Radiator Mounting Location Issues

[bikelomen]

I cant even get my car to move but I like yoshi's old inputs like when you need some more support

Just kidding yoshi at least you strive to learn more

But I do like reading your battles with online members. Its very entertaining like a soap opera

[yoshi]

Tell you what, when someone gets burned because I mounted my radiator like so many other builders who've had no issues, you can say I told you so and sit and gloat about it. *I don't see it as a safety issue and neither do people that have been in this business for many many years......


And yes, I think the occupants are safe because I use high quality components and i've got my rails setup so the radiator is protected in a flip. *Someone said they saw someone get burned, I think I may have heard that one other time. *So, thousands and thousands of rails with high mounted radiators, how many have you seen, or recall stories about occupants that have been burned? *It's the best location for proper ventilation and proper cooling of the motor aside from the nose of the rail.......

[masterfabr]

LMAO I have not and will not knock his craftsmanship but the current subject of radiator placement is another story.

[Rorty]

Before this subject is deleted or is sent to the trash section, I just want to add another $.02. In all my years of racing, witnessing and participating in lots of roll-overs, I've never seen a radiator leak or burst. Perhaps that's because racers are a fanatical lot, or maybe the scrutineering picked up and potential problems early.

What I have seen is a 750 Suzuki throw a rod at high RPM which bent the headers, punched straight through the firewall, through the two layers of a poly seat and hit the driver an unmerciful thump in the back. Should we all move our engines to the side or up front?

A not so funny story: There was a racer whose radiator overflow hose kept "coming loose" at the lower end (it was supposed to be routed down to the bottom of the chassis). One time I happened to be in his pit when he came in and noticed the little rubber hose hanging down across his chest. When quizzed about it he admitted he would pull the hose out and tucking it under one of the shoulder straps. He was running a highly tuned and expensive CR500 motor and the first sign of steam was his signal to kill the engine and save his investment! Who was this unmasked man? The president of TORC (immediately prior to me being president)!

[masterfabr]

As I said I didn't want to start an arguement but the thinking here is getting ridiculous and a little illogical.Put your radiator wherever you want to.All I said was that I think putting as radiator that close is begging for trouble.I do not believe that you can make a *logical case for the safety of doing so.The example of the thrown rod and the idiot that tucked the overflow line into his harness is irrelevant.

[yoshi]

Originally Posted by masterfabr\";p=\&quot

The example of the thrown rod and the idiot that tucked the overflow line into his harness is irrelevant.

Why is that irrelevant, I can honestly say i've heard, and seen more, pistons that went though the motor, into the driver compartment, and actually saw a piston that went through a guys arm, than i've seen or heard of radiators causing burns to people. *My buddy had a piston blow through the block, through his firewall, through his passenger seat, through the rear seat, and land in the trunk. (I actually saw that in person) *So, it appears to me that the chances of a piston doing damage to your person is greater than hot radiator fluid doing so, and in that case, since your so much about safety, what precautions have you taken to protect yourself from something that happens more than radiator burns?

[bikelomen]

[masterfabr]

[quote=yoshi\";p=\"32554]

Originally Posted by "masterfabr\";p=\"32550":1mxcbv1w

The example of the thrown rod and the idiot that tucked the overflow line into his harness is irrelevant.

Why is that irrelevant, I can honestly say i've heard, and seen more, pistons that went though the motor, into the driver compartment, and actually saw a piston that went through a guys arm, than i've seen or heard of radiators causing burns to people. *My buddy had a piston blow through the block, through his firewall, through his passenger seat, through the rear seat, and land in the trunk. (I actually saw that in person) *So, it appears to me that the chances of a piston doing damage to your person is greater than hot radiator fluid doing so, and in that case, since your so much about safety, what precautions have you taken to protect yourself from something that happens more than radiator burns?[/quote:1mxcbv1w] Nice fairy tale.You really expect anyone to believe that? [smilie=rolleyes.gif] BTWIf you took the time to look you would see a FIREWALL in mine.What you got?

[K-fab]

1986
Yamaha FZ750 FACTORY road racer. *Jimmy Fillice was the rider.

Daytona, Pocono & Sears Point they lost the little end on the rod in at least one cylinder during practice and/or a race. *Instant window for the radiator, transmission cases and jug. *It was amazing - perfect window thru the whole block *which would dump all the fluid onto the rear tire. *I believe it put him down at Pocono in the race and it happened in practice at Sears. *Scared the snot out of him.

The factory rods had a defect and after practice at Sears, Jimmy refused to ride the bikes again until they put in Carillo rods. *We sold Factory Yamaha a set! *

[yoshi]

[quote=masterfabr\";p=\"32560][quote="yoshi\";p=\"32554":31n3rlpi]

Originally Posted by "masterfabr\";p=\"32550":31n3rlpi

The example of the thrown rod and the idiot that tucked the overflow line into his harness is irrelevant.

Why is that irrelevant, I can honestly say i've heard, and seen more, pistons that went though the motor, into the driver compartment, and actually saw a piston that went through a guys arm, than i've seen or heard of radiators causing burns to people. *My buddy had a piston blow through the block, through his firewall, through his passenger seat, through the rear seat, and land in the trunk. (I actually saw that in person) *So, it appears to me that the chances of a piston doing damage to your person is greater than hot radiator fluid doing so, and in that case, since your so much about safety, what precautions have you taken to protect yourself from something that happens more than radiator burns?[/quote:31n3rlpi] Nice fairy tale.You really expect anyone to believe that? [smilie=rolleyes.gif] BTWIf you took the time to look you would see a FIREWALL in mine.What you got?[/quote:31n3rlpi]

I gave facts, you must have a pretty thick firewall cause a piston will push right through any sheet metal you have. *I assume your fire wall is around 1/2" thick to be strong, correct?