered roller bearings(like the bearings used for trailer hubs)to make a rear hub bearing carrier. Machine out a tube on... Would it be possible to use tapered roller bearings(like the bearings used for trailer hubs)to make a rear hub bearing carrier. Machine out a tube on each end to accept the cone of the bearings, and an area for a seal to be pressed in on each end. Drop in the bearings,Tighten up the axle nut to the proper torque and be good to go. Hope this makes sence! Would this work or not? ]]> Stomper http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11853-rear-hub-bearing-carrier.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11852-05-trx-450r-into-offroad-kart-mini-buggy.html Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:34:47 GMT I have an 05 trx 450r that I was trying to sell however the market is dead so I have decided to turn it into an off road kart or a mini buggy. Has... I have an 05 trx 450r that I was trying to sell however the market is dead so I have decided to turn it into an off road kart or a mini buggy. Has anyone done this or can anyone point me in the right direction for info. thanks ]]> bmayer http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11852-05-trx-450r-into-offroad-kart-mini-buggy.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11829-spindle-help.html Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:04:11 GMT Hey guys im planning on building a small buggy and for front rims/tires I got some from a stock Honda 400ex for free from a buddy. Spindles were the... Hey guys im planning on building a small buggy and for front rims/tires I got some from a stock Honda 400ex for free from a buddy. Spindles were the biggest headache for me on my last project, and this time around I'd like to get them done with first. Basically I need a set of strong front hubs and spindles for a reasonable price. I dont think I'll be putting on front disc brakes so a very simple setup would work. Any advice on how to go about doing this? I've read through tons of posts but just dont know where to start or how to do it for the best price. ]]> Duden89 http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11829-spindle-help.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11821-piranha-suspension-hyperthetical-question.html Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:46:45 GMT I would like to assume someone here would have used Fox Shocks for their Piranha Buggy. What I would like to know is if you decided to run the... I would like to assume someone here would have used Fox Shocks for their Piranha Buggy. What I would like to know is if you decided to run the standard front and rear ends what specific type of Fox Shocks (front and rear) did you use and why?

I have decided to go with the standard front and rear set ups (at this stage) even using the Edge Products suspension though I might change that if I can get some info from people who have tried Fox Shocks

Many thanks in advance ]]> nelson15 http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11821-piranha-suspension-hyperthetical-question.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11816-cv-joints-max-angularity.html Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:56:46 GMT Hey what is the max angularity that a CV joint can be run at reliably. . .without worrying about failure???

I know that different CV's will have different capabilities, so I'm just looking for a general ballpark idea here. . .I'm working on my frame and suspension design in CAD for a new buggy.

Thanks!!! ]]> atomicjoe23 http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11816-cv-joints-max-angularity.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11808-fox-shocks.html Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:42:28 GMT need to get foxshocks for my piranha can anyone tell me a good place and price to get them need to get foxshocks for my piranha can anyone tell me a good place and price to get them ]]> Thomasl http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11808-fox-shocks.html http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11802-want-some-opinions-5-link-vs-arm-vs-trailing-arm.html Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:56:13 GMT Starting to amass parts for a new project. I live here in So-Cal, so I'm looking to build an all purpose desert toy. It will have a VW type transmission with (most likely) a rotary motor. Heavy stuff compared to most buggies on this site. I am looking for input and opinions on rear suspension. What seems to work the best and why? I like the standard 3x3 arms, but I think that's mostly because it's what I know. Not to mention, they're pretty bulletproof. I'm open to most anything, but I'm hoping to get around 16" of travel. I am working on a theory. I see these monster sand guys with 20+" of travel, but they also weigh upwards of 3000lbs! I don't think you need that much travel if you don't have that much mass. I also don't think I am going to launch over road crossings (Dukes of Hazard Style!) to get on YouTube. [smilie=ecstatic.gi: ]]> kevin quesenberry http://www.minibuggy.net/forum/suspension-wheels-tires/11802-want-some-opinions-5-link-vs-arm-vs-trailing-arm.html