Power Steering.... Any one done it

[yoshi]

Originally Posted by masterfabr\";p=\&quot

Damn you get pissy when you get pinned down. I never called you a liar.NEVER.You admit you misquoted your numbers and what you just posted is in line with what is commonly done for a reliable motor.So for a reliable motor *for output above approx 200 to the ground take or give a little a turbo is the way to go .I will admit that in the range of approx 200-250 crank hp is a gray area and probably better to stay N/A. IMO the motors you are currently having built for the intended purpose are best left N/A.I agree with you about the turbo being more complex and costly for those that can't fab their own let alone map the thing and most buyers will be better off staying N/A.Most will also be better off using a proven kit if they wish to turbo a busa.

I don't mind being called out on mistakes I make, or misinterpretations I have about anything in general, I am absolutely not above making a mistake, I make them all the time, just ask my wife. Some times I get lucky and just have to put my foot in my mouth, other times it cost me thousands of dollars. I'm bad with numbers in general, and when there are a bunch in my head, it's easy for me to say the wrong stuff. If the numbers I was quoting were not reasonable for the work I am having done, I fully understand you, or anyone else, calling me on it, and I have no problem with that. *Your exact words were "as far as correcting your info, I don't think so" *I took that as you calling me a liar, and even though some of my info has been incorrect, I corrected what I said, and I didn't like the way I was being made to sound which is that I was knowingly falsifying info. *I may have been wrong with some of what I said, but it was not intentional, and I corrected myself the second I knew otherwise...

[masterfabr]

FWIW,I don't really give a rats patoot about how much power they make(or mine make in comparison).Performance will depend on the weight,gearing and tuning abilities of the owner *to determine the final numbers.All I am wishing to know is if the added load of the alt/ps will kill the motor at idle under full alternator output and ps load while turning the wheel while stationary.This is all that I care about.As I said previously I seriously hope this works because I want to do the same. Not trying to be negative in the least.

[yoshi]

Sounds good, we tend to get off track with stuff, I think the power steering and alternator work, but we'll see what the dyno numbers say...




And i'm not trying to build drag rails. I build my rails for duning, and I need something reliable and kinda dummy proof. *The stock motor is a great unit, but for the weight of my rails, and the weight of some of the people driving them, I feel the motors will do good with the 75 more hp to the wheels over stock, so I am going with a reliable kit, that runs on pump gas. *Turbo's are more bang for the buck, but as we both have said, they are more finicky, and give the owner more possibilities to blow stuff up if they start tinkering with stuff like boost. *The setup i'm going with is more dummy proof for the public, which is my intended purpose..........

[bdkw1]

Originally Posted by plkracer\";p=\&quot

Why can the little bikes run 13.5 to one? Is that able with the smaller piston?

Yes, smaller piston=smaller combustion chamber=more efficient.

[masterfabr]

[quote=bdkw1\";p=\"61022]

Originally Posted by "plkracer\";p=\"60993":3jte2fts

Why can the little bikes run 13.5 to one? Is that able with the smaller piston?

Yes, smaller piston=smaller combustion chamber=more efficient.[/quote:3jte2fts]It is a factor but actually smaller is not so much the key as combustion chamber/piston crown shape/swirl charistics,flame front speed, etc.etc...

[masterfabr]

Originally Posted by yoshi\";p=\&quot

Sounds good, we tend to get off track with stuff, I think the power steering and alternator work, but we'll see what the dyno numbers say...




And i'm not trying to build drag rails. I build my rails for duning, and I need something reliable and kinda dummy proof. *The stock motor is a great unit, but for the weight of my rails, and the weight of some of the people driving them, I feel the motors will do good with the 75 more hp to the wheels over stock, so I am going with a reliable kit, that runs on pump gas. *Turbo's are more bang for the buck, but as we both have said, they are more finicky, and give the owner more possibilities to blow stuff up if they start tinkering with stuff like boost. *The setup i'm going with is more dummy proof for the public, which is my intended purpose..........

Dammit! It's no fun when we agree! The dummy proof part is very true.If I was to offer a turbo busas rail I would have all the adjustments fixed and tamperproof. No adjustable wastgates or blowoff valves.For your N/A stuff I'd hide the damn powercommander also. Most guys will just eff up the map.And then bitch about how it won't run for shiiit!