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Originally Posted by arrowhead
JPs statement on a shell seat is on the money  |
His statement IMO applies to ALL seats. Just because one organization doesn't allow something is not really a reason not to use something.Many times politics and money determine what is and is not allowed.
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Originally Posted by Hoodlum
Getting away from the question....Not asking about comfort or lumbar support...This is all driver preferance...He is asking if the seats cause your belts to loosen....
My thought is what if it does? It would only be a minimal amount...Just the amount the seat will flex....Rollovers ore more than not glancing blows so forces put on the body in these cases are not that extreme...Enough to hurt, but usually not damaging to the body....Most damage is done from nose impacts and head ons....
Your street car or trucks belts will give a little during a head on before they catch, and you rarely hear of injurys from the seat belts in these cases other than bruiseing...I think head ons in trucks and cars exhert far more energy than most of us will ever feel in these machines, and usually they only have one strap accross the chest, where we have 2...That cuts the force in half already....I think if that small amount of slack that is in the belt was a life threat,the auto industry would have corrected it by now considering the amount of testing they have done....
I understand as well the majority of posters on the forum are sand riders,and do encounter falling off in bowls and jumping dunes, but there is a large difference in landing on sand and landing on rock hard clay...Where we ride is very tough on the body....You feel every rock,washboard,and ripple....Not to mention landings are more violent due to 2 things...For one, the ground doesn't give under you like sand does, and 2,we are width restricted by trees....We are not at freedom to stretch one out and be able to put 20in of travel in a machine....Things as minor as taking 2 or 3 lbs of air out of the tires can make a difference in the way the ground feels to your body....Heck, I can feel a difference in 4 and 6 ply tires....Just something you deal with when you ride where the earth doesn't move below you.....
Hoodlum
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I agree completely.Personally I feel that OF Arrowhead is biased towards non suspension seats since he prefers them.Same with me and suspension seats.I've had both and will NOT have a poly or IMO worse yet an aluminum shell seat ever again offroad unless the rules forced me to. For my drag cars though the exact opposite applies.